Oil has hit $70/gal.

[callmedeb]

http://www.bloomberg.com/energy/

I mean BARREL... It's early.

:(

[Tarheel72]

That would be $70 per BARREL. If it goes to $70 a gallon you can forget about cruising and start worrying about walking to work.

[bigwally]

But it's off again now (back down to $68.20), so maybe it won't close over $70 today.

[nikkin]

When it gets to what price per barrel do they start to add that fuel charge?

[pms4104]

When it gets to what price per barrel do they start to add that fuel charge?
When it closes at $70, Carnival Corp. reserves the right to reintroduce a fuel surcharge. No one know if/when and how much $$$ it will be and what terms will apply. We all have surmised it would be the same as in the past, but it has been pure conjecture on our part.

[jtl513]

I mean BARREL... It's early. :(FYI: you don't have to give any reason for editing your post! I never do. :)

[jerseygirl3]

With such a poor economy, you'd think the cruiselines would be grateful anybody is still cruising. I would hope they would think long and hard before they would reinstitute the fuel surcharge.

[CuriousJ]

If we've already made final payment on our cruise, without the fuel charge, can they still add it at a later date?

[pms4104]

If we've already made final payment on our cruise, without the fuel charge, can they still add it at a later date?
Since HAL suspended the surcharge, they have been careful to include on all promos, bookings, etc. a disclaimer that they reserve the right to re-assess a fuel surcharge. So, it is possible that should HAL put the charge back into effect, it will impact all passengers sailing after a given date. I would surmise it might include those who already have made final payment.

[Nutbunch]

If we've already made final payment on our cruise, without the fuel charge, can they still add it at a later date?


I read the contract stuff when I booked and it did state that if the reinstate the fuel charge that it would be an additional charge. Even if final payment for the cruise has beeen recieved. I imiagine it would be easier to add it to that credit card they have the $60/day hold on.

[Boytjie]

I read the contract stuff when I booked and it did state that if the reinstate the fuel charge that it would be an additional charge. Even if final payment for the cruise has beeen recieved. I imiagine it would be easier to add it to that credit card they have the $60/day hold on.

Remember, the $60 a day hold only starts once you board the ship.

[pms4104]

Following is from the Cruise/Cruisetour Contract on HAL's site:

"1. Additions to Fare/Non-Discountable Amount, Taxes and Surcharges: (a) The fare that you paid was determined far in advance of Initial Departure on the basis of then-existing projections of fuel and other costs. In the event of an increase in fuel or other costs above amounts projected, we have the right to increase the fare at any time up to Initial Departure and to require payment of the additional fare prior to Initial Departure. We have the right to refuse to transport you unless the additional fare is paid. Within seven (7) days after you are notified of the additional fare (but no later than Initial Departure), you may elect to surrender this contract to us for cancellation, whereupon you will receive the Refund Amount. Cancellation fees do not apply to this type of refund."

Further in the contract: "If governmental action results in any element of Taxes exceeding the estimates used by us for purposes of computing the quoted amount, we reserve the right to pass through the extra amount. Similarly, we reserve the right to impose or pass through fuel surcharges, security surcharges or similar incidental surcharges. No right of cancellation exists under either of these circumstances."

[m steve]

to Obamas comments regarding women and human rights. They'll teach us a lesson!

[serendipity1499]

Following is from the Cruise/Cruisetour Contract on HAL's site:

"1. Additions to Fare/Non-Discountable Amount, Taxes and Surcharges: (a) The fare that you paid was determined far in advance of Initial Departure on the basis of then-existing projections of fuel and other costs. In the event of an increase in fuel or other costs above amounts projected, we have the right to increase the fare at any time up to Initial Departure and to require payment of the additional fare prior to Initial Departure. We have the right to refuse to transport you unless the additional fare is paid. Within seven (7) days after you are notified of the additional fare (but no later than Initial Departure), you may elect to surrender this contract to us for cancellation, whereupon you will receive the Refund Amount. Cancellation fees do not apply to this type of refund."

Further in the contract: "If governmental action results in any element of Taxes exceeding the estimates used by us for purposes of computing the quoted amount, we reserve the right to pass through the extra amount. Similarly, we reserve the right to impose or pass through fuel surcharges, security surcharges or similar incidental surcharges. No right of cancellation exists under either of these circumstances."

RE Fuel surcharges: Does anyone else think that these two paragraphs completely contradict each other ?..:confused: Paragraph one says if they impose a fuel surcharge, you can cancel & will get a full refund with no cancellation fee...Then the next paragraph says "No right of cancellation exists under either of these corcumstances"... What am I missing?

Betty

[pms4104]

RE Fuel surcharges: Does anyone else think that these two paragraphs completely contradict each other ?..:confused: Paragraph one says if they impose a fuel surcharge, you can cancel & will get a full refund with no cancellation fee...Then the next paragraph says "No right of cancellation exists under either of these corcumstances"... What am I missing?

Betty
Sorry ... I was in a hurry to run some errands. But, it appears that in paragraph #1 HAL is talking about "burying" extra costs (such as fuel) in the actual fare. And, subsequently, they discuss fuel surcharges as an add-on, which would not permit cancellation without penalty. The fuel surcharge would not be buried in the fare or fare increase, but would be assessed as a separate additional amount.

[Tricia724]

Here's the way I'm reading it:

1) If HAL imposes the fuel charge, a passenger may refuse to pay it and has cancellation rights.

2) If a government steps in and imposes additional taxes or fees on the cruiseline, and the cruiseline is forced to assess the passengers additional charges to comply with the governmental action, then the passenger has no cancellation rights.

I agree that those statements are confusing, but after reading them about five times, that's the interpretation I received.

[jtl513]

Here's the way I'm reading it:

1) If HAL imposes the fuel charge, a passenger may refuse to pay it and has cancellation rights.

2) If a government steps in and imposes additional taxes or fees on the cruiseline, and the cruiseline is forced to assess the passengers additional charges to comply with the governmental action, then the passenger has no cancellation rights.

I agree that those statements are confusing, but after reading them about five times, that's the interpretation I received.But the 2nd paragraph does include the words "fuel surcharges", and those wouldn't be as a result of governmental actions. So I agree with serendipity1499: the paragraphs are contradictory with respect to fuel surcharges.

[Rosieo]

Oh great, we sail on Sunday, my luck they will impose that charge before then. Will they notify me ahead of time or will I find out when we board?