Meatloaf?????????????

[Himself]

I have heard so many comments on the meatloaf. It is on the menu tonight.
Shall I order it?

Please Advise
Himself, currently on the VOLENDAM

[peaches from georgia]

Of course order it so you can taste it and report back to us. Just be sure to order another entree also so you can enjoy the meal you really wish to have. ;)

[gizmo]

ROTFLMAO :D

Someone reported it being served with a wine sauce and it was pretty bad.
If you go for it, order another entree as a backup. :rolleyes:

[Orcrone]

I noticed the meatloaf on the menu as a "comfort food" on our Maasdam cruise. However, I must have missed spam night.:o

[Roadwork]

I have heard so many comments on the meatloaf. It is on the menu tonight.
Shall I order it?

Please Advise
Himself, currently on the VOLENDAM
:rolleyes: Only if it is served with tomatoe sauce, mashed potatoes and peas.

[sail7seas]

:D Get it with the 'sauce on the side'. How kind of you to advise us the meatloaf is still 'alive and well' and still living on HAL ships. :)

[bepsf]

Sure! Order the meatloaf!
...then blame us when you go hungry 'cause you couldnt bear to finish it!:eek:

[DB469]

I am sorry guys but meatloaf on a cruise for dinner????? I am not putting down those who like or eat meatloaf as I make it from time to time for dinner myself, but never ever in any fine dining establishment or on any of my past 29 cruises have I seen meatloaf on a dinner menu!

To me that belongs on a luncheon menu or something you would get at the neighborhood diner (again not offending anybody its just my opinion), but they better have something more appetizing on the menu that evening than meatloaf.
Perhaps they also have chicken fingers and grilled cheese. LOL Sorry....but I am totally stunned to hear meatloaf on a dinner menu, thats all.....

[gizmo]

I am sorry guys but meatloaf on a cruise for dinner????? I am not putting down those who like or eat meatloaf as I make it from time to time for dinner myself, but never ever in any fine dining establishment or on any of my past 29 cruises have I seen meatloaf on a dinner menu!

To me that belongs on a luncheon menu or something you would get at the neighborhood diner (again not offending anybody its just my opinion), but they better have something more appetizing on the menu that evening than meatloaf.
Perhaps they also have chicken fingers and grilled cheese. LOL Sorry....but I am totally stunned to hear meatloaf on a dinner menu, thats all.....
Agree 100%.
Hang on to your hat, they also had chicken pot pie and fish and chips on recent cruises. Sounds like blue plate specials from the local diner.

[peaches from georgia]

I noticed the meatloaf on the menu as a "comfort food" on our Maasdam cruise.
I like it better when HAL lets me define my own 'comfort food'. For me it's rare prime rib, jumbo shrimp, and Alaskan crab legs, thank you very much. :D

[x lindsay x]

I noticed the meatloaf on the menu as a "comfort food" on our Maasdam cruise. However, I must have missed spam night.:o
I noticed this recently on the Zuiderdam. They had a "comfort food" entree every night for people who are the plain meat and potatoes type. I guess there must be some demand for it if they have dedicated an entree every night to it.

[JohnSax]

I have to laugh at some of the comments. Nothing wrong with meatloaf IF it is made properly. Most of what you get out is truly bad, but I have a killer recipe I got from my friend in Seattle, made with ground chuck and ground pork. Awesome--almost as good as filet!

[peaches from georgia]

.... I guess there must be some demand for it if they have dedicated an entree every night to it.
I think the demand for meat loaf and other comfort food comes from the bean counters who are dedicated to the bottom line.

[Orcrone]

I have to laugh at some of the comments. Nothing wrong with meatloaf IF it is made properly. Most of what you get out is truly bad, but I have a killer recipe I got from my friend in Seattle, made with ground chuck and ground pork. Awesome--almost as good as filet!Perhaps your friend in Seattle could run it around the corner to the folks at HAL.:rolleyes:

[sail7seas]

Perhaps your friend in Seattle could run it around the corner to the folks at HAL.:rolleyes:


:D :D Maybe they can serve it for lunch at their next Board of Director's Meeting. See how THEY feel about 'meatloaf on the menu.' :)

[Orcrone]

:D :D Maybe they can serve it for lunch at their next Board of Director's Meeting. See how THEY feel about 'meatloaf on the menu.' :)They'll probably decide that the meat is too expensive and request that the chef modify the recipe to include more bread crumbs.:eek:

[JohnSax]

Perhaps your friend in Seattle could run it around the corner to the folks at HAL.:rolleyes:
HA--not a bad idea, but I'm sure the bean counters over there would never approve it. The frozen stuff they probably serve is "just fine" as far as they're concerned. Like S7S said, let them eat it!

