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Old February 10th, 2013, 10:16 PM
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They've had fires on Ecstasy and Tropacale not to mention the fires they've had on their Princess line. Not sure if they owned Cunard back during the Norway incident. I don't think age of ship is the biggest factor here.
They also had a fire on the Celebration in the mid 90's that left the ship afloat for several days before they could tow it to San Juan. Last February the Costa Allegra had an engine room fire that left the ship dead in the water and had to be towed.

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They've had fires on Ecstasy and Tropacale not to mention the fires they've had on their Princess line. Not sure if they owned Cunard back during the Norway incident. I don't think age of ship is the biggest factor here.
We were due to sail on the Norway a month after the fire. When we heard of the fire it was scary. Glad we were not on it when it happened.

I agree. Where are they seeing the ship is listing.
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feel bad for the passengers on the Triumph right now. no power at all and basically no bathrooms. that goodness the Elation was nearby.
To use the bathroom?

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Old February 10th, 2013, 10:17 PM
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I refuse to sail on anything newer than Destiny if I return to Carnival.
I haven't read much about engine fires/propulsion issues on older Fantasy Class ships. I'm sure theres been a few problems, but most of these issues I read about are on ships built after Destiny.
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Old February 10th, 2013, 10:18 PM
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Lots of babies will be born 9 months from now
No power, no AC, no showers or flushing toilets....Can't speak to your situation but I'm pretty sure my DW would not be interested in any activity that could result in babies.
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Old February 10th, 2013, 10:20 PM
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They've had fires on Ecstasy and Tropacale not to mention the fires they've had on their Princess line. Not sure if they owned Cunard back during the Norway incident. I don't think age of ship is the biggest factor here.
Too much bad info to rebut it all but for starters the Norway was owned by NCL when her boilers blew.
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And now get ready for the bytching to begin, I want more, Carnival has ruined my life, I want more compesation than Carnival is giving, even thought Carnival does not have to do much of anything. Carnival always goes above and beyond the requirements.
Ridiculous post!

This is happening far to often in the Carnival Fleet. Instead of blindly defending the corporation, real questions need to asked and answered regarding passenger safety.

Has Carnival scrimped on engineering and safety issues as they have cut back on entertainment and food?

Have officers and crewmen received the best training even if it costs more?

Carnival Corporation has created an environment and reputation of providing the cheapest cruise possible. The question is what does this imply regarding passenger comfort and safety?
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Carnival was just bragging about their largest week of bookings ever, kinda wonder if they will tell us about the largest week of cancellations after this incident in their long list of ship failures!
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Old February 10th, 2013, 10:23 PM
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Ridiculous post!

This is happening far to often in the Carnival Fleet. Instead of blindly defending the corporation, real questions need to asked and answered regarding passenger safety.

Has Carnival scrimped on engineering and safety issues as they have cut back on entertainment and food?

Have officers and crewmen received the best training even if it costs more?

Carnival Corporation has created an environment and reputation of providing the cheapest cruise possible. The question is what does this imply regarding passenger comfort and safety?
Excellent post. This is what I was also hinting at. These "isolat ed" incidents are happening FAR to often within the Carnival corp. It can't be a coincidence.
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Old February 10th, 2013, 10:24 PM
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Ridiculous post!

This is happening far to often in the Carnival Fleet. Instead of blindly defending the corporation, real questions need to asked and answered regarding passenger safety.

Has Carnival scrimped on engineering and safety issues as they have cut back on entertainment and food?

Have officers and crewmen received the best training even if it costs more?

Carnival Corporation has created an environment and reputation of providing the cheapest cruise possible. The question is what does this imply regarding passenger comfort and safety?
Something tells me that this incident is going to open the flood gates for Carnival and not in a good way.

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Old February 10th, 2013, 10:26 PM
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Seems to be a lot of speculation and very little in the way of facts.

