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seamare
June 1st, 2009, 12:01 PM
I've been anxiously awaiting anyones review or comments regarding the Volendam - the last cruise wasn't so warmly reviewed. Is there anyone out there that has taken this cruise to Alaska out of Vancouver? We are booked for August.
papadave
June 1st, 2009, 12:29 PM
We were on a 14 day cruise starting in Vancouver last year, August 2008. It was pretty good. The ship is lovely and has plenty of wonderful public space. The itinerary was fantastic. We are taking a similar 14 day cruise this summer, on the Ryndam, and overall we were very happy.
People tend to dwell on the negative. The food was good, but not always luxurious. It appears that almost all the food is loaded onto the ship in Vancouver, so the shrimp got smaller and fruit went from fresh to canned by day 14. We stopped going to the shows because it was more entertaining to sit on deck and take in the scenery (it doesn't get dark until pretty late). I don't think any of the negatives were that significant.
We did not think the Pinnicle Grill on the Volendam was worth the surcharge. We had pretty bad luck with our dining companions (our first table companions missed the boat in Vancouver and we sat at a table for six with three empty seats for several days; our second table companions included someone who was not healthy enough to travel and had to be taken to a hospital by helicopter). We met dozens of great people who we met for lunch, drinks, games of Scrabble, and great conversation, sharing a private tour of Ketchikan and just being really happy to be on the ship with so many people having such a good time. I think I liked my fellow passengers more on this cruise than on any other cruise that I have been on.
The gym is great and you can watch for whales while on a treadmill. The ship is small enough to get closer to calving glaciers than some megaships.
I can recommend the Volendam for a cruise to Alaska without hesitation.
sandypaper
June 1st, 2009, 02:44 PM
I've been anxiously awaiting anyones review or comments regarding the Volendam - the last cruise wasn't so warmly reviewed. Is there anyone out there that has taken this cruise to Alaska out of Vancouver? We are booked for August.
I know what you mean I to am concerned about these bad reviews. I am sailing on Wednesday June 3rd and will let you know how I see things. This is my first cruise so have no past experiences. I am looking forward to it and have a very positive attitude.
wooooooohoooooooo.....finally its here!
Gsel
June 1st, 2009, 02:50 PM
We spent two weeks on the Volendam in Jan/Feb of this year. Sure, there were some problems, but nothing that would keep us from sailing on her again. Every cruise is what YOU make it. Go with the attitude that you will have a good time and you will. Don't let another's sour grapes ruin your good time. Enjoy every minute and just be grateful that you can go and see the beauty before you. Happy cruising!
wigwam12
June 1st, 2009, 04:01 PM
Glad to see this thread. I am booked on the Volendam for the Inside Passage Cruise on 29th July and I was concerned by some of the comments on the 2 negative threads...
I note though that they are related to Far Eastern Cruises and not the INside Passage...
TobiasFunke
June 1st, 2009, 06:37 PM
I am booked on the Volendam for the Inside Passage Cruise on 29th July and I was concerned by some of the comments on the 2 negative threads...
I note though that they are related to Far Eastern Cruises and not the INside Passage...
Me too! See you on the 29th.
Shayne.
seamare
June 2nd, 2009, 08:40 AM
Glad to hear some responses - I'm hoping that it was just a few people with very negative comments. I've found that with other lines that I've been on also. This is the first time for sailing with Holland so I really don't know what to expect. Therefore I'm consistently reading all I can. I'm hoping that a 7 day versus the extended trips will be better.
geologygeek
June 2nd, 2009, 01:53 PM
'm hoping that it was just a few people with very negative comments.
Sounds like it - shame they are all over these boards like a bad rash :rolleyes:
Himself
June 2nd, 2009, 01:57 PM
I have travelled on the VOLENDAM on a number of occasions and I have nothing but good to say about this ship. I first sailed her in November of 2001 and I liked it then. I have sailed her since, the last time being two years ago when she was going from Vancouver to Seward and back again. I have always liked this ship and she is one of my favorites.
ginjer2911
June 2nd, 2009, 02:25 PM
Dh and I were on the Volendam May 20-27 of this year. This was the cruise directly after the "bad" cruise from Australia. We had a great time. Had no problems at all. Thought the food was very good, very diverse. I will say the only thing that I read on those reviews that seems to be accurate is that in the DR the steaks are undercooked. I learned quickly to order it a little more done than I normally would. And I say if your steak is undercooked then just send it back. No need to make that the reason that you have a bad cruise.