[tomc]

I saw it only once on my 10-day NE/C Rotterdam last month, and that was in the Lido. Did not see this or any other "comfort foods" on the dining room menu. As far as the bean counters go, if someone doesn't like it, or doesn't think it's appropriate, just don't order it; there are plenty other things on the menu.

[Orcrone]

I saw it only once on my 10-day NE/C Rotterdam last month, and that was in the Lido. Did not see this or any other "comfort foods" on the dining room menu. As far as the bean counters go, if someone doesn't like it, or doesn't think it's appropriate, just don't order it; there are plenty other things on the menu.Tom,

That's interesting. Every day on the DR menu they had one selection that was labelled "comfort food". I didn't check each day, but I think it was only available in the DR, and not the Lido.

I also think that people are just having fun with this. Obviously, if for some reason someone did not want Meatloaf there were about six other entrees available (I had the Hamburger Helper).:D

[tomc]

Do you think it was on the Rotterdam menu and I just didn't notice it?

[Orcrone]

Do you think it was on the Rotterdam menu and I just didn't notice it?You may have noticed it, but have forgotten it. The mind will do that when it experiences a horribly traumatic event.:eek:

I reread out last couple of posts. I didn't state that I was on the Maasdam, not the Rotterdam.

[tomc]

I figured it would be the same on all ships. Actually, I love meatloaf and the only reason I did not have it in the Lido that day is because I like beef stew more.

[JDee]

tomc, you are wasting your money on a cruise ship. Why not just check-in your local Holiday Inn with an adjacant Bob Evans?? Would save travel expense also...

Happy cruising....

[mmacdcc]

There are people who are really, really picky eaters, and who won't eat things they haven't tried before. I feel sorry for them, but they DO exist.

My nephew is like that. Going with him to a really good restaurant is an adventure, to say the least. He's likely to ask for a hamburger and fries even if it's not on the menu. And then expect it to be like one from MickyD's (and he's NOT a child, he's over 30)

My daughter is almost as bad (and I didn't raise her that way, for sure). Her chicken has to be plain, she doesn't take dressing on her salad, and her hamburgers only have ketchup -- no lettuce, tomato, onion, cheese, etc. Her pickiness runs more to healthy, well-prepared, organic, no heavy sauces, not fast food. She just likes things plain. But she'll try most anything, which is good.

I would think some of those things on the menu are to satisfy the fast food generation, many of whom wouldn't eat at all if they didn't get hamburgers, tacos, fries, pizza, etc. At least hopefully they know what meatloaf is. I suspect they may not have a clue what much of the other items are. :cool:

[Krazy Kruizers]

We are not meatloaf lovers and so we laughed when we saw it as an entree one night on the Statendam. Naturally neither of us ordered it. But I did keep track and it was offered only once in 21 days as an entree.

Since we didn't always eat lunch in the Lido I can not say whether it was ever offered there.

[Himself]

Having heard all your advice, I have reached the following decision. I will order either a grilled serloin or a griilled Chicken Breast.

When I have to order a second entree, that speaks volumes. I love meat loaf if it is made right.

We have "comfort food" every night. The other night it was turkey and was quite good. Last night it was quail---I'll make no comment.

Maybe I should just skip dinner. I walked over the RC Cathedral today and some local woman tried to hit me up for a buck for a candle. I said five extra minutes of prayer is better than a vigil light and she made a nasty remark about the size of my stomach. So, I think I will go walk a bit and build up an
appetite.
By the way some lady came up to me last night and said "You are 'HIMSELF'.
It is the first time I have ever been recognised since I came on these boards.
Amazing, isn't it? How did she know?

Himself

[saltydog28]

Are you wearing the hat that says 'HIMSELF' on it???

Thanks for the posts
Enjoy your cruise,
Pat.

[Himself]

I won't say what I was wearing except to say it was not green and I wore nothing that would say "HIMSELF."
I once had a green Irish style hat that said " tis HIMSELF" but since it is warm and that is corduroy, I choose not to bring it with me.
Himself

[sail7seas]

Thanks for posting. Enjoy your cruise.


If you find out how she knew it was you.....please let us know. :)

[gooselace]

There are people who are really, really picky eaters, and who won't eat things they haven't tried before.

