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Old June 3rd, 2013, 11:20 AM
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Thank you so much for your updates. We visited (Budapest to Amsterdam) in November last year and the current photos are heartwrenching. Our prayers are with all those affected. We live in flood country but nothing like this. It's hard to imagine if you've never seen it. Our hearts are with you.
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Just got back from Passau, from an advantage point overlooking the city, it's like a ghost town. People are starting to be evacuated from the old town, electricity, water, gas have been turn off also no toilets working (maybe we should rename Passau into "Carnival Passau").

The original measuring equipment stopped working this morning at 12.20 m (can you guess work happened to the equipment - it got flooded), auxiliary measuring equipment has been installed and it now stand at 12.80 m. Through binoculars I could see and read the Watermark Table on the Town Hall that I posted in a previous message - there was nothing to read all the other markings were under water. The year 1501 has been beaten - so now we will have a new tourist attraction.

The high water mark is expected sometime this evening / tonight. More tomorrow.

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Just got back from Passau, from an advantage point overlooking the city, it's like a ghost town. People are starting to be evacuated from the old town, electricity, water, gas have been turn off also no toilets working (maybe we should rename Passau into "Carnival Passau").

The original measuring equipment stopped working this morning at 12.20 m (can you guess work happened to the equipment - it got flooded), auxiliary measuring equipment has been installed and it now stand at 12.80 m. Through binoculars I could see and read the Watermark Table on the Town Hall that I posted in a previous message - there was nothing to read all the other markings were under water. The year 1501 has been beaten - so now we will have a new tourist attraction.

The high water mark is expected sometime this evening / tonight. More tomorrow.

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Thanks Ron for your updates - you're providing an excellent real time view of what's going on.
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It is so sad. We were just there 2 weeks ago on the AMAPrima standing right next to that flood marker. Our thoughts and prayers are with all the folks impacted by these floods!!
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Bratislava is awaiting the flood wave coming down.

Germany is now done with the very worst of it, all the more so because the rain is letting up.

Passau now has a record-breaking flood, 12.20 Metres has been beaten easily, and although automatic data transmission from the sensors has now failed, authorities are sure the record flood from the year 1501 has been beaten. That make this a milennium-size flood.
Looking at aerial pictures, the streets across old town now look like canals connecting the Donau and the Inn. We were walking around there just weeks ago - it looks absolutely alien.

The good news: starting tonight, water levels are predicted to drop.
THANKS UKBayern for the update, it is helpful to hear from someone close to the situation.

My heart goes out to those people impacted by the floods.

I will continue to watch the news reports for the next 2 months before our first river cruise on the Danube.
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Just got back from Passau, from an advantage point overlooking the city, it's like a ghost town. People are starting to be evacuated from the old town, electricity, water, gas have been turn off also no toilets working (maybe we should rename Passau into "Carnival Passau").

The original measuring equipment stopped working this morning at 12.20 m (can you guess work happened to the equipment - it got flooded), auxiliary measuring equipment has been installed and it now stand at 12.80 m. Through binoculars I could see and read the Watermark Table on the Town Hall that I posted in a previous message - there was nothing to read all the other markings were under water. The year 1501 has been beaten - so now we will have a new tourist attraction.

The high water mark is expected sometime this evening / tonight. More tomorrow.

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Thanks, Ron, for the update. This information is helpful for us who are planning a river cruise soon.

I feel so sorry for those affected by the flooding and for the families who lost their loved ones.

Stay safe!
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The webcam seems to be running and these pics look same water level as the pics Ron just posted.

http://www.webcam-4insiders.com/en/w...au-weather.php
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The webcam seems to be running and these pics look same water level as the pics Ron just posted.

http://www.webcam-4insiders.com/en/w...au-weather.php
Looks like the web-cam cut out around noon on Monday. But - this is certainly an interesting site. You can go back for 3 days, and click on various times --> and SEE how quickly the water rose in the town.

Very tragic...

I remember when we were there 4 years ago, our guide commented on past flooding. She said she remembered the last "big" flood - and how her Dad was involved with the rescue crews. They were taking people out by boat from upper windows!!!

She also thanked us for coming to see Passau. She indicated that tourism was a big part of the economy there. I would hope that the river boats put Passau back on the itinerary once it is safe to do so.... I would hate it if the people were hit with a decrease in tourist dollars, as well as trying to recoup from the flood.

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Looks like the web-cam cut out around noon on Monday. But - this is certainly an interesting site. You can go back for 3 days, and click on various times --> and SEE how quickly the water rose in the town.

Very tragic...

I remember when we were there 4 years ago, our guide commented on past flooding. She said she remembered the last "big" flood - and how her Dad was involved with the rescue crews. They were taking people out by boat from upper windows!!!

She also thanked us for coming to see Passau. She indicated that tourism was a big part of the economy there. I would hope that the river boats put Passau back on the itinerary once it is safe to do so.... I would hate it if the people were hit with a decrease in tourist dollars, as well as trying to recoup from the flood.

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I posted that link on two of these threads and forgot to comment that yes, the webcam did atop working. To see the slideshow of rising water was amazing...in an awful sort of way.