The staff was awesome. I saw no animosity or problems among the staff. We were in Code Red for 5 days ( a tour group already traveling together prior to the cruise were sick when they boarded.) and the entertainment crew was helping with the serving in the Lido during lunch and all the staff and passengers were having a great time joking back and forth. We had told our steward that we didn't need turn down service because he was so busy with all the extra code red duties. He reluctantly agreed, but only skipped one night!!! :)
The itinerary is awesome. Tracy Arm and Glacier Bay really add a lot to the cruise. I had expected to be closer to the land since we were sailing the inside passage, but the ship went through really open passages. So going through Tracy Arm fulfilled my idea of what the cruise was going to be like.
I will be honest and say that that the whole cruise was not perfect, but the small problems that we did have were just not enough to make a difference to us. But we are also people who don't expect perfection. As long as the food is good; the itinerary is good; and we have a clean bed to sleep in......all the little stuff will take care of themselves.
Enjoy and have a great time!!
seamare
June 2nd, 2009, 10:07 PM
Dh and I were on the Volendam May 20-27 of this year. This was the cruise directly after the "bad" cruise from Australia. We had a great time. Had no problems at all. Thought the food was very good, very diverse. I will say the only thing that I read on those reviews that seems to be accurate is that in the DR the steaks are undercooked. I learned quickly to order it a little more done than I normally would. And I say if your steak is undercooked then just send it back. No need to make that the reason that you have a bad cruise.
The staff was awesome. I saw no animosity or problems among the staff. We were in Code Red for 5 days ( a tour group already traveling together prior to the cruise were sick when they boarded.) and the entertainment crew was helping with the serving in the Lido during lunch and all the staff and passengers were having a great time joking back and forth. We had told our steward that we didn't need turn down service because he was so busy with all the extra code red duties. He reluctantly agreed, but only skipped one night!!! :)
The itinerary is awesome. Tracy Arm and Glacier Bay really add a lot to the cruise. I had expected to be closer to the land since we were sailing the inside passage, but the ship went through really open passages. So going through Tracy Arm fulfilled my idea of what the cruise was going to be like.
I will be honest and say that that the whole cruise was not perfect, but the small problems that we did have were just not enough to make a difference to us. But we are also people who don't expect perfection. As long as the food is good; the itinerary is good; and we have a clean bed to sleep in......all the little stuff will take care of themselves.
Enjoy and have a great time!!
So glad to read your post. I don't think any cruise is "perfect" - we've been on 14 on various lines, this will be our first on Holland and our first time for Alaska. I chose this one basically for the itinerary and for the fact that it leaves on Wednesday - hoping that the ports wouldn't be as crowded. I will have to remember to order my steaks well done - or should it be medium well if I like it just pink?
Oca
June 2nd, 2009, 10:46 PM
We were on an early leg (Sydney-Singapore) of the 'supposed' cruise from hell and we had a wonderful time. I was really shocked to see such negativity on the two threads on these boards relating to that cruise. I admit that I cannot speak for anything that happened after Singapore (and we did not eat at the Pinnacle so I cannot address that issue either) but up to disembarking in Singapore, everything was good to excellent.
Was it perfect? Of course not and embarkation in Sydney was a real travesty. :eek: But was it a wonderful cruise? -- indeed it was. The ship was in fine shape, the crew was attentive and smiley, the food was good to very good and the people who we met were lovely and were all enjoying themselves.
Don't worry about your upcoming cruise. Enjoy yourself!
brucory
June 2nd, 2009, 11:04 PM
Was it perfect? Of course not and embarkation in Sydney was a real travesty. :eek: But was it a wonderful cruise? -- indeed it was. The ship was in fine shape, the crew was attentive and smiley, the food was good to very good and the people who we met were lovely and were all enjoying themselves.
