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Does anyone know the time, cost and best way to get from Amtrak south station to the cruise port? Never done it, so any insight would be appreciated

Good catch on Emerald, actually Sapphire, I always mix those stones up, must be my old age LOL I already said it wasn't relevant. We take lots of cruises on lots of different lines so to say by "us" not sailing on NCL has contributed the drop off in bookings is silly. All of the cruise lines had reduced bookings and only NCL couldn't make NY work? If its because of reduced bookings then there are lots of people bailing on the brand in NY. I already could see there was a reduction in NY choices and was just trying to find out if there was an official word from NCL on their strategy. We were on NCL twice in 2023 and the ships were basically full with all the available sailing dates last year so the reduction makes no sense. I guess its just best to keep an eye opened but for those of us who book a year in advance, 2024 is shaping up to year we bypass NCL altogether which is unfortunate.

We are emerald on NCL but since the start of covid in 2019 have just started to sail on NCL again in 2023. We have been cruising routinely but just not on NCL for a number of reasons which are irrelevant to my question. Typically we sail in the winter months, December through February out of New York. We were going to book cruises for 2025 and noticed that except for a cruise here and there, NCL has no routine sailings during the winter from NY, the same holds true for 2026. Gone are the routine 10 day cruises in December, January February and March and the same holds true for 2026. MSC and RCCL seem to have a thriving NY winter business yet NCL is disappearing, anyone know what's going on?

We have been on lots of cruises over the years, close to 100 in actuality. Gratuities/tips have morphed considerably over the decades and from my perspective not in a good way. Whatever side of the discussion you are on is irrelevant, there is on right or wrong answer. Removing them does not make you a cheapskate and leaving them on does not make you a blind fool following the company's sob story. We generally leave them on but don't hesitate to remove them either if warranted, and to answer some questions, no, service is not different, there is no list singling you out , the staff treats you the same no matter what.you choose to do. However, we have reached the spill over point with reductions in food quality and room service and never ending increases in gratuities and we are changing our MO. From now on all prepaid gratuities will be removed and we will tip accordingly to those that actually serve us. I expect those amounts to be equal to the prepaid amounts that go to the cabin stewards, waiters, and assistants. No we don't tip the laundry or any other behind the scenes workers. The cruise line made the their labor deals and its up to them to keep their employees happy and paid. Tips need to be earned so by my definition they should never be prepaid even though I went along with that concept for a long time.

Its been a few years since we sailed NCL but will be onboard in a few weeks. It has always been our habit to purchase two Cruise Next certificates ($500) every time we sail. The last time we did we received the two certificates and $250 onboard credit for the purchase of the certificates. Typically we would use that $250 onboard credit and add another $250 to pay for the $500 cost. I thought I read somewhere over the past year or so that NCL has stopped allowing the use of that onboard credit to pay for the $500 cruise next certificates. This resulted in a new $500 charge onboard as well as $250 onboard credit that must be used for something else before disembarking. Is that correct or did I mis read something?

According to this source https://worldsalaries.com/average-hotel-staff-salary-in-indonesia/ a waiter with 1 to 3 years experience in indonesia earns a salary ad bonus of $478/month with the average waiter earning $605/month, both below the the $653 cruise line salaries before tips. An entry level hotel worker earns $128/month with an average hotel worker earning $271/month. Well below what the $653/month cruise salary affords before any gratuities are added. So no, they are not underpaid except in the minds of those falling for RCCL and any other cruise line sob stories. Its a game to extract as much dollars as they can folks....nothing more. So if you want to tip above the gratuities go ahead, if you want to remove them and tip in cash fine, heck...even if you remove everything and tip nothing the crew is not being stiffed

As someone on the other side of your position I respectfully disagree with rolling tips into the fare as it no longer becomes gratuities that are earned. For over 30 years we paid prepaid tips on cruise ship and always added extra too. Its the constant increases year in and year out and the BS about tipping behind the scenes that have crossed the line. I never bought into that concept but let it slide as the changes were often just 50 cents or so. Just look at the previous info posted here, if minimum cruise wages are going up $8 per month ($658 to $666), that represents a 1.2% increase, yet the $2 increase in gratuities from $16 to $18 represents a 12.5% increase, where's the justification in that? Its out of control and rolling up these fees into the fares just hide little tidbits of info like this.

You hit the nail on the head here with why those of us pushing back on the auto gratuities and never ending increases don't want to play anymore. Yet it goes beyond culture and and the financial circumstances of each crew member. RCCL, as well as the other cruise lines, are playing us all for sentimental fools. They've got us believing we need to compensate the poor disadvantaged crew members who are making double the average salary in their own country, get free room and board and the only expense other than personal items is internet. I've already shown in an earlier post that the auto tips, if you pay them, is 30% of the the normal vacation expenses that by US standards would be subject to the typical 18% to 20% tip rate in the United States. In addition, that also includes the many areas (i.e behind the scenes) that no one in their right mind would tip anywhere else besides a cruise ship and if removed, the 30% would be that much higher. So folks, do what your wish, after all its your money, but its mine too and after 30+ years of paying the auto tips and more I've said no more. From now on, I'll be removing every auto gratuity charge and tipping directly those who serve me, if earned, and not what RCL or NCL or Carnival tells me to, but what is warranted based on service.