I share your thoughts about Passau as i was there this past Dec and loved the town.
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Hello from Passau, currently it is overcast and 8°C BUT it is not raining.

The Danube level has fallen overnight, at 7:00 am this morning it stood at 11.95 m, forecast are

10:00 1150 - 1175 m,
12:00 1110 - 1140 m,
15:00 1045 - 1090 m,
18:00 1005 - 1055 m,

Up stream from Passau, towns are reporting increase in water levels, hopefully there is not another surge on it's way.

Tomorrow the weather forecast (if you can believe it) says sunny with a temperature of 20° C - so keep your fingers crossed.

On a more lighter note, last night it was rumoured that free beer was being delivered door to door (could be as Passau with 50000 inhabitants has four breweries). In fact beer tanker trucks (for delivery beer to the bottling plants) were being used to deliver drinking water to those areas where the piped water had been turned off. Also being used are the police monster water cannon trucks normally used to disperse crowds.

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Official peak level for Passau (according to the city website) was 12,89 metres, yesterday evening.

Water level in Passau is dropping, 11,80 (as of 8 AM local) and expected at 10,80 before evening. (so that concurs with Ron's prediction table)

1200 people from the emergency services and military are currently involved and starting cleanup.

state roads B 8 and B 85 have been re-opened for traffic
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Latest Danube level at 12:00 was 11.25 m, the level forecast has be revised (upwards) but the levels are still expected to fall (just not so quick).

Even those cruisers who are being bussed to their next destination could also now be affected, the Autobahn between Passau and Regensburg (A3) has been completely closed in both directions at Deggendorf (precautionary measure) as an embankment on the Danube looks like it could give way at anytime.

The following photo shows the current situation in Passau's old town, the suspension bridge in the background is the infamous bridge where if the Danube rises just a little then ships cannot pass under it. This time the bridge is not to blame for cancellations.

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Many thanks Ron, ukbayern and ingo-o for your on location reporting with charts, links and your photos Ron.

All of us here on CC who have been to Passau and other ports on the danube share in your country's disaster albeit from thousands of kilometres away. Somehow hearing things in your words helps bridge the gap and fills in the void of information that our news coverage misses out.

Heres hoping sunnier and drier days are soon to come.
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Danube level now at 10.85 m (14:00) in Passau, so the level has receded 2 m in the last 14 hours, so 2 down and 6 to go.

Tomorrow, the weather is expected to be sunny and 20° C, which bring the next problem with it. The Danube has left behind inches of mud and sludge, this has to be removed before it dries out and sets as hard as a rock. Passau's town council have already set up large garbage containers at various point around the stricken area, soldiers and many volunteers are cleaning up the streets and helping property owners clean up. Everyone is helping each other where they can, a great camaraderie atmosphere.

Now waiting notification as too when we can get to DD apartment, we have borrowed 2 dryers and 2 de-humidifiers but of course the electricity needs to be restored. Wondering what our eyes will be greeted with. DD will be staying with us for the time being, could have been worse - could have been dear MIL staying with us.

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Danube level now at 10.85 m (14:00) in Passau, so the level has receded 2 m in the last 14 hours, so 2 down and 6 to go.

Tomorrow, the weather is expected to be sunny and 20° C, which bring the next problem with it. The Danube has left behind inches of mud and sludge, this has to be removed before it dries out and sets as hard as a rock. Passau's town council have already set up large garbage containers at various point around the stricken area, soldiers and many volunteers are cleaning up the streets and helping property owners clean up. Everyone is helping each other where they can, a great camaraderie atmosphere.

Now waiting notification as too when we can get to DD apartment, we have borrowed 2 dryers and 2 de-humidifiers but of course the electricity needs to be restored. Wondering what our eyes will be greeted with. DD will be staying with us for the time being, could have been worse - could have been dear MIL staying with us.

Ron
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Thanks so much for the updates. Glad you can still find the "bright side" re: MIL.
It's no good crying and being full of self pity, it's happened and we have to get on and back to normal asap.

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Found this recent video of fly over Melk....Abbey looks high and dry but the lovely city is pretty damp.

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If you look at the walls of the second picture, you can see the water line as it is darker so it appears as others have reported, the water is receeding in Passau.
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Today in Passau, we have sunny warm weather and 21° C, where the water has receded the clean up is in full swing. The Danube level is stagnant at 10.05 m foe the last 12 hours and are forecast to remain so for the next 6 hours.

Once the Danube has it's normal water level (4.50 - 480 m in Passau), movement down stream towards Linz, Melk, Vienna and Budapest should be OK. The problem will be up stream towards Regensburg where the Danube has burst it's banks and other embankments are so water logged that they could go anytime, here the river could be closed or traffic restricted until repairs are made.

When I was in Passau yesterday evening it was like a war zone, sludge and rubbish everywhere. The first photo shows German soldiers using snow shovels to remove the mud, second and third photos shows Passau and GIs from 261st US Infantry Regiment shortly after they liberated Passau in early May 1945. Not a lot of difference.

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