Europeans are Rude and No Manners

[misterscrubs]

Been on the MSC Poesia last week Feb 11-18 2012, and what an experience that was. Yes I read all the posts and do agree to disagree. Case in point when you enter a buffet line, you do not shove your way through and not say excuse me in your language or enter the theater late and come into a seat and barge through, without saying something. I offered to get up and let someone into a seat and I could not move fast enough for the impatient and rude Europeans.
The staff are dimwits( No English whatsoever. Do they not leave from Ft Lauderdale, Florida USA. You ask them a simple question and they look at you like you have 3 heads. Or they just say NO or refer you to the reception desk. Do they wear blinders and just do not think? No manners either. ie..will not hold a door open for you or help you. Learn ENGLISH FOR STAFF. Manners are Manners and if you want American people to come on their cruise-ship, bend a little or leave from the Caribbean and not the USA.

[Capricruiser]

No comment worth making.

[Wimpinthewater35]

Originally Posted by misterscrubs

Been on the MSC Poesia last week Feb 11-18 2012, and what an experience that was. Yes I read all the posts and do agree to disagree. Case in point when you enter a buffet line, you do not shove your way through and not say excuse me in your language or enter the theater late and come into a seat and barge through, without saying something. I offered to get up and let someone into a seat and I could not move fast enough for the impatient and rude Europeans.
The staff are dimwits( No English whatsoever. Do they not leave from Ft Lauderdale, Florida USA. You ask them a simple question and they look at you like you have 3 heads. Or they just say NO or refer you to the reception desk. Do they wear blinders and just do not think? No manners either. ie..will not hold a door open for you or help you. Learn ENGLISH FOR STAFF. Manners are Manners and if you want American people to come on their cruise-ship, bend a little or leave from the Caribbean and not the USA.

Wow we were on the sailing prior and never found a crew member who couldn't speak/understand reasonably good english. I do agree about the seating but on our sailing americans did it too and without staff in the theater, seats were being saved by all regardless of the requests not to do so. I found reception staff to be the most rude out of all the staff onboard. I asked for a piece of tape the woman had the dispenser within inches of her hand and she said NO we don't have any, then I heard a man in a scooter ask for a screwdriver to fix the handle on his scooter and again the woman said No didn't even offer to call someone to try and help. The girls at the spa were the most helpful always holding the doors to go out to the pool once we got off the elevators said good morning asked how we were and not in a sales type of way.

I do question your statement with how leaving from the caribbean instead of florida would make any change other than making it more of a PITA to get to and from the ship.

[stanleeder]

I am European and was also on that cruise. I can only say that if all Europeans are rude then all North Americans are greedy and obese. It's only the French who are rude

[toocruisin']

Originally Posted by stanleeder

I am European and was also on that cruise. I can only say that if all Europeans are rude then all North Americans are greedy and obese. It's only the French who are rude

Agreed on all counts!!

[shunter2309]

Originally Posted by stanleeder

I am European and was also on that cruise. I can only say that if all Europeans are rude then all North Americans are greedy and obese. It's only the French who are rude

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You - LOVE IT!!!

[boca7]

Originally Posted by misterscrubs

Been on the MSC Poesia last week Feb 11-18 2012, and what an experience that was. Yes I read all the posts and do agree to disagree. Case in point when you enter a buffet line, you do not shove your way through and not say excuse me in your language or enter the theater late and come into a seat and barge through, without saying something. I offered to get up and let someone into a seat and I could not move fast enough for the impatient and rude Europeans.
The staff are dimwits( No English whatsoever. Do they not leave from Ft Lauderdale, Florida USA. You ask them a simple question and they look at you like you have 3 heads. Or they just say NO or refer you to the reception desk. Do they wear blinders and just do not think? No manners either. ie..will not hold a door open for you or help you. Learn ENGLISH FOR STAFF. Manners are Manners and if you want American people to come on their cruise-ship, bend a little or leave from the Caribbean and not the USA.

Sorry!! Your comment is very rude, even if you had a bad experience you dor not generalize a whole continent.

[joybaby]

Very uncalled for statement. I did not find this on the Poesia at all!

And rude! We were in Tuscany a few years back and I was horrified at the demand of the visiting Americans.

[madjack]

"The staff are dimwits( No English whatsoever. Do they not leave from Ft Lauderdale, Florida USA. You ask them a simple question and they look at you like you have 3 heads. Or they just say NO or refer you to the reception desk. Do they wear blinders and just do not think? No manners either. ie..will not hold a door open for you or help you. Learn ENGLISH FOR STAFF. Manners are Manners and if you want American people to come on their cruise-ship, bend a little or leave from the Caribbean and not the USA."

I was sorry to hear such a comment about staff being dimwits because they do not understand English. We have been on Carnival, RCCL and Princess and there were several staff members who did not understand or speak English very well. A person's attitude is important in these situations. If you smile at someone, and ask a question and that staff member does not speak English, h/she will usually find someone to help you. Even when a ship is sailing from Fort Lauderdale it is unrealistic to think that all staff will speak English fluently. I have read many cruise reviews where Americans traveling in the Med are outraged when not all staff, or passengers, can speak English. Although many Americans are sorely lacking in language skills, most make an effort when traveling abroad to learn a few phrases in the languages of the countries they will visit. To travel in other countries and expect everyone to know English is very narrow-minded. We travel to Europe by ourselves, by land, and have never had any problems. Although I speak Italian, I can barely get by with French, which I am now learning. Before we went to France, I learned a few phrases, such as good day, please, thank you, and where are the washrooms. Everyone seemed pleased that I made an effort to speak a bit of their language. It is a big world and we all should try to enjoy each others cultures and learn from each other. There are rude people everywhere, and certainly here in the U.S. To call all Europeans rude is very wrong, as most people who have been to Europe would agree.

