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Old January 18th, 2010, 02:10 PM
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Old January 18th, 2010, 02:43 PM
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Yes, the ships should go. There are a lot of people who depend on the ships for their living. As long as their visits do not interfere with the rescue efforts more ships should be encouraged to visit the other side of the island not effected by the earthquake.
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Interesting article in todays Guardian here in the UK.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...iti-earthquake
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For those who don't feel comfortable enjoying themselves while so close to "utter devastation", how far away do you have to be to feel comfortable. Jamaica is not that far away, and it is the next stop. And even in the best of time, the people of Haiti are suffering.

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Yes, the ships should go. There are a lot of people who depend on the ships for their living. As long as their visits do not interfere with the rescue efforts more ships should be encouraged to visit the other side of the island not effected by the earthquake.

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Of course the ships should call at Labadee! It's secured and nearly 90 miles from the ravages of quake damage in the capitol.

Staying away robs locals around Labadee of their living -- they sell artworks, etc., at the property whenever a ship is in port. Kids come from nearby villages in little kayaks, hoping passengers will drop 'change' from upper decks and the kids dive for it.

Halting port calls at Labadee now would be akin to avoiding tourist areas of Southern CA after a quake in the region. Would it have been prudent to stay away from Disneyland in Anaheim because the San Fernando Valley was a mess? NO! The state needs the revenue and no one is done any favors by those who feel discomfort at vacationing somewhere nearby.

Tourism is/was one of the things Haiti had going for it -- don't take it away from them!
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The guardian article is ridiculous and even carries an old picture misleading as it is to fool readers into thinking all ships still anchor in the bay!

Read this article on Haiti ...

http://travel.sky.com/inspiration/blogs/Cruise-Diary
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Not stopping in Hati will not aid the people of Port Au Prince one whit. We should not change our tourist plans because of the tragedy to one part of the country. Tourism, relief supplies and money from the cruise companies are all good things for Hati. Add the prayers and well wishes to the ship's Hatian crew and may miracles happen for the people of Hati. Meanwhile, let's visit Hati and help the local economy any way we can. Withdrawing the tourist visits would just be another blow to Hatians.
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For those who don't feel comfortable enjoying themselves while so close to "utter devastation", how far away do you have to be to feel comfortable. Jamaica is not that far away, and it is the next stop. And even in the best of time, the people of Haiti are suffering.
Yes of course the ships should go To Labadee and take as many supplies as they can. As for the people who say that they couldn't enjoy themselves near such a disaster should remember how lucky they are to have homes, families, food etc to go back to. Maybe they should be thinking of how they can help the people of Haiti instead of only thinking of themselves. I would not enjoy the rest of my cruise if I had not tried to help in some way.
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There is a real danger that RCI could be perceived as benefiting from Haiti's misfortune by sending cruise ships to the country. A case of 'business as usual' is all well and good but this does tend to feel like RCI are helping the economy & those affected by the quake in Haiti...but at the same time as maintaining their profit margins by sending ships full of guests with healthy wallets and appetites there.

Dangerous ground...quite literally IMHO.

Jane Archer has mentioned this thread in her blog on the Travel Weekly website, I added my comments there too. The amount of money RCI earns could be used much better and more effectively by them chartering freighters to send greater amounts of aid & supplies.

CCL have donated $5m but are not sending their own ships to deliver it.

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[quote=Goldryder;22747952]There is a real danger that RCI could be perceived as benefiting from Haiti's misfortune by sending cruise ships to the country. The amount of money RCI earns could be used much better and more effectively by them chartering freighters to send greater amounts of aid & supplies.quote]

I live in New York City. After September 11, New Yorkers truly appreciated the first groups of tourists that came to visit our city. Relief and reconstruction for a devastated community is needed in all forms. I think RCI made the right decision.
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There is a real danger that RCI could be perceived as benefiting from Haiti's misfortune by sending cruise ships to the country. A case of 'business as usual' is all well and good but this does tend to feel like RCI are helping the economy & those affected by the quake in Haiti...but at the same time as maintaining their profit margins by sending ships full of guests with healthy wallets and appetites there.

Dangerous ground...quite literally IMHO.

