Stopping complimentary afternoon tea in mdr?

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#21
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Originally posted by daiB
Never seen a Champagne fountain in all our cruises.


Seems to me that myths are being put put out there.



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I questioned the champagne fountain and there are pictures of it on this forum Dai, I was surprised.
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#22
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Originally posted by jeanlyon
Oh goodness, I couldn't possibly eat afternoon tea after breakfast and lunch and before dinner. I'm sure a big percentage are like us, so they probably throw at lot away.
Throw food away? Why on earth would you think that.

They are a professional organisation, doing this 365 days a year. They will be pretty damn good at estimating the number of people turning up, so they won't have made sandwiches for the whole ship.
#23
Stoke on Trent, England
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Originally posted by daiB
What a strange post. They still have the chefs parade with the silly waving of napkins and only one ship does not have a prom deck, the new one will have one. There is still afternoon tea in most ships. Never seen a Champagne fountain in all our cruises.


Seems to me that myths are being put put out there.



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Strange me? Never!

The chefs parade is nowhere near as important and they don't wave the napkins unless my eyes are playing up. No prom deck on Britannia (we like her) but it is sad. Afternoon tea will disappear me thinks and re Champagne Fountain ------- well, all of those P&O cruises Dai compared to us, and we have seen something you haven't
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#24
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Originally posted by Presto2
Sorry, but we loved it and the band was about 30 and played for an hour before we left.
They were very good. I remember the tunes now and it made me tearful as it was at a very difficult time for us as a family. It was very special for me and we remember being so excited.

The Champagne Fountain happened - honest - and was an 'Oceana special'. And it really was special. Sorry that you never experienced it.

Just because you didn't / don't value the things above it doesn't mean that others did not.

I hope that you are not referring to us when you mention 'P&O regulars who like nothing more when they go on a cruise to sit and moan about the good old days' as I find that really offensive! I would say that we far from that and generally just get on with it on a cruise and make the most, whatever.

If you read our history below you will see that we haven't done that many cruises on P&O and have also used other lines. Infact, for 2018 we are back to Celebrity. Re the Canberra - if she was the ship that came back from the Falklands I was at school and could only dream of a cruise at that time. Thinking about it, 2010 was like a dream come true.

Please check out the people you are criticising before you reply and judge them.

There is no need

No I was not referring to you when by your own admissions you haven't cruised many times with P&O. I was referring to P&O regulars who are old enough to have cruised on Canberra in the 1990s and still to this day continually talk about "the good old days" and how good Canberra was. If you have seen a band at Southampton containing 30 members and played for an hour then you are very lucky because I have done nearly 30 cruises with P&O since 2000 and have never been so lucky to have seen that not even on 5 maiden cruises and have cruised on Oceana but have never seen one on P&O only Princess. Think you should read my post again because I never criticised or judged anyone and only stated facts that we have seen and our own opinion. Not once did I quote you or refer to you by name or gave the impression I was talking about you.
#25
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Originally posted by CCFC
I questioned the champagne fountain and there are pictures of it on this forum Dai, I was surprised.
Yes, I posted them from Oceana 2003
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#26
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Originally posted by Presto2
Strange me? Never!

The chefs parade is nowhere near as important and they don't wave the napkins unless my eyes are playing up. No prom deck on Britannia (we like her) but it is sad. Afternoon tea will disappear me thinks and re Champagne Fountain ------- well, all of those P&O cruises Dai compared to us, and we have seen something you haven't

Why is the chefs parade not important? People always wave their napkins. I always think it is daft.

The fountain was on Princess last month what a waste of time. They never even used the stuff which was poured.

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#27
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We usually eat at 6.30 so have never had afternoon tea. On our last cruise we decided on second sitting and thought we'd probably need the afternoon tea but we didn't. So I don't think it's something I'll miss at all.
#28
Lincoln, England
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Champagne Fountain

We had one on our first cruise on Oceana in the Caribbean in 2004. It was lovely until you realise they only use about three bottles of champagne and don't fill the remaining glasses. It was just dismantled and all gone in no time, like a market stall disappearing at the end of the day.
I do have a photo of me pouring a bottle into one the top glasses with the Executive Chef.
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#29
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I have seen a champagne fountain on Oceana but don't recall the glasses of fizz being handed out afterwards. If it's the stuff that they serve at the priority boarders lunch (or captains drinks reception) these days then we aren't missing anything. Champagne it ain't!