Don't worry about your upcoming cruise. Enjoy yourself!
Nice to hear some balanced reports of the Volendam...
:D:D:D
brucory
June 2nd, 2009, 11:05 PM
We were in Code Red for 5 days ( a tour group already traveling together prior to the cruise were sick when they boarded.)
Were they actually sick when they got on? I wonder how they got passed the health declaration check?
:confused::confused::confused:
Bradtez
June 2nd, 2009, 11:26 PM
Sounds like it - shame they are all over these boards like a bad rash :rolleyes:
So are you stating that only good comments can be made on these boards. That wouldnt give a very good reflection on the good AND the bad of cruising would it??
Bradtez
June 2nd, 2009, 11:30 PM
Were they actually sick when they got on? I wonder how they got passed the health declaration check?
:confused::confused::confused:
The health declaration check is an absolute farce. My wife and i were at the front of the queue to get off the Volendam in Vancouver after coming from Kobe. An official came on board and asked a lady from the pursers desk "Has anybody on board been sick?'' to which the reply was ''No''.
Tell me, how is that a health declaration??
ooops
June 3rd, 2009, 08:52 AM
We were on an early leg (Sydney-Singapore) of the 'supposed' cruise from hell and we had a wonderful time. I was really shocked to see such negativity on the two threads on these boards relating to that cruise. I admit that I cannot speak for anything that happened after Singapore (and we did not eat at the Pinnacle so I cannot address that issue either) but up to disembarking in Singapore, everything was good to excellent.
Was it perfect? Of course not and embarkation in Sydney was a real travesty. :eek: But was it a wonderful cruise? -- indeed it was. The ship was in fine shape, the crew was attentive and smiley, the food was good to very good and the people who we met were lovely and were all enjoying themselves.
Don't worry about your upcoming cruise. Enjoy yourself!
Great to hear that your leg of the cruise was wonderful...wish I could say mine was just as wonderful. I was on from Hong Kong to Vancouver, and I must say I quite agree with most of the comments I read on the 2 threads. However, I was quite disappointed with a number of posters (who weren't even on the cruise) and how they twisted words, made extremely rude comments, and totally belittled fellow posters. IMO, the threads started out as comments and observations about the OP's cruise experience, but their comments were twisted and the thread morphed from "Volendam Not So Good Cruise" to "The Cruise from Hell".
Overall, I don't think the cruise was a catastrophe (it was, however, the most unpleasant cruise I've been on)...yes, there were many, many issues that the Volendam needs to address (IMO). For those who are already booked on the Volendam for an Alaska cruise this summer, I wouldn't cancel my booking just yet. A lot of these statements are quite subjective and they may or may not apply to you (hopefully they won't and you'll have a wonderful time). Or they may be issues that surfaced due to the repositioning and length of the cruise (and as such won't apply to you either). Anyhow, hope you have a splendid time and I look forward to hearing your thoughts and comments.
ooops
June 3rd, 2009, 09:15 AM
Dh and I were on the Volendam May 20-27 of this year... We were in Code Red for 5 days ( a tour group already traveling together prior to the cruise were sick when they boarded.) and the entertainment crew was helping with the serving in the Lido during lunch and all the staff and passengers were having a great time joking back and forth...
When did you find out the group of people were sick? I had some friends on your cruise (May 20-27) and they found out during an announcement made at the muster drill (which would have been about 4 or 5 pm...even before the ship sailed away). Wouldn't that mean the staff on the ship knew these people were sick very shortly after embarkation (or worse even before embarkation)? IMO, that's a very scary thought.
I will be honest and say that that the whole cruise was not perfect, but the small problems that we did have were just not enough to make a difference to us. But we are also people who don't expect perfection. As long as the food is good; the itinerary is good; and we have a clean bed to sleep in......all the little stuff will take care of themselves.
Enjoy and have a great time!!