I would think some of those things on the menu are to satisfy the fast food generation, many of whom wouldn't eat at all if they didn't get hamburgers, tacos, fries, pizza, etc. :cool:
It's not always the younger ones. On Alaskan cruise we were at a table of 8: Mon, DH and I; an older couple from the midwest, and a younger couple with a delightful 11 year old son from California. The food was wonderful, but on the last day, lunch in the dining room included some sort of chopped sirloin. The older woman leaned over to the boy and said "I'll bet you're glad to see something like a hamburger after all this fancy food" To which he politely replied, "Actually I'm having the salmon quenelles. I'm really going to miss this excellent cuisine."

I'll bet the couple would have been quite happy to see meat loaf on a dinner menu. They might have liked the salmon "loaf" too if they'd known.

[Vic The Parrot]

If someone says 'meatloaf' one more time, I'm gonna BARF!

[DB469]

Vic the Parrot,

I am with you all the way, meatloaf is well I want to be polite, but I will say its one of my disliked dishes, ewwww cheap and fast food I say, no offense others, its just my opinion I can't help myself.

[Vic The Parrot]

don't get me wrong, I like meatloaf. I just have to be 'in the mood' for it.

[DB469]

Me too Vic, but to be on a cruise I want to enjoy fine dining that doesn't contain any chopped beef, but I guess everybody needs to be happy, at least we have other things to choose from.

[tomc]

don't get me wrong, I like meatloaf. I just have to be 'in the mood' for it.

What do meatloaf and s*x have in common?

[Vic The Parrot]

LMAO!!



i'd respond, but I'm sure my comment would get me banned from this board!

[Vic The Parrot]

There's another meatloaf that should be on ALL HAL ships ......



Those who are my age will know what i'm talking about.....


:-D



"on a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses?"


Name that tune, and the 1st round is on me!

[gizmo]

There's another meatloaf that should be on ALL HAL ships ......



Those who are my age will know what i'm talking about.....

"on a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses?"


Name that tune, and the 1st round is on me!I will have a vodka gimlet.

From Meatloaf's Bat Out of Hell

"You Took the Words Right Out of My Mouth" - Hot Summer Night

[ryansmemom]

Now now, I might get flamed for this, but I'll take the risk. With all of the flack over the dreaded "meatloaf" on a high class menu, in the opinion of my late mother, the worst offender was beer of any sort.

Mother always felt that beer was the beverage of the lower classes and I was never able to change her mind. I told her it was the preferred beverage of Pharoahs, Kings and European princes, but she insisted that while may have been true in the past, beer was responsible for drunken brawls and domestic abuse today. She would not abide anyone drinking it in her presence.

Let me reiterate, this is my mother's opinion. Let me remind you she is deceased as of last March. I do find it amusing however, when I read this thread about "low class" meat loaf, to recall Mother's belief regarding beer and all of the previous discussions I have read about smuggling that paricular beverage on board our cruise ship.

Linda :D :D

[dakrewser]

Mother always felt that beer was the beverage of the lower classes and I was never able to change her mind. ... she insisted that beer was responsible for drunken brawls and domestic abuse. She would not abide anyone drinking it in her presence.
Linda :D :DAnd she was right, of course. THe other "no class" beverage is gin, or "mother's doom" as we call it. See William Hogarth's prints "Beer Alley and (http://www.litencyc.com/php/sworks.php?rec=true&UID=6398)Gin Lane (http://www.litencyc.com/php/sworks.php?rec=true&UID=6398)"

Prints here: Gin Lane (http://www.sfu.ca/~ccolliga/photogallery/Graphic%20Satire/Gin%20lane.jpg) Beer Alley (http://www.sfu.ca/~ccolliga/photogallery/Graphic%20Satire/Beer%20Alley.jpg)

:rolleyes: -dave

[gizmo]

I do find it amusing however, when I read this thread about "low class" meat loaf, to recall Mother's belief regarding beer and all of the previous discussions I have read about smuggling that paricular beverage on board our cruise ship.

Linda :D :D
I don't recall reading all those discussions about smuggling beer on board a Hal cruise ship, at least not on this board. Booze in general, yes, and I am sure beer was mentioned a couple of times, but I don't find this board to be full of beer smuggling threads.

There are plenty of comments on Meatloaf, since Meatloaf appears to be one of the current hot topics.

Comparing beer to meatloaf.

Beer was cheap at one time and probably the drink of choice by many of the "lower class" because of the cost.

Meatloaf is cheap and is still cheap.

[trubey]

Oh, every time I eat in Talliavant or Troisgros I always order beer with the meatloaf. I think it's very classy stuff!

Seriously, considering HAL's pricing policy -- dare I say 'punitive'? -- for alcoholic beverages on the ships, it's little wonder people 'smuggle' their own. I think $3 or $4 for a bottle of beer or $7 for a martini, let alone $60 for a mediocre Sancerre at dinner, is just plain not fair. $15 for a corkage fee is just short of nasty.

