Posted May 3rd, 2012, 12:31 PM
Would you have any links to the reports of the 63% figures, as the 106% for Carnival came off of their annual report. Of my 3 cruises I would say the only one that wasn't almost if not completely at capacity was the Liberty OTS, which was it's inaugural cruise. Sometimes the cruise lines do not book fully on inaugurals so the bugs can be worked out without a full passenger load. I would guess about 80-85%.
Also, do you know how the percentages are arrived at? A lot of people, not necessarily you, in the past wondered how the percentage can be more than 100%. The percentage is based on double occupancy. As an example, I believe the Fantasy has a DO of 2,500 with a maximum of 4,000. If it sails with 3,000 passengers, the occupancy rate would be at 120%. If you were aware of this I apoligize, but other people might not be aware.
Thanks for this. As I have never been, and might never be on a Carnival cruise, I don't understand his rudeness. My DB, SIL and 2 small children (4 & 2) have been on 3 Disney cruises and are DVC members. My children are 25 & 22 so RCCL suits our needs better, but anytime they come down to WDW we do our best to meet them there to spend a day with them and the young-uns.
See Gregg,you gave me a education. I did indeed not know how those figuires were arrived at and now they make more sense. Thanks for your help.
Now....over time I have been told that DCL ship average 85% full.....which for the Fantasy with a 4000 capacity would be about 3400 passingers.
I only remember the report from the Cruise industry converence......and earlier reports of those 85% and 63% figuires.
My real point was to show DCL ship were generally sailing fuller then most lines.....even at the higher price, showing people will pay for the better (and specailized) cruise.
Don't you love how staticies can be made to show what you want!
My issue with this post really was the title.it was inviting a arguement. I have found on these forums that people have their favoratie lines and get very passionate about them, as I am about DCL and Disney in general, Walt is a personal hero to this old ex deep water sailor!
I maybe wrong, but I do find some people love to put down DCL and the only thing they can point to is the price, which has been noted on various boards is not always true, depending on the time of year and vessels.
I have no problems with RCL,Princess, Celebrity, etc, but I must admit my opinion is based on the boards and my industry reading......I dont care for the NCL operation especailly the Dining, from friends who have.
I do have a problem with Carnival line and the drinking, party crowd...just not for us. 2 short cruises of being woken at 0200 did that.
I also feel Carnival Corporation has some real operational and policy issue on how they run some of the lines both on the vessels and in the offices.....they have had way to many casulities over the last 2-3 years. This includes the Splender, Allegre, and QM2 fires, the Concordia, and the still in question Star princess not stopping to pick up that fisherman.
What I am hearing from Maritime friends, reading and my sea time, something is really wrong in Carnival Corp.
No problem over the 2nd post..I have been known to get snearky now and then.......but this is starting to go way past the line.
Beside us DVC (93) owners need to stand up for eachother..LOL..
I am hoping to talk my wife into a NYC/Bermuda trip on RCCL next year..but shes a stronger DCL fan then I am!