I would have loved to have been on Splendor then and Triumph now. A free cruise now and a free cruise later for a little inconvenience.

Carnival is more than generous and typically goes far above and beyond anything required by the cruise contract.
Definitely disagree with this. The statement should read (if it were to actually be accurate): Carnival USED TO BE more than generous and typically, USED TO GO far above and beyond anything required by the cruise contract.

oh yeah, and just a minor inconvenience.
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Old February 10th, 2013, 10:26 PM
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"This is happening far to often in the Carnival Fleet. Instead of blindly defending the corporation, real questions need to asked and answered regarding passenger safety.

Has Carnival scrimped on engineering and safety issues as they have cut back on entertainment and food?

Have officers and crewmen received the best training even if it costs more?

Carnival Corporation has created an environment and reputation of providing the cheapest cruise possible. The question is what does this imply regarding passenger comfort and safety?"

I have been asking the same questions to myself. So many disasters in the Carnival Corp. in the past few years. What gives?
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Old February 10th, 2013, 10:26 PM
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Carnival was just bragging about their largest week of bookings ever, kinda wonder if they will tell us about the largest week of cancellations after this incident in their long list of ship failures!

I doubt very seriously there will be mass cancellations. I am sure any cruise line that had their largest week of bookings would have made that public even RCCL. Let's just be thankful that no one was injured or killed.

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Old February 10th, 2013, 10:26 PM
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They've had fires on Ecstasy and Tropacale not to mention the fires they've had on their Princess line. Not sure if they owned Cunard back during the Norway incident. I don't think age of ship is the biggest factor here.
Two recent and major engine room fires does make me wonder if there's a problem at Fincantieri. If there is, it impacts the whole corporation, not just Carnival Cruise Line. Fincantieri is a major builder for other brands under the Carnival umbrella, and many of the ships share a same basic hull and design.
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Carnival Corporation has created an environment and reputation of providing the cheapest cruise possible. The question is what does this imply regarding passenger comfort and safety?
After the Concordia incident, I'm sure safety is always number 1. Any cruise line and especially Carnival.

Maintenance though is in question especially considering the timeline of Triumph's issues.
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I have always felt that cruising is a safe vacation, but hearing that this is the second time this has happened to a Carnival ship in a short space of time, I would hope that whomever governs the safety of passenger vessels leaving the US (because I hear it is not the TSA), would insist on a fleet wide mechanical and fire safety inspection of Carnival's engine rooms.

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Of course it's not the TSA. They have nothing to do with mechanical safety of planes, either.
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Really? And why is that? Quite basic to parallel their grids after you connect. You would need some transfer switches along with sync and protective relays of course. Also have to have the proper programming mode set up for the governor and sequencer. They use 4 power cables and a neutral.
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Those ships are not docked, there on the ocean, and they have to keep a good distance apart from each other.
Could you imagine the size and weight of a cable large enough to handle an electrical load needed to make a difference on the Triumph, multiplied by the length needed to span the distance between the ships.
Even if there were such a cable and it could be of use, it doesn't seem like 1 ships power generating capabilty would be so oversized as to be able to handle the requirments of 2 ships.

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Events happen. That is life. No one injured, no one died. Carnival is stepping up to the plate. Nothing to look at here. Move it along folks.

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I know of a number of sane people who would love to be on that ship.
I am one of those people. I will be sailing on Carnival in 12 days and I can't wait!!
No one is in danger right now. They have food and drink. They have 3 extra days to sit on the Lido looking at the beautiful ocean. Carnival is compensating them very, very well. A bad day at sea is better than a good day at work, cold and snow. Crap happens. Just go with it.
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Old February 10th, 2013, 10:31 PM
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Events happen. That is life. No one injured, no one died. Carnival is stepping up to the plate. Nothing to look at here. Move it along folks.
Actually there is a lot to look at here. Why is this sort of event becoming a common occurrence within the Carnival Corporation? Definitely NOT something to be pushed under the rug
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