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Old May 6th, 2013, 09:02 PM
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Just wondering when it will come to the time when cruise ships will not turn around and do a search...if they are going to be sued for saving someone. I am not sure how the Captain can be positive someone went overboard, unless actually seen by people or unless cameras are all along the ship to monitor??
More and more laws (lawsuits) are being done to protect ourselves from doing stupid things then finding someone else to blame and pay!
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Old May 6th, 2013, 09:09 PM
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Old May 6th, 2013, 09:11 PM
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They came back, found her, rescued her, and she's suing them? Guess it takes all kinds to make a world. I love the way the lawyer says it's not about her making poor choices.
I agree! I mean, I feel sorry for her but where's her accountability in this? She was blistered drunk on LI iced tea...she fell overboard and they came to get her, saving her life.

I've had balcony cabins 12 of my 13 completed cruises and I cannot imagine anyone just "falling" over the balcony rail. I'm 5' 11" and I can't imagine just slipping and falling over the side.

I'm trying to rationalize this. If she was leaning over the rail to look at the ship and her feet slipped out from under her wouldn't she had slid down on the balcony instead of falling over?
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Old May 6th, 2013, 09:16 PM
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Yes, really. Every bartender should know when a patron should no longer be served. Bartenders everywhere struggle with actually applying this. We've had a number of lawsuits in our town where people say they are not liable because they were overserved. In many cases the bartender has been held responsible. My opinion is bartenders should do this as a courtesy, but people are responsible for their own actions.

The balcony railings come up to my chest...they are 3/4 of my height! I know I'm short, but I feel like only Kareem Abdul Jabbar could honestly trip and fall over one of these. I just checked pictures, and they are at my husband's waist- again, it would take a lot to fall over one.

Carnival's actions saved this woman's life. I hope they win the case and counter sue!
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Journalism dying or already dead?
It is dead. My journalism teacher is rolling over in her grave, but there must be some law proffessors grinning and wringing their hands, I am ashamed of what a greedy country we have turned into.

I know that you are not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition. I don't care anymore.
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I know Carnival is having their issues right now and is in the cross hairs of the press because of the Triumph.
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This seems like a lawsuit of opportunity. Kick Carnival while they are down and hope they give us some money. It is no quick task to turn around a ship as large as the Destiny. She should be taking her lucky stars, she didn't die out there because she made a series of bad choices.

This lady better watch out because she may end of having to pay for her recuse costs.
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No, it was on the Destiny last year.
At least it didn't break down before it got to her.
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The bartenders are supposed to be trained to detect when a person has had to much.
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I agree! I mean, I feel sorry for her but where's her accountability in this? She was blistered drunk on LI iced tea...she fell overboard and they came to get her, saving her life.

I've had balcony cabins 12 of my 13 completed cruises and I cannot imagine anyone just "falling" over the balcony rail. I'm 5' 11" and I can't imagine just slipping and falling over the side.

I'm trying to rationalize this. If she was leaning over the rail to look at the ship and her feet slipped out from under her wouldn't she had slid down on the balcony instead of falling over?
They should sue her.
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Turning the ship around for no reason is better than making someone tread water for 90 minutes.
It takes a long time to slow and turn a ship going at cruising speed. There is a guy on here who worked in the cruise ship industry who explained it on previous thread on subject.
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Old May 6th, 2013, 10:18 PM
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Yes, really. Every bartender should know when a patron should no longer be served. Bartenders everywhere struggle with actually applying this. We've had a number of lawsuits in our town where people say they are not liable because they were overserved. In many cases the bartender has been held responsible. My opinion is bartenders should do this as a courtesy, but people are responsible for their own actions.
This was discussed on a previous thread. Someone who is an attorney said that (I'm trying to paraphrase) they didn't know of anyone ever winning for damages to themselves when a third party isn't hurt.
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Old May 6th, 2013, 10:19 PM
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It takes a long time to slow and turn a ship going at cruising speed. There is a guy on here who worked in the cruise ship industry who explained it on previous thread on subject.
I was on the Magic a year ago February and an employee jumped from lido. They turned the Magic around (in pretty heavy winds and seas) and the employee was rescued.
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She acted totally irresponsible and stupid and they saved her so now she is going to sue. Please
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How pray tell would they do that. You are amazing in your jaundiced views.
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Watched the video when it first came up on cruise videos sites and she is very lucky they even found her. I think originally I heard she even had her life vest on which helped them locate her in the dark. Crazy story.
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Watched the video when it first came up on cruise videos sites and she is very lucky they even found her. I think originally I heard she even had her life vest on which helped them locate her in the dark. Crazy story.
She slipped and fell over her balcony with her life vest on?
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Sorry you feel that way, I highly respect you opinions.
LOL thanks.
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