Lane

[bepsf]

Y'know, folks keep wondering why we slam HAL for the meatloaf...

I love meatloaf - I truly do. So I ordered the HAL meatloaf - gotta give it a try, right?

It was the foulest stuff i've had in years. Looked and tasted like the inside of a home-made Oscar Meyer hotdog or bologna.

If the meatloaf was yummy, i'd be all for it - but not this stuff. I'd rather have a Hamburger or a Club Sandwich from room service (which, incidentally is quite good - they even cut the crusts off for you just like Mom used to...)

[dakrewser]

Oh, every time I eat in Talliavant or Troisgros I always order beer with the meatloaf. I think it's very classy stuff!
Ah yes, the Pain de Viande avec glaçage de tomate accompanied by un boisson Belge de malt du cru premier. I always order that when I'm in Roanne...

:rolleyes: -dave

[obriendan]

Two days ago my wife asked, as she was about to prepare some hamburger for dinner, "What would like for dinner, spaghetti and meatballs or meatloaf?"

"Meatloaf!" I replied. I choose meatloaf so that I could have a meatloaf sandwich for lunch. And I had a beer with it!

Now if HAL would just get a good meatloaf recipe, I'd do the same on a cruise and have a tall, cool beer along with it!

[Nautical Wheeler]

My DH ordered the meatloaf on the Oosterdam last week but requested an end piece well done. This was because our DSIL who had it at an earlier seating described it as mushy. DH, who is a meatloaf lover, was pleased with his choice, although he was quick to add , it was not as good as mine.:)
These comfort food selections were on the menu most every night. Not for me......but for those who prefer.........why not?? Keep everyone happy!:D

[tomc]

requested an end piece well done.
Must. Not. Post. Obviously. Funny. Remark.
[good angel says, "I'm pleased with you.]
[bad angel says, "You wuss. Go ahead and make them laugh.]

[BillandKateC]

WE were on the Zuiderdam in Oct and 2 people at our table ordered the Meatloaf and both raved about it. Go Figure!!!

[tommy]

Hi Bill and Kate, I had the Meatloaf It was AWFUL.And for those who say beer is of low class .Apparently Holland doesnt think so they want over 4 bucks a can or bottle. TOM

[GayleArc]

Just back from the Rotterdam yesterday. Yes they did have meat loaf on the
menu, but it was in a new catagory called Comfort Food that they had every
night. They did not take anything away but just added this catagory and also
one called Pasta Pasta, which was a different pasta dish every night. Also
added a Ceasar Salad every night. We found the menus in the DR to be much
improved and the service also.

[tomc]

I don't recall a "Comfort Food" category on the Oct 20-30 sailing, so it appears to be brand new, as is the Pasta Pasta selection. I do remember having Caesar Salad, but not as a regular offering; maybe once or twice. Sorry to hear your cruise is over.

[peaches from georgia]

Thank you so much for the new menu information, Gayle. I think these new options certainly reflect the appointment of the new Executive Chef in Seattle that was announced a few months ago.

We felt that 'salads' were one of the weakest nightly choices in the dining room and Caesar every night, rather than just on formal nights, is wonderful. Also 'Pasta Pasta'- another area that had much room for improvement! :p

Could you tell us more about Comfort Foods in addition to the meatloaf, please.

[sail7seas]

Welcome back, Gayle Arc. Hope you had a wonderful time on Rotterdam. Hopefully, you'll post a few comments?


Thank you for sharing about this new category on the dinner menus. This must be brand new as you are the first to be reporting it. That's great that we have the most current 'what is happening aboard'.

I'm DELIGHTED if they will start offering pasta as a choice each evening. Did you happen to note if whole wheat pasta was available or was it just the regular white?

Keeping my fingers crossed this is to be fleetwide and not just something Rotterdam is offering.

[Krazy Kruizers]

We didn't have any special section entiled "comfort foods" on recent cruise on the Statendam.

Nor was there a special pasta section.

Maybe we will see this on our cruise in January.

The meatloaf was listed under the entree section.

[the2ofus]

Was just looking at the menus from our Dec. 2001 Southern Carib. cruise on the Noordam. On most menus there was an item with a little hand symbol next to it which indicated "simple fare". This was fish and chips, turkey with gravy, pot roast (with a Dutch name), etc. No meatloaf, but definitely comfort food by another name.

Not sure I care about the pasta addition to the DR menu since that has been available at the pasta station on the Lido for lunch. But if it makes some folks happy and I still have plenty of seafood or meat dishes to choose from, I'm content.