I agree...the most important things about a cruise are the food, the itinerary, and a good clean room/bed. However, the other stuff is significant too as it enhances (or strains) the entire cruise experience.
samowales
June 3rd, 2009, 12:42 PM
We are also on the Volendam 29 July cruise , its our 1st ever cruise, we were getting a bit concerned after the recent reports. We are travelling from the UK , we have no cruise to compare it to and are looking forward to the views and the ports we visit. Look forward to any recent reviews of the alaskan trips.
seamare
June 3rd, 2009, 05:33 PM
I've been on some great cruises and some that did not meet our expectations. In all honesty though, we have always had a great vacation. Just being together and exploring different areas that we haven't seen before. I'm looking at this as its only one week, we are just testing the waters of Alaska, not doing a trip of a life time. So if the Volendam is what it is and there are issues, well we just won't be back. There are plenty of other ships to chose from. I had tried to do the research before hand and was not finding that much objectionable issues at the time. I know we WILL have a great vacation.
wigwam12
June 3rd, 2009, 06:23 PM
Saowales [no need to ask where in the UK you are from: I am down the A55 from you!] and TobiasFunke will look forward to bumping into you on the Cruise.
What excursions have you guys booked? [sory for the side-track folks!]
woody73
June 4th, 2009, 05:47 AM
I've been anxiously awaiting anyones review or comments regarding the Volendam - the last cruise wasn't so warmly reviewed. Is there anyone out there that has taken this cruise to Alaska out of Vancouver? We are booked for August.
We just spent 70 days on the Volendam -- March 19 to May 20 (Sydney to Vancouver) and May 20 to May 27 (Alaska Inside Passage).
We cruise quite often. Very often. These were our 24th and 25th cruises (on various cruise lines). In the last 12 months, we went on five cruises for a total of 147 days on many different ships.
The Volendam is an older ship, and it shows. For example, our cabin experienced plumbing problems almost daily -- the toilet often did not flush, in the mornings there was brown water from the sink faucet, and the bathtub drain was cloged. And that's just the bathroom. We called the front desk regularly about these problems, and each time we were told, "They're working on it." But maintenance never showed up. Not once. We had Open Seating, and this was a common problem experienced by many other passengers we spoke with.
Problems like these occurred ship-wide. One day in the main theatre, the fire sprinklers malfunctioned and sprayed the audience during an afternoon event.
Throughout our 70 days onboard, we watched HAL cut back in many areas. (Perhaps this is a reflection of the economy, and is industrywide.) We observed a reduction in crewmembers, as many were let go when we reached Indonesia and were not replaced. This resulted in a noticable decline in crew morale. The crewmembers were stretched so thin, it was no match to even our last HAL cruise in December 2008.
Similarly, the variety of foods available became increasingly limited. For example, on May 20 in Vancouver, a new Lido boss came onboard. After that, at dinnertime you couldn't always get the same entrees in the Lido that were served in the main dining room. Also, in the morning, at times "frozen concentrate" orange juice was passed off as "fresh squeezed."
Sadly, the Volendam "Alaska Inside Passage" cruise did not meet our expectations.
Woody
jannandjohn
June 4th, 2009, 07:00 AM
After cruising on the Volendam , (along with the past 2 posters who were in our CC roll call) this was the first cruise we have done, that made us feel quite depressed afterwards...not because we got off, but because we had been on it.
this recent HAL review is interesting
http://www.cruisecritic.com/memberreviews/memberreview.cfm?EntryID=55188
cruiserman79
June 4th, 2009, 07:11 AM
I've been anxiously awaiting anyones review or comments regarding the Volendam - the last cruise wasn't so warmly reviewed. Is there anyone out there that has taken this cruise to Alaska out of Vancouver? We are booked for August.
Just got back from the very same cruise today and we're still sick after getting what was likely Norwalk virus. I would avoid the Volendam like the plague and wouldn't risk any of HAL's ships after what happened to me.
Quite frankly, one of the WORST experiences ever.
Ides of March
June 4th, 2009, 10:33 AM
this thread will disappear into the ether.
