Posted June 12th, 2017, 03:10 PM
Last edited by Globaliser; June 12th, 2017 at 03:16 PM
I was, in general, surprised to look on TFL and find that on the weekends, getting to central London or the other way (for Trinity Buoy Wharf) is more difficult than I thought, with Clipper service starting a bit later than I expected. With the DLR, there appear to be earlier and other options, plus 2 buses from across the Thames and through the tunnel that take me right to the wharf. But I'm probably better off taking the options with fewer changes, and least navigating, so I'm looking mostly at the Clipper for my day and a half Sat. afternoon to Sunday adventures.
Actually, having a deeper dig into the TfL website, I see that it's giving misleading information. It looks like there is no DLR between Poplar and East India on Saturday. So if you're going to Trinity Buoy Wharf, then DLR to Heron Quays and Jubilee Line to Canning Town looks like your better bet. It is a surer thing than trying to do it by bus.
The late start for Thames Clippers at the weekends is really due to its market - leisure trippers. Most people who want to get somewhere will be using some other form of transport. With the first DLR into town from Cutty Sark being at about 0530, there's no difficulty in getting into town! There is a distinct market for Thames Clippers as a commuter service during the weekday early mornings, but even so it's pretty specialist. You have to both live and work close to Thames Clippers piers for it to make sense, especially at the prices that they charge.
Is there any public transportation pass that's good for a 24 hour period, or only starting 9 AM and running until midnight or 9 AM next day? If I want to take first Clipper at 8:55, would I be able to use any pass or day card?
There is a pass called the one-day Travelcard which is valid on the Tube, DLR, London Overground, TfL Rail, most National Rail trains running within the TfL area, all TfL buses and the Croydon tram. I think that any Travelcard is valid on any TfL bus, but everything else is zonal so you have to pay more to travel in more zones. Cutty Sark is in both Zones 2 and 3. The one-day Travelcard is valid for any journey starting at or after 0430 on the day printed on the ticket up to 0429 on the next day. These times are fixed, so you can't get a pass starting at 0900 that's valid for 24 hours from then.
Travelcards are not valid on Thames Clippers, which have their own fare system. This includes their own day pass, the River Roamer, which is valid from 0900 for the remainder of that day. (I presume that it includes all travel until end of service on that day, but because it's an off-peak ticket I doubt that it has a validity period of 24 hours.)
However, if you have a Travelcard, you will get a 1/3 discount from Thames Clippers on standard single tickets, River Roamers (and season tickets it seems, FWIW).
Instead of a one-day Travelcard, you could buy a prepay Oyster card which is a stored value card. If you pay for travel on the TfL services on which you could use a Travelcard, you will be charged a cash fare for each journey subject to a cap for each day's travel, the value of which depends on the travel which you actually make. This means that you don't have to work out in advance which zones you're going to travel in. If (for example) your travel is all within Zones 1 and 2, the cap that is applied is the Zones 1-2 rate; but if you also do some travel in Zone 3, then the card will automatically apply the cap at the Zones 1-3 rate. The "day" for Oyster capping is the same as for the Travelcard: 0430 to 0429.
At the present time, the daily Oyster cap for central and inner London zones is significantly lower than the cost of a one-day Travelcard. The smallest zonal coverage of a one-day Travelcard is Zones 1-4; this is now £12.30. However, the daily Oyster cap for Zones 1-2 (the usual ambit of most tourist travel) is £6.60.
If you have an Oyster, you can use the value to pay for Thames Clippers trips. You will also get a discount for doing so. However, on the assumption that you'd be using a prepay Oyster instead of a Travelcard, you need to be aware that the discount for using an prepay Oyster is lower than the discount given to Travelcard holders and it varies according to where you're travelling on Thames Clippers.
TfL price caps and Travelcard prices are here: http://content.tfl.gov.uk/adult-fares-2017.pdf
Thames Clippers prices and discounts are here: http://www.thamesclippers.com/assets...d577c6428a.pdf
and here: http://www.thamesclippers.com/route-time-table/prices
If you have a contactless credit or debit card, you can use that in lieu of a prepay Oyster card. Fundamentally, the prices are the same for payment with contactless as with prepay Oyster (including the daily cap). However, it does mean that you do not have to have the hassle of paying a deposit for the Oyster, and of getting the deposit and unused value back when you have finished with the Oyster. A contactless card, if you have one, is probably more convenient for a visitor than using a prepay Oyster. However, I get the impression that US-issued credit and debit cards rarely feature contactless payment. See https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payment...ss?intcmp=8257
A further option, which basically works in the same way as contactless, is using a mobile phone that is set up to make contactless payments. TfL accepts Android Pay, Apple Pay and Barclaycard & Barclays Contactless Mobile and bPay. See https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payment...ctless-payment