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#41
Lincolnshire
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Joined Mar 2015
I agree with daiB and when we join Britannia in a few weeks for the first time, we'll take her as we find her and enjoy our cruise day by day. Lots to see and do on board and in the ports and hopefully by the end of the first week, we'll be finding our way around and have the timing down to a T for dinner to theatre to live lounge or crows nest and still manage a seat...! We both need to relax and recharge our batteries so will enjoy our hols and just smile!
#43
739 Posts
Joined Jul 2011
Originally posted by tartanexile81
We've got two sets of friends we cruise with regularly and neither of them will go back on Britannia. They find it very hard to describe what it is they don't like and all they can say is they find the atmosphere too 'cold' and impersonal compared to other ships. Funnily enough, they both say exactly the same....... and don't know each other.
That's interesting tartanexile, that was my overriding impression too. I was very excited to be going on P&O's new ship in her maiden Caribbean season, not bothered about the larger size because she's not that much bigger that Azura, which I like, but...
Don't get me wrong, we had a fab holiday and if the price and itinerary were right I'd sail on her again, but she wouldn't be my first choice. Overall the entertainment was fab, the buffet layout a big improvement, MDR food OK but that was all, Beach House lovely, Glasshouse a big disappointment compared to Azura, but I just thought the ship and particularly the Atrium, was soulless. Interestingly teenage son loved her, daughter not so keen, prefers Azura. It's good the CC community are all different and like different things - life would be very boring otherwise!
#44
West Yorkshire UK
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Originally posted by majortom10
From our past cruises with P&O our preference would be as follows:-

1) Britannia
2) Azura
3) Arcadia
4) Aurora
5) Oceana
6) Ventura
7) Oriana
Tom, your rating of Azura and Ventura I find somewhat perverse. I accept that Azura is newer and therefore probably in better shape, but apart from the seascreen on one and the covered pool on the other they are almost identical.
I can only assume that you were unlucky with the staff on Ventura, otherwise the experience should have been much closer.
We have sailed on both and are happy to cruise on either of them if the itinerary and price is right.
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#45
England
511 Posts
Joined Aug 2014
Originally posted by TOMOGP
Up to a point agree with you but the bathrooms are so small, I am 6ft and had to stand outside the bathroom to get properly dried but as stated previously tiny balconies no Prom deck and no Crows Nest far outweigh the better tvs etc.
Another point when we were on 2/3 evenings if we went to the theatre for the early show we would miss something that started halfway through at the other end of the ship.

FWIW the only pando ships we have not been on are Adonia and Oceana

1 Acardia
2 Azura
3 Oriana
4 Aurora
5 Ventura
But Britannia DOES have a Crows Nest! I agree, however, that the balconies are poor and the lack of a promenade deck is a major design flaw as far as the British market is concerned. Even with those major flaws, I still think she provides the best overall cruise experience. As for bathrooms, I don't believe that they are smaller on Britannia. The bathroom in our suite on Britannia was much bigger than in the Penthouse Suite we had on Ventura. And the bathroom and shower in our daughters adjoining standard balcony cabin seemed as big, if not slightly bigger, than in similar cabins throughout the rest of the fleet (all of which are pretty small). The glass door certainly makes the shower more useable. We are quite influenced by the superb Select Dining restaurants on Britannia, which we have found to be better than their counterparts on other ships. We are back on her for two weeks in the summer, so will provide a full review afterwards when we establish whether standards are being maintained or falling.
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B517 Britannia 15/8/15. Mediterranean. 14 nights. Suite.
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#46
Staffordshire
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Originally posted by terrierjohn
Tom, your rating of Azura and Ventura I find somewhat perverse. I accept that Azura is newer and therefore probably in better shape, but apart from the seascreen on one and the covered pool on the other they are almost identical.
I can only assume that you were unlucky with the staff on Ventura, otherwise the experience should have been much closer.
We have sailed on both and are happy to cruise on either of them if the itinerary and price is right.
We did Ventura maiden cruise and although we enjoyed the cruise we have not sailed on her since. We did Azura maiden cruise and then sailed on her 4 more times as we used to love Sindhu, Glass House and XV11 which at the time were not available on any other ship and don't ask me why just preferred the ship and the atmosphere.

