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Old March 14th, 2012, 07:50 AM
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In America you don't have all of the cruise ships leaving from ONE PLACe, you have it from all over the country, and i think whats so likeable about the gold coast, is that is a nice place to base your trip around, with the theme parks, the beaches and the shopping, it can really add to a holiday
In America, their market is also so much bigger. They also don't cover all ports and have cancelled sailings from smaller ports due to lack of demand, but overall they can cover more cities - half of all cruisers worldwide are from the US!

They've tried smaller ports like Newcastle and really struggled with demand. Even larger ports like Brisbane and Melbourne aren't swelling with business.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 01:02 PM
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Exactly. Look at Florida alone, you have Ft Lauderdale, Miami, Port Canaveral and I think another one I can't remember the name of..... too late for my tiny brain.....

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The US has a population of over 300 million people ( the ones they can count at least!) - we have 20 million.

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In America, their market is also so much bigger. They also don't cover all ports and have cancelled sailings from smaller ports due to lack of demand, but overall they can cover more cities - half of all cruisers worldwide are from the US!

They've tried smaller ports like Newcastle and really struggled with demand. Even larger ports like Brisbane and Melbourne aren't swelling with business.
Im just saying its a start, the cruise industry is booming there is no doubt, so why not try and expand, the thing is, with ships coming and going from places like the gold coast its not like you have 10 from ft lauderdale, 8 from Miami, 6 from port canaveral, 2 in San Diego, 4 in Los Angeles, 8 from Vancouver (these numbers are no where near accurate) you get my point, it would just be refreshing for there to be more options to cruise from
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Im just saying its a start, the cruise industry is booming there is no doubt, so why not try and expand, the thing is, with ships coming and going from places like the gold coast its not like you have 10 from ft lauderdale, 8 from Miami, 6 from port canaveral, 2 in San Diego, 4 in Los Angeles, 8 from Vancouver (these numbers are no where near accurate) you get my point, it would just be refreshing for there to be more options to cruise from
I see where your coming from and it would be nice, but probably unlikely
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I see where your coming from and it would be nice, but probably unlikely
I know,
I think the main reason I want the cruise industry to keep expanding is because i don't want to have to travel half way across the world to experience new and entertaining cruise ships, along with safe and comfortable world class terminals
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may be if can do Cambell gets in he may be able to get rid of the 86 billion dollor bill QLD has. and then we may get this terminal
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Im just saying its a start, the cruise industry is booming there is no doubt, so why not try and expand,
As said, they have with Newcastle, Fremantle and Auckland being recent new additions, none of which went well. Brisbane and Melbourne also had increases to service - but again, haven't established themselves so well.

Given Brisbane is so close to the Gold Coast and demand at Brisbane isn't overwhelming, why go to the trouble and expense of building separate itineraries out of the Gold Coast? They're so close that I doubt too many people would only go to one and not the other if they were interested in a particular cruise.
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As said, they have with Newcastle, Fremantle and Auckland being recent new additions, none of which went well. Brisbane and Melbourne also had increases to service - but again, haven't established themselves so well.

Given Brisbane is so close to the Gold Coast and demand at Brisbane isn't overwhelming, why go to the trouble and expense of building separate itineraries out of the Gold Coast? They're so close that I doubt too many people would only go to one and not the other if they were interested in a particular cruise.
Also- with places like Newcastle, Fremantle and Auckland, it was a relatively inexpensive exercise to "suck it and see" - run some itineraries out of these places to determine whether there is any demand - not much cost involved because the wharf facilities are already there.

BUT - with the Gold Coast, hundreds of millions of dollars would have to be spent before ships could go there - what if the exercise proved unsuccessful - who would bear the cost of the unused facility??

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As said, they have with Newcastle, Fremantle and Auckland being recent new additions, none of which went well.
What a load of nonsense.
Those cruises went very well.
The company ran the number of cruises from those locations
that their research and previous experience told them were appropriate
to the respective population numbers.
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There were some VERY heavy discounts offered for the cruises out of Newcastle - and, as is said" The proof of the pudding is in the eating" . It seems that many of these cruises are now off the menu!!

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What a load of nonsense.
Those cruises went very well.
The company ran the number of cruises from those locations
that their research and previous experience told them were appropriate
to the respective population numbers.
As said by Barry, the discounts were proof of the pudding - necessary due to the number of vacancies remaining. Added to that was that each of these ports had sailings discontinued. When the demand is there, they will be able to continue those voyages each season.
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Ron Clarke, the former Gold Coast mayor, is running as an independent in the current Queensland state elections. Anything to get political attention when you don't belong to a major political party - enough said!

Local people in the vicinity of Main Beach, The Spit, Wavebreak Island, and South Stradbroke Island on the Gold Coast do not want a cruise terminal on the Gold Coast.

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Quite ironic and certainly a rich comment given the destruction to the natural environment caused by the over development of all those people of Main Beach, The Spit, et al have caused by moving up there in the first place. You do realize before the 1960's people were saying the same thing about the area you now call home......
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