Ides
samsonmo
June 4th, 2009, 11:17 AM
After cruising on the Volendam , (along with the past 2 posters who were in our CC roll call) this was the first cruise we have done, that made us feel quite depressed afterwards...not because we got off, but because we had been on it.
this recent HAL review is interesting
http://www.cruisecritic.com/memberreviews/memberreview.cfm?EntryID=55188
we loved the itenary from Hong Kong to Vancouver but we also were depressed afterwards and agree: not becos we got off in Vancouver but that we had been on this ship for 33 days. Sad but true HAL persons at the head office who are implementing new rules and regulations to safe cost are not realizing what they are doing to the guests. We had 7 great cruises on Prinsendam but after this trip on Volendam ......HAL has lost a fervent admirer. Luckily there is Oceania Cruises as well.
Peter
wigwam12
June 4th, 2009, 01:07 PM
Oh dear :(
chrispb
June 4th, 2009, 02:34 PM
Looks like things are getting seriously bad! I'm not bothering to write anything else as this post will disappear just like the other one did.
Bradtez
June 4th, 2009, 02:53 PM
We just spent 70 days on the Volendam -- March 19 to May 20 (Sydney to Vancouver) and May 20 to May 27 (Alaska Inside Passage).
We cruise quite often. Very often. These were our 24th and 25th cruises (on various cruise lines). In the last 12 months, we went on five cruises for a total of 147 days on many different ships.
The Volendam is an older ship, and it shows. For example, our cabin experienced plumbing problems almost daily -- the toilet often did not flush, in the mornings there was brown water from the sink faucet, and the bathtub drain was cloged. And that's just the bathroom. We called the front desk regularly about these problems, and each time we were told, "They're working on it." But maintenance never showed up. Not once. We had Open Seating, and this was a common problem experienced by many other passengers we spoke with.
Problems like these occurred ship-wide. One day in the main theatre, the fire sprinklers malfunctioned and sprayed the audience during an afternoon event.
Throughout our 70 days onboard, we watched HAL cut back in many areas. (Perhaps this is a reflection of the economy, and is industrywide.) We observed a reduction in crewmembers, as many were let go when we reached Indonesia and were not replaced. This resulted in a noticable decline in crew morale. The crewmembers were stretched so thin, it was no match to even our last HAL cruise in December 2008.
Similarly, the variety of foods available became increasingly limited. For example, on May 20 in Vancouver, a new Lido boss came onboard. After that, at dinnertime you couldn't always get the same entrees in the Lido that were served in the main dining room. Also, in the morning, at times "frozen concentrate" orange juice was passed off as "fresh squeezed."
Sadly, the Volendam "Alaska Inside Passage" cruise did not meet our expectations.
Woody
Gday Woody,
i didnt hear about the fire sprinklers going off in the main theatre, were the crew running around handing out DAM umbrellas for passengers??:D
Its sad to know that this thread wont be here long to warn off other potential HAL customers. Seems to be a ''coverup'' going on with all negative thread mysteriously disappearing!!:rolleyes::rolleyes:
On a side note, we had a FANTASTIC 8 days in Vancouver and are flying home to Sydney tonight.
woody73
June 4th, 2009, 04:51 PM
. . . On a side note, we had a FANTASTIC 8 days in Vancouver and are flying home to Sydney tonight.
We are very glad to hear that you enjoyed Vancouver, as it is a vibrant city. Have a smooth flight home.
Woody
ginjer2911
June 4th, 2009, 04:58 PM
Were they actually sick when they got on? I wonder how they got passed the health declaration check?
:confused::confused::confused:
This is a great question and actually one that I would like to know the answer to.
The code red started at sail-away. The first announcement came when dh and I were unpacking before dinner and after leaving Vancouver. Lunch in the Lido was normal...no plastic wrap, etc. And we learned very quickly who was sick. If they were honest and filled out the health questionnaire correctly...will they be allowed to board? I do also know that 4 people did not board in Vancouver, but joined later in the cruise. Not sure if it was due to illness or missed the connection.
TobiasFunke
June 4th, 2009, 11:43 PM
Saowales [no need to ask where in the UK you are from: I am down the A55 from you!] and TobiasFunke will look forward to bumping into you on the Cruise.
What excursions have you guys booked? [sory for the side-track folks!]
We have only booked one excursion so far, Misty Fjords Jetboat tour. I hope you have some events planned pre and post cruise in Canada. You will enjoy our country. Additionally I am not worried right now about the cruise or poor service. We will judge everything for ourselves. I think that bad things do happen but we will approach everything with a positive attitude. It is our annual family vacation after all.