As someone who managed a large call center in the NY/NJ/CT area I can tell you exactly how those recorded calls are handled in the system. Yes, every call is recorded in most robust systems and none of them are ever listened to unless there's a serious issue/complaint against the CSR (Customer Service Rep), the CSR is new and the manager is evaluating the employee or oversight teams are randomly listening in on live calls. All CSRs end a call with a wrap code meaning they choose from a list of 20 codes in order for management to have daily/weekly/monthly list of why folks are calling. That list is only as good as the CSR as sloppy reps will use the same 2 or 3 codes for every call regardless of the callers original issue. Unless a particular category moves drastically, the list is rather useless in identifying a specific issue. For instance, even if coded correctly 100% of the time, if RCL just raised gratuities and the codes about gratuities call up substantially, management will put the two pieces of information together and shrug it off as expected.

Yeah, here in CT they call it the rainy day fund and its always raining for stupid projects 😄

I don't doubt if the list is authentic, but does it really tell you anything more than you already know? Stewards and waitors were always getting a piece but over 40% is listed as other. When other is the biggest category it definately looks like they are trying to hide something and whether its people you wouldn't normally tip or a cash grab by RCCL it makes no difference, its not money I'm willing to continue paying.

Late to this conversation but I've been involved in others for many years like most of you. We've for the most part paid the daily gratuities plus some extra on most of our cruises for years. As I've stated before, we remember when it was recommended amounts per waiter, steward and bus boy and handed cash to each of them. Then the cruise lines started collecting those amounts via daily services charges which you opted in if you wished and they would provide vouchers you actually handed to the stewards and waiters with extra cash if you were so inclined. If they left it that way it would have been fine. Then the mumbo jumbo started predicated with an increase in the daily service charge and the sob story of its not only the waiters and stewards but laundry and behind the scenes workers too so there's no need to hand these vouchers back to the stewards and waiters as RCL will distribute accordingly. This coupled with no breakdown of where these monies go with the never ending increases just about every year has led us to today's discussions. I for one believe these charges are out of hand already, before the latest scheduled increase, and with a little analysis came up with some interesting numbers. In 2022, RCCL onboard payroll was $1.3 billion which should include every person from the captain to the waiter, bus boy, bar service, laundry, officers etc.. The total cost of food was $0.6 billion which I might point out includes the specialty restaurant foods. That totals $1.9 billion dollars of expenses where gratuities would normally be calculated even though its ectremely the high end as I've already mentioned it includes people you would not normally tip (Captain, Engineers) or expenses that have another stream of gratuity revenue such as the booze plan and specialty venues. Take a standard 20% gratuity on the $1.9 billion and you get $380 million in service fees. In 2022, RCCL had 5.5 million passengers who took a total of 35.1 million days at sea, they sailed at 85.1% capacity. Divide the $380 million by the 35.1 million sea days and the daily service charge should be around $11 per person per night at a 20% tip rate. All of these numbers are in the annual report and as you can see, the daily service charge at $16 is already at a 30% rate even before backing out people you would not normally tip or expenses that have additional gratuities built in already.

I started this thread because while we all knew prices were increasing I'm not sure any of us are seeing the overall RCL picture. There have been lots of reply's here with great information. Some seeing increases and other decreases which is great to see. Like most of you, I can only speak or post on trips I've booked, or interested in booking, and we are getting priced out, at least with RCL. Now you can never really compare cruise lines because they off different things that might be gold to me and crap to others, but generally speaking, RCL, NCL, Hal and even Carnival are similar mainstream cruise lines. We generally sail out of NY/NJ on longer cruises and since we've been to just about every Island south of NY and could care less about itinerary. We are loyal to no one cruise line, have over 100 sailing days on multiple lines and just like being at sea. We moved over to RCL exclusively just as the pandemic was ending mostly because the menus on RCL far exceeded NCL and have been sailing 3 and 4 times a year with them. Then with the recent menu changes last January (we hated it), gave NCL a try and discovered the pendulum on food has swung back int their favor in our opinion. We still sail RCL as we like the solarium for the winter cruises so RCL has its pluses too. So what's my point about pricing? Try booking a winter cruise in January 2024 on either line out of NY or NJ and you will find a 10 Getaway sailing on NCL and an 11 say sailing on RCL The cheapest NCL pick you own cabin balcony for 3 is $4,225 which includes their booze plan, remove the booze plan and free dining offers and that drops to $3,531. Thesame comparable cabin on the anthem is just under $5,000 and includes nothing but port taxes. So on a per night basis RCL $454 per night compared to NCL's $353 ($422 with booze) per night. Something is just not right with RCL pricing in this partof the world. Whether it be excess vouchers or pent up demand, I don't know but there are other options that folks like me will be exercising. ps: I chose 3 person Balcony cabin example because we have the same cruise booked in December on the getaway out of NY for 3.

We usually book 6 months to a year in advance and currently have 3 cruises booked. Started to look into next year and the prices are nuts. The January 2024 Anthem sailings, only 3 months away, are between $1,483 and $1,550 per person (including Taxes) for a sail away interior cabin depending which of the 11 day cruises you choose Add taxes and the range becomes $1,691 and $1,795. If you want to pick your cabin that adds another $143pp making an interior cabin for two totaling between $3,668 and $3,876. Six or so months ago we booked two of those cruise, picking our own interior stateroom for $2,122 and $2,060, respectively. That's 70% to 75% increase depending on the 11 day cruise. So I thought to look further into the future to January 2025 when the odyssey replaces anthem thinking booking earlier will generate better pricing. For the first two 11 nighter's price are basically the same, maybe a little higher, however, the January 27th sailing is beyond ridiculous. It becomes an 12 nighter and comes in at $5,379 for a sail away interior cabin and balconies over $10,000 for 2. What the heck is going on? I know prices are going up but at this rate I might never sail again.