[tomc]

I noticed that on our last trip, when we had three days of heavy seas, they had doggie bags near the elevators. I never did figure that one out.

[Melianne]

I really don't understand why anyone would want to list COMFORT FOOD as an item on a cruise ship menu. A cruise is a dream, an adventure, great fun. Comfort food?

I want comfort food (which I personally consider to be homemade Mac & Cheese) when: 1) I've had a bad day at work; 2) I've had a bad day at work and sat in a traffic jam for more than an hour on the way home; 3) I've had a bad day at work and sat in a trafic jam on the way home during which it started to sleet, then ice, then snow; 4) I've had a bad day at work and sat in a trafic jam on the way home during which it started to sleet, then ice, then snow, and when I get home I have to shovel the driveway because the snowblower won't start.

Those are some of the things that happen that make me want comfort food.

Oh, wait! Those are the reasons I moved from Michigan to Savannah, GA!

Sorry.

[RuthC]

I tell ya, when I'm looking for "comfort" it isn't food I'm looking for.
Oh, sure, maybe some whipped cream is involved, but the dining room isn't.
HAL: don't monkey around too much with our menu.

[Nautical Wheeler]

Must. Not. Post. Obviously. Funny. Remark.
[good angel says, "I'm pleased with you.]
[bad angel says, "You wuss. Go ahead and make them laugh.]

Tom C.

A meatloaf does have 2 ends. And if they throw it in a skillet and cook it a little longer it does not come out mushy. "End Cut, well done" does not have to apply only to prime rib. It worked.........DH liked it!! Laugh all you want!:D

[dakrewser]

I want comfort food (which I personally consider to be homemade Mac & Cheese) when: 1) I've had a bad day at work; 2) I've had a bad day at work and sat in a traffic jam for more than an hour on the way home; 3) I've had a bad day at work and sat in a trafic jam on the way home during which it started to sleet, then ice, then snow; 4) I've had a bad day at work and sat in a trafic jam on the way home during which it started to sleet, then ice, then snow, and when I get home I have to shovel the driveway because the snowblower won't start.
I'm with you. Cruising doesn't make me desire "diner food"...

:) -dave

[dakrewser]

I tell ya, when I'm looking for "comfort" it isn't food I'm looking for.

Suppose they poured chocolate sauce on the meatloaf, Ruth - with a side of whipped cream?

:) -dave

[tomc]

Nautical Wheeler "End Cut, well done" does not have to apply only to prime rib. You bet it doesn't, and that's what I was getting at.

;)

signed, Naughty Wheeler

[JDee]

The meatloaf & Pasta Pasta (otherwise known as Spaghetti-o's) are for the dental impaired.....

[sail7seas]

The meatloaf & Pasta Pasta (otherwise known as Spaghetti-o's) are for the dental impaired.....I guess we're hoping for pasta dishes a little more interesting than spaghetti-o's. :eek: Nothing wrong with my 'choppers'... just that I really enjoy a good dish of pasta. :)

[tommy]

The meatloaf & Pasta Pasta (otherwise known as Spaghetti-o's) are for the dental impaired.....
JDee, This is Holland. TOM

[GayleArc]

Some of the other comfort food that I can remember was Pot Roast (friends
had it and said it was very good), ham, lamb. The pasta pasta is different every night. Two that I can remember were Fettachine Alfrado (sp?) and
Carbanaro (sp?).and Lazagna. We found it all to be a great addition to the menus. They did not take away anything we had before just added. Also
we did not have Dutch Night. They had some of the Dutch dishes on the
menu throughout the cruise.

[Roadwork]

Also we did not have Dutch Night. They had some of the Dutch dishes on the menu throughout the cruise.Was the pea soup still available? It is one of my favorite soups and I would hate to see it eliminated.

[dakrewser]

JDee, This is Holland. TOM
No it's a cruise ship. Holland is a country in Europe usually known as "The Netherlands". Or did you mean Holland America Lines (a.k.a. "HAL")?

-dave

[GayleArc]

Yes, we had Pea Soup one night and it was very good.

[Esme]

Yes, we had Pea Soup one night and it was very good.

Better than the stuff you had last time with the floating peas????? :D

[GayleArc]

Esme, Yes, much better. No flooting peas.

[dexter]

We had meatloaf on the 8/28 Zuiderdam cruise, but I figured it was there as an afterthought because of the extra days caused by Hurricane Francis. I can't believe that it is a weekly item now. I ate it just to prove to my tablemates that it was really "meatloaf". It was great with ketchup.

[Vic The Parrot]

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