Jane Archer has mentioned this thread in her blog on the Travel Weekly website, I added my comments there too. The amount of money RCI earns could be used much better and more effectively by them chartering freighters to send greater amounts of aid & supplies.

CCL have donated $5m but are not sending their own ships to deliver it.
Congratulations. You are the first person I have seen try to turn delivering much need supplies into a negative.
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Royal Caribbean is doing the right thing by continuing to Labadee...especially since they are delivering the equivalent of two cargo containers of relief with each visit! As far as I know, no other cruise line is doing anything...and they sail right past Hispanola on their way to other ports of call...

To all of the people who are criticizing RCI for stopping and allowing passengers to enjoy a beach day--what is the difference between that and all the resort visitors enjoying their vacations in the Dominican Republic? It's the same island!

RCI employs about 300 people in Labadee, not including the 200 licensed vendors who sell their wares in the markets. They are not only delivering aid, but also much needed revenue to the local economy.
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Last night I spoke with my friend that works on Liberty of the Seas. Today will be the first time they've been to Haiti since the earthquake. He said the ship is loaded with supplies and the crew has donated items and money.

At first, I thought it was in poor taste for RCCI to continue to go to Labadee but since reading blogs and articles about the efforts that RCCI is doing and speaking with my Liberty friend about how the crew feels about helping the people of the country then I think it's a no-brainer that they should continue to go there.

If ships stop going then that is income that Haiti is without, not to mention the Haitian people that RCCI employs on the days the ships are there.

I know first hand that the captain and chef have no problem giving food to the people ... I saw it myself last January.

It's a win-win situation for everyone involved.
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I can see both points but it's not like RCL is just dropping of its cruisers on the beach - they are bringing supplies etc to the area. No one has looked at the other side either, the cruisers are providing money to the area and I'm sure that some of those living/working their must have family in the disaster area. Who's to say that the money the locals are making isn't going to support their family caught up in the disaster. Without the cruisers they wouldn't have money and wouldn't be able to help anyone else.

For the person who mentioned "CCL have donated $5m but are not sending their own ships to deliver it." Isn't that business as usual for them. Nothing against carnival as I just cruised them but no one can say what Carnival would have done if Labadee was one of their ports.
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For those who don't feel comfortable enjoying themselves while so close to "utter devastation", how far away do you have to be to feel comfortable. Jamaica is not that far away, and it is the next stop. And even in the best of time, the people of Haiti are suffering.

I agree. and what about the poverty in our own countries/cities?
sorry...but the rest of the world is NOT going to shut down. there is devastation happening all over the world. The fact is, life goes on.
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Has anyone asked, how the cruisers on board the ships feel about Haiti as a port of call right now? True, Haiti sorely needs the tourists and help-but the timing is way off and insensitive, callous and shameful.
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Has anyone asked, how the cruisers on board the ships feel about Haiti as a port of call right now? True, Haiti sorely needs the tourists and help-but the timing is way off and insensitive, callous and shameful.
Some have chosen to remain on board.

So you think it is insensitive, callous and shameful for Royal Caribbean to continue to bring income to a country that desperately needs it. Why?
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its just so sad to see how some people have thought that a cruise ship docking at Haiti at this very desperate time is anything but a positive ..

while the cruise ships are bringing in new money, supplies and some relief to the island .. how is this a bad thing? i really just dont understand it ..

" how can i enjoy myself while something like that is going on 100 miles away ? " so, does that mean you're sitting at home crying, praying and just plain sad all the time ?

seriously .. get over yourself
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I also think that RCI is doing the right thing by their cruise ships at are still docking at Haiti. I prefer some other lines, but often have cruised with Royal - and I am looking for another cruise for next year with them because of many things - and their treatment of Haiti is near the top. Bravo RCI. This diamond cruiser is happy with what they are doing.
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Some have chosen to remain on board.

So you think it is insensitive, callous and shameful for Royal Caribbean to continue to bring income to a country that desperately needs it. Why?
Because, as the song says- there is a time for every season-would you want people frolicking at the cemetery, while you are laying your loved ones to rest- staying on board ship while it is in Haiti, would be for me even worse-as I would feel even more helpless, so close and yet immobilized to help-I'd feel compelled to go and jump ship to help with the rescue efforts.
Yes, of course RCCl should resume Haiti as a port of call, but NOT NOW!
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