UK cruises, new gratuities

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#21
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It is now getting completely out of hand. The public sector in the UK have had their pay frozen now for nigh on 5 years. This hike has raised the gratuity by 17% in one year . The whole arguments about gratuities are beginning to grate. This fee can no longer be classed as a gratuity or tip..........it is clearly to pay staff wages.
It is about time Princess came clean and gave a very clear breakdown of how much each crew member receives from the gratuities and also what would 'prevent' them for receiving the promised gratuity. My husband and I worked out the gratuities, (not including the 15% drinks gratuities which on top of hiked drinks prices is now making the cost of drinks prohibitive), paid by all passengers on a daily basis. We then divided that amount by the average number of crew who would be eligible to receive that gratuity and it worked out to be thousands upon thousands of dollars per year. I no longer beleive that Princess give all the 'gratuities' to its eligible crew and will find any little discrepancy to rob them of the promised gratuity. Pay the correct salary for hours worked and leave gratuities to be given by passengers for outstanding serivice as it should be.
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#22
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If a room steward receive $5 per person a day from the share of the fixed gratuities and he services approx 17 cabins he is earning $170 a day tax free. That's approximate $46000 per 9 month contract. Just as a guide the average income in the Philippines is $2800 a year.
#23
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I've really never participated in or paid much heed to conversations about gratuities, until now. There are some very well thought out posts on this thread. I agree that it is getting out of hand, regardless of where you live.


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#24
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Originally posted by sunsetbeachgal
I've really never participated in or paid much heed to conversations about gratuities, until now. There are some very well thought out posts on this thread. I agree that it is getting out of hand, regardless of where you live.


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I'm with you.

It just doesn't make sense if you compare P&O's Britannia to Royal Princess. Identical ships with crew and passenger numbers but Britannia's auto gratuity is half.
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#25
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Presumably there is nothing to stop people going to reception and adjusting the gratuity to the old rate?
It is getting out of hand, especially as British cruisers have also been hit with a huge drop in £ to $ exchange rates.
The gratuity rate should be honoured at the rate prevalent when the cruise was booked, i.e. when the contract was made.
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#27
UK
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Originally posted by SadieN
You're looking for an excuse not to tip.
You're hurting the wrong people. The gratuity staff have NOTHING to do with the fares. Want to hurt Princess, don't book a Princess cruise.

Cruise lines have all sorts of promotions. We never seem to qualify. On rare occasions we'll encounter a California resident one. Think I've seen two in 10 years for the cruises we want to book. The other promotions are rarely on cruises we want to sail. Last promotion we booked was about 3 years ago.
You are correct but I'm sure if gratuities went up to $21 a day per person the attitude may change on that side of the Atlantic
#28
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Originally posted by Glenndale
Presumably there is nothing to stop people going to reception and adjusting the gratuity to the old rate?
It is getting out of hand, especially as British cruisers have also been hit with a huge drop in £ to $ exchange rates.
The gratuity rate should be honoured at the rate prevalent when the cruise was booked, i.e. when the contract was made.
The drop of the pound is the fault of your government, not Princess. When people from the US visit the UK, things are much more expensive than at home due to your extremely high taxes on everything. But if you can't afford to pay, you can't afford to go. Take a cheaper vacation.
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Originally posted by joeyancho
The drop of the pound is the fault of your government, not Princess. When people from the US visit the UK, things are much more expensive than at home due to your extremely high taxes on everything. But if you can't afford to pay, you can't afford to go. Take a cheaper vacation.
The vote to leave the European Union also contributed to the decline.
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#30
Leicestershire, UK
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Originally posted by joeyancho
The drop of the pound is the fault of your government, not Princess. When people from the US visit the UK, things are much more expensive than at home due to your extremely high taxes on everything. But if you can't afford to pay, you can't afford to go. Take a cheaper vacation.
I don't need a lesson in Economics from you, thank you.
Nor do I need advice on whom I should book with.
You are rather quick in making assumptions about my financial position, which is of no concern of yours.
You have made no effective contribution to the debate, so why did you bother posting?
The brochure for my upcoming cruise quoted a gratuity rate of $11.50, this was what I contracted to pay. Is that too difficult to understand?
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Originally posted by Glenndale
I don't need a lesson in Economics from you, thank you.
Nor do I need advice on whom I should book with.
You are rather quick in making assumptions about my financial position, which is of no concern of yours.
You have made no effective contribution to the debate, so why did you bother posting?
The brochure for my upcoming cruise quoted a gratuity rate of $11.50, this was what I contracted to pay. Is that too difficult to understand?

Unless you prepaid gratuities, cruise lines reserve the right to increase gratuities. Never seen an immediate increase. When both Princess and Carnival have announced increases, they've given enough time for pax to prepay at the older, lower rate.

Economically speaking, the US has a transparent sales tax.
Blame goes to your fellow countrymen who voted for Brexit. That fiasco is causing panic and the plummeting of the pound.
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#32
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Originally posted by joeyancho
The drop of the pound is the fault of your government, not Princess. When people from the US visit the UK, things are much more expensive than at home due to your extremely high taxes on everything. But if you can't afford to pay, you can't afford to go. Take a cheaper vacation.
The tip fee has doubled since we booked the cruise, so something may have to give for some passengers who have already booked
#33
Ontario, CA (The one WITH the Palm Trees!)
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Originally posted by antsp
The tip fee has doubled since we booked the cruise, so something may have to give for some passengers who have already booked

Isn't there an option to prepay the gratuities?
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#34
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Originally posted by antsp
The tip fee has doubled since we booked the cruise, so something may have to give for some passengers who have already booked
When did you book, 1990?
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#36
Ontario, CA (The one WITH the Palm Trees!)
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Originally posted by antsp
May, gone from £7 a day to £10.60

That just over 50% increase, not double.
Weren't you given the option of prepayment?
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#37
Victoria, BC
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Joined Oct 2001
I don't think anyone should use the exchange rate as a reason to reduce tips. The exchange rate is just a fact of life when you are travelling to other countries. It's not just the poor Brits that have been impacted by a stronger US dollar. I'm Canadian, and when I took a cruise last year the $11.50 daily autotip was converted to Canadian dollars at a rate of 1.10, so it equaled $12.65 Canadian. The new rate of $13.50 US would now cost about $17.96 Canadian at the current exchange rate of about 1.33. That's a 42% increase to the price I pay in Canadian dollars, but I would never think of reducing my tips. The exchange rate is not Princess' fault, and it certainly isn't the crew's fault, and they shouldn't be penalized for it.
#38
UK
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Originally posted by SadieN
That just over 50% increase, not double.
Weren't you given the option of prepayment?
This is something I would never do
#39
Los Angeles Ca.
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Originally posted by antsp
With the weak pound and new raise in daily tips how do you feel about paying £21 a day in tips per couple.
I don't think the new rates are reasonable and will adjust them to $10 PP PD on my next cruise. They are only a suggestion and not mandatory so go to guest services and do what is right for you.
#40
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Originally posted by antsp
The tip fee has doubled since we booked the cruise, so something may have to give for some passengers who have already booked
Originally posted by antsp
May, gone from £7 a day to £10.60
I can't even guess if the numbers you quote are correct.

But, 7 ==> 10.60 is not 'doubled', unless english math
is different than american math.

Or, is this a the billion/million thing?
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