Shayne.
Down-Unders
June 5th, 2009, 07:04 AM
We are also on the Volendam 29 July cruise , its our 1st ever cruise, we were getting a bit concerned after the recent reports. We are travelling from the UK , we have no cruise to compare it to and are looking forward to the views and the ports we visit. Look forward to any recent reviews of the alaskan trips.
Lovely ship great crew and charming public areas. The ship was spotless and the food and service was excellent. Sometimes when people get ill or have a not so good cruise their anger and frustration can cloud their impression of a particular ship. Enjoy the Volendam, we did.
tjcletsgo
June 5th, 2009, 08:04 AM
We were just on the Volendam 5/20 sailing to Alaska. Out of one to ten, we both agreed this cruise was a ten+. Better than I could have possibly imagined. Was it perfect? No, but given the fact that the cruise line has to please 1300 people, it was a ten. I'd sail her again in a heartbeat!
If you are positive person and not a whiner or cry baby, you will have a fantastic time.
geologygeek
June 5th, 2009, 12:00 PM
If you are positive person and not a whiner or cry baby, you will have a fantastic time.
Now that's just too funny!
woody73
June 5th, 2009, 10:04 PM
Were they actually sick when they got on? I wonder how they got passed the health declaration check?
We were onboard when the Code Red was announced.
On May 20, shortly after the 4:15 pm muster drill, the captain announced the Code Red, saying that some people were on a pre-cruise tour and contracted the gastro intestinal virus in British Columbia.
The next morning at breakfast, we met some people who were with that group tour. It was a "land and sea" package run by Scenic Tours. They had stayed at various Westmark Hotels, a HAL company. They had several buses of people, and some people became very ill on the bus or train ride. At least one "Scenic Tours" tour guide accompanied the group onto the ship. (We saw her having dinner by herself in the main dining room, but she gladly greeted and answered questions by people in her group.)
So, Scenic Tours knew that some of its clients were sick before boarding. I'm not going to speculate whether HAL knew that sick passengers were boarding.
Woody
Raja2005
June 5th, 2009, 11:17 PM
I, too, have been reading the negatives reviews of the Voldendam as we are sailing July 8th out of Vancouver to Alaska. As this is our 3rd cruise, (1st on RCCL, 2nd Princess),I have noticed by reading these message boards it is very easy to get caught up in negatives postings and assume that you will have a less than pleasant trip. I remember reading passengers reviews (which would focus on the negative) about RCCL, then Princess before each of our trips, and I decided to just ignore them and see for ourselves. Both of our trips were great and I am glad I didn't board with a negative attitude. I guess you could always find something negative to report, but each cruise has taught me to go into each trip with an open mind that it will be a good trip. So, I am looking forward to our trip, don't regret booking it, and always appreciate it when other posters do have something positive to say.:)
wigwam12
June 6th, 2009, 08:29 AM
We have only booked one excursion so far, Misty Fjords Jetboat tour. I hope you have some events planned pre and post cruise in Canada. You will enjoy our country. Additionally I am not worried right now about the cruise or poor service. We will judge everything for ourselves. I think that bad things do happen but we will approach everything with a positive attitude. It is our annual family vacation after all.
Shayne.
Thanks Shayne
My in-laws are Canadian so come over a bit. I will be in BC for a week before the cruise and then 2 weeks afterwards with the requisite trip to the Rockies:D
I have booked:
Harv&Marv Whale-watching
Helicopter Glacier Tour Skagway first thing; then hopefully get the WPYR train and a tour with a local guide (Dyea Dave - confirmation pending).
Island Wings FloatPlane Ketchikan
rfbdorf
June 6th, 2009, 01:16 PM
It appears that there are two Volendams - the pukey and the smiley.
I hope that we get on the right one in mid-August!
- Richard
wigwam12
June 6th, 2009, 03:13 PM
It appears that there are two Volendams - the pukey and the smiley.
I hope that we get on the right one in mid-August!
- Richard
Only if that is the same one that goes on 29th Jul!!