They might be very similar now but other than the build Azura and Ventura were very different when they were first launched.

With reference to your comment and the use of the word "perverse" I find it a very insulting and offensive comment to make.
#47
England
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Originally posted by majortom10
We did Ventura maiden cruise and although we enjoyed the cruise we have not sailed on her since. We did Azura maiden cruise and then sailed on her 4 more times as we used to love Sindhu, Glass House and XV11 which at the time were not available on any other ship and don't ask me why just preferred the ship and the atmosphere.

They might be very similar now but other than the build Azura and Ventura were very different when they were first launched.
I can quite understand why people come to conclusions such as this. We didn't particularly like Azura, but went on Ventura the year after and preferred the latter. We struggled to articulate why. The lack of a Crows Nest on both is a major negative for me though as it is our favourite bar on any ship that has one - which includes Britannia!
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674(A) Oriana 14/5/96. Southampton to Istanbul. 8 nights. Outside Cabin.
E620 Oceana 11/8/06. Mediterranean. 14 nights. Outside Cabin.
E720 Oceana 12/8/07. Canaries. 13 nights. Outside Cabin.
X912 Oriana 24/7/09. Baltic. 14 nights. Outside Cabin.
A118 Azura 5/8/11. Mediterranean. 16 nights. Superior Deluxe Balcony Cabin.
N321 Ventura 18/8/13. Mediterranean. 14 nights. Superior Deluxe Balcony Cabin.
B517 Britannia 15/8/15. Mediterranean. 14 nights. Suite.
B622 Britannia 23/7/16. Norwegian Fjords. 7 nights. Suite.
N703 Ventura 15/2/17. Amsterdam & Bruges. 4 nights. Penthouse Suite.

R705 Aurora 13/5/17. Baltic. 16 nights. Accessible Balcony Cabin.
#48
West Yorkshire UK
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Originally posted by majortom10
We did Ventura maiden cruise and although we enjoyed the cruise we have not sailed on her since. We did Azura maiden cruise and then sailed on her 4 more times as we used to love Sindhu, Glass House and XV11 which at the time were not available on any other ship and don't ask me why just preferred the ship and the atmosphere.

They might be very similar now but other than the build Azura and Ventura were very different when they were first launched.

With reference to your comment and the use of the word "perverse" I find it a very insulting and offensive comment to make.
My sincere apologies MT, I was only intending to convey that I felt your rating was illogical in my opinion because of their many similarities. But my comment was in no way intended to be insulting.
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#49
Staffordshire
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Originally posted by terrierjohn
My sincere apologies MT, I was only intending to convey that I felt your rating was illogical in my opinion because of their many similarities. But my comment was in no way intended to be insulting.
Thank you for your apology and accept it gratefully with no intentions on your part.

Our main reason why we cruise is the food and perhaps to put a bit more understanding on our ratings on Ventura they had White Room (Marco Pierre White) restaurant which we didn't enjoy and much preferred XV11 which in our opinion is the nicest restaurant setting and best food we have ever had on a P&O cruise. Glass House on Azura which at the time they didn't have on Ventura as it was a Tapas bar and there was not a Sindhu on Ventura and Indian is our favourite type of food
#50
Cardiff/Hampshire
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Originally posted by majortom10
We did Ventura maiden cruise and although we enjoyed the cruise we have not sailed on her since. We did Azura maiden cruise and then sailed on her 4 more times as we used to love Sindhu, Glass House and XV11 which at the time were not available on any other ship and don't ask me why just preferred the ship and the atmosphere.

They might be very similar now but other than the build Azura and Ventura were very different when they were first launched.

With reference to your comment and the use of the word "perverse" I find it a very insulting and offensive comment to make.
Don't be insulted; I think he meant 'inverse'.
#51
West Yorkshire UK
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Originally posted by NauticalMiss
Don't be insulted; I think he meant 'inverse'.
Never really enjoyed poetry, but I don't want to be seen as too contrary.
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#52
UK
219 Posts
Joined Jun 2006
A bit surprising to see people very upset by the use of the word "perverse" but happy if this is replaced by "illogical" - the two are simply synonyms.
#54
West Yorkshire UK
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Originally posted by NauticalMiss
Gosh, that took me while but I got there in the end
It's the convoluted way my brain works.