[Wimpinthewater35]

I have to wonder what the "simple question" was?

Acting out the request like in a game of charades has worked for us when the person didn't understand what we were saying. But they told us they didn't understand in nearly perfect english.

[misterscrubs]

By all means there were Europeans whom made the Cruse an exception. I am sorry if I generalized all Europeans(some Europeans) I retract the statement that the staff was dimwits wrong choice of words. Sometimes you write and don't think it through.

[rusky123]

A nice apology misterscrubs, thank you . I am a European, DH is another sort of European, and we can see the differences between nations. The Italians want to eat as soon as the restaurant opens and have no concept of queuing, the Spanish want to eat as late as possible, and have no concept of queuing, the French are a little introspective and have no concept of queuing. Brits have the concept of waiting in line unless its a Ryanair flight when manners go out of the window . Seriously though I am a mild mannered middle aged European lady who would never ever push-in or be rude to anyone, although I have learned how to stand up for myself when needs be.

Different cultures have different ways about them. I have learnt to be tolerant and go with the flow when abroad.

[boca7]

Originally Posted by rusky123

A nice apology misterscrubs, thank you . I am a European, DH is another sort of European, and we can see the differences between nations. The Italians want to eat as soon as the restaurant opens and have no concept of queuing, the Spanish want to eat as late as possible, and have no concept of queuing, the French are a little introspective and have no concept of queuing. Brits have the concept of waiting in line unless its a Ryanair flight when manners go out of the window . Seriously though I am a mild mannered middle aged European lady who would never ever push-in or be rude to anyone, although I have learned how to stand up for myself when needs be.

Different cultures have different ways about them. I have learnt to be tolerant and go with the flow when abroad.

That is really funny if it wasn`t so true.

[mbeginner]

The Problem with Speaking English

1. The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than
Englishmen and Americans.

2. The Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than
Englishmen and Americans.

3. The Chinese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks
than Englishmen and Americans.

4. The Italians and French drink a lot of red wine and suffer fewer heart
attacks than Englishmen and Americans.

5. The Germans drink a lot of beers and eat lots of sausages and fats and
suffer fewer heart attacks than Englishmen and Americans.

6. Algerians have almost no sex and suffer fewer heart attacks than
Englishmen and Americans.

7. Brazilians seldom stop having sex and suffer fewer heart attacks than
Englishmen and Americans.

CONCLUSION

Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills




Sorry about my English

[sharecruises]

LOL that was funny, thanks....Speaking English is Dangerous LOL


To the OP....while I was NOT on your cruise I must say I didn't find that many rude Europeans on my cruise last November. The "front desk" was the only place..rude staff that seemed to cater to the Italians who didn't just jump the line, they came in the "other end" of the line, ignored the line and would rush up to the front desk LOL

I found the rest of the staff really nice, very polite, helpful and cheerful. Most all spoke English, no real problems. Many of the workers are Indonesian and they are a bit more reserved than the Filipino fun loving crew on Carnival but they really were nice

[AmoMondo]

Originally Posted by misterscrubs

By all means there were Europeans whom made the Cruse an exception. I am sorry if I generalized all Europeans(some Europeans) I retract the statement that the staff was dimwits wrong choice of words. Sometimes you write and don't think it through.

Thank you.

[GOLDENBONNY]

Originally Posted by misterscrubs

Been on the MSC Poesia last week Feb 11-18 2012, and what an experience that was. Yes I read all the posts and do agree to disagree. Case in point when you enter a buffet line, you do not shove your way through and not say excuse me in your language or enter the theater late and come into a seat and barge through, without saying something. I offered to get up and let someone into a seat and I could not move fast enough for the impatient and rude Europeans.
The staff are dimwits( No English whatsoever. Do they not leave from Ft Lauderdale, Florida USA. You ask them a simple question and they look at you like you have 3 heads. Or they just say NO or refer you to the reception desk. Do they wear blinders and just do not think? No manners either. ie..will not hold a door open for you or help you. Learn ENGLISH FOR STAFF. Manners are Manners and if you want American people to come on their cruise-ship, bend a little or leave from the Caribbean and not the USA.

LOL thats new ,now unhappy american cruiser wants staff to bent for him.

[monicajay]

Originally Posted by misterscrubs

Been on the MSC Poesia last week Feb 11-18 2012, and what an experience that was. Yes I read all the posts and do agree to disagree. Case in point when you enter a buffet line, you do not shove your way through and not say excuse me in your language or enter the theater late and come into a seat and barge through, without saying something. I offered to get up and let someone into a seat and I could not move fast enough for the impatient and rude Europeans.
The staff are dimwits( No English whatsoever. Do they not leave from Ft Lauderdale, Florida USA. You ask them a simple question and they look at you like you have 3 heads. Or they just say NO or refer you to the reception desk. Do they wear blinders and just do not think? No manners either. ie..will not hold a door open for you or help you. Learn ENGLISH FOR STAFF. Manners are Manners and if you want American people to come on their cruise-ship, bend a little or leave from the Caribbean and not the USA.

I for one am happy they leave from the USA. Much easier to get to than the Caribbean. I did not have this experience last year and have booked again for next winter. Our biggest problem was all the Americans complaining all the time. Although we are English, we sometimes switched to French so others wouldn't make conversation with us, didn't want to hear all the whining.

Maybe you best chose another cruise line and leave MSC to those of us who enjoy it and don't expect the whole world to speak English.

[MTL=CRUISEFAMILY]

Originally Posted by monicajay

Although we are English, we sometimes switched to French so others wouldn't make conversation with us, didn't want to hear all the whining.

Bonjour Monicajay
LOL, I do this too.
Not just on cruises, but to hagglers on the beach, pushy salespeople etc.