But to get back on topic, after viewing yet another Regal Princess video I do have to ask, why on earth did the P&O design team take away all the Wow factor from the Royal design and substitute it with Britannia bland. The atrium on a Princess ship is its focal point and a great venue for all sorts of entertainment, Britannia's would struggle to bring life to a bingo session.
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Future cruises --- May 2017 P&O Azura - W. Med, Sept 2017 - RCI Navigator OTS - Canaries & N Africa.,
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March 92 - Carnival's Carnivale - Bahamas . October 97 - Thomson's Emerald, Med. Nov 2000 - Superstar Gemini, Straits of Malacca. Jan 2004 - Coral Princess - Panama-Carib. June 2005 - Island Princess - Alaska. Jan 2006 - P&O Arcadia - East/southern Carib. Feb 2007 - Celebrity Millenium - Eastern Carib. June 2007 - Tahitian Princess - Honolulu to Papeete. Feb 2008 - Sapphire Princess - Sydney to Auckland. Sept 2008 Emerald Princess - Mediterranean. March 2009 - Coral Princess - Panama Canal. Feb 2010 Celebrity Solstice - Eastern Caribbean . Aug 2011 P&O Azura- Canaries. June 2012 P&O Ventura Iceland & Fjords. Sept 2012 Celebrity Eclipse - Western Med; Apr 2013 P&O Azura Western Med. June 2013 Celebrity Eclipse - Baltic. Oct 2013 P&O Azura - Central Med. May 2014 Emerald Princess N. Spain & France. Sept. 2014 Celebrity Eclipse-Canaries & Azores, Apr 2015 P&O Britannia - W Med. June 2015 Celebrity Eclipse - Iceland & Fjords. Sept 2015 Celebrity Eclipse - Canaries & Azores. Jan 2016 P&O Ventura - No Fly Caribbean. Jun 2016 Eclipse - Baltic. Aug 2016 - Britannia Fjords



#55
Surrey
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Of the four ships that we have been on we would rate them as,

1/ Adonia,

2/ Britannia,

3/ Ventura,

4/ Azura.

Of course non of them can hold a candle to Ocean Village our first cruise.
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#56
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Britannia is definitely a favourite of ours however, after four cruises on her I feel that I can be a bit critical. We personally didn't like the Ventura and it has some what prevented us trying another p and o ship.
#57
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Originally posted by terrierjohn
It's the convoluted way my brain works.



But to get back on topic, after viewing yet another Regal Princess video I do have to ask, why on earth did the P&O design team take away all the Wow factor from the Royal design and substitute it with Britannia bland. The atrium on a Princess ship is its focal point and a great venue for all sorts of entertainment, Britannia's would struggle to bring life to a bingo session.

I much prefer the Emerald Princess atrium to that of Ventura, and from the looks of it, Britannia's as well. Ventura's seems a bit cramped, dark, small, and understated, whereas Emerald's is a bright, showy focal point. P&O may have done better by designing their atriums somewhere in between modern and glitzy.

While Ventura's is nice, I know which one I'd prefer any day.

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#58
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Originally posted by terrierjohn
It's the convoluted way my brain works.



But to get back on topic, after viewing yet another Regal Princess video I do have to ask, why on earth did the P&O design team take away all the Wow factor from the Royal design and substitute it with Britannia bland. The atrium on a Princess ship is its focal point and a great venue for all sorts of entertainment, Britannia's would struggle to bring life to a bingo session.


I did like the decor on Britannia. More like a hotel than a cruise ship. However I agree the atrium has little impact compared to the Princess variant. The pic below reminds me of a shopping centre.

Britannia:


Royal/Regal Princess:



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#59
West Yorkshire UK
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You're spot on Kevin, although I do believe that a John Lewis dept. store is far more glamorous than Britannia's Atrium.
But those 2 photos do show what P&O cruisers are missing, and I do so hope that the team working on the new ship get closer to the Princess style.
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#60
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Personally I much prefer the subtle modern contemporary design of Britannia's Atrium over the loud, brash, gaudy Princess design.