I fondly remember the military band on the quayside in Southampton which we enjoyed for an hour prior to departure on our first P&O cruise on Oriana in 1996.

I guess that I am a traditionalist and would rather not see the erosion of traditional cruising features but, speaking personally, if anything has to go in order to keep prices down, I would rather it was afternoon tea than many other things. As I have said previously, we never find that we can manage it as well as breakfast, lunch and dinner and it's not very good anyway.

Although we are the sort of people who would prefer to pay a few quid for a better quality product (particularly when it comes to Select Dining Restaurants), I realise that this is not for everyone and I do find it interesting how P&O is evolving in order to fill the vast number of cabins that they have these days.

Whereas there used to be a 'one size fits all' experience, very much aimed (and priced) at the mid-upper market, the core offer is becoming very mass market (and at a comparatively cheaper price) to get 'bums on seats' (as it were) and more premium products (e.g. Select Dining) are offered to retain the loyalty and interest of those who want something more upmarket. I guess that, whether we agree with it or not, it does make sound business sense. They need to attract all customer types in order to fill all their ships every cruise.
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#30
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Originally posted by pisces14
We usually eat at 6.30 so have never had afternoon tea. On our last cruise we decided on second sitting and thought we'd probably need the afternoon tea but we didn't. So I don't think it's something I'll miss at all.
On that basis, I don't use the gym, so let's remove that. I don't use the spa, so let's remove that. I don't use the buffet, so let's remove that. Etc.
#31
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Originally posted by insanemagnet
On that basis, I don't use the gym, so let's remove that. I don't use the spa, so let's remove that. I don't use the buffet, so let's remove that. Etc.
I agree with this sentiment. People seem to think that it is fine when the company remove something that they don't use. Will they be so happy when they take away something that they do use and like?

And to an extent the real issue is (allegedly) removing something else that was part of the brochure offering and included in the price when everyone booked. If I booked Brittania today then according to the current marketing information I still get MDR afternoon tea.

When I booked my cruises earlier this brochure offered complimentary items of room service.

Based on P&O obvious willingness to simply remove items included in the package when holidays went on sale I do really wonder what they will remove next.
#32
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Azura still had afternoon tea only last month, we did not have any but I noticed the sandwiches and little cakes as I passed through one afternoon, and I have to confess I do rather enjoy plenty of jam and cream on the soft warm scones that P&O serve.
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#33
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Totally agree, gradually little by little P & O have eroded what cruising was all about and introduced floating Blackpools. There is room, surely, within the fleet to accommodate that level of service, dress codes etc. But, it all boils down to profits of course.


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#34
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Originally posted by Eglesbrech
I agree with this sentiment. People seem to think that it is fine when the company remove something that they don't use. Will they be so happy when they take away something that they do use and like?

And to an extent the real issue is (allegedly) removing something else that was part of the brochure offering and included in the price when everyone booked. If I booked Brittania today then according to the current marketing information I still get MDR afternoon tea.

When I booked my cruises earlier this brochure offered complimentary items of room service.

Based on P&O obvious willingness to simply remove items included in the package when holidays went on sale I do really wonder what they will remove next.
Well said
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#35
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Originally posted by Millers
Totally agree, gradually little by little P & O have eroded what cruising was all about and introduced floating Blackpools. There is room, surely, within the fleet to accommodate that level of service, dress codes etc. But, it all boils down to profits of course.
I believe P&O are deliberately going down market and doing everything to minimise costs and headline prices. I don't see this changing within the P&O fleet but now go with Cunard whenever possible. The trouble is, they really only have 2 ships that do anything other than transatlantic so itineraries are limited.
#36
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I put my point about not using it and noticing that few people used it on the few times I did, because I wondered how well frequented it is and whether there is too much waste? And whether this is behind them stopping it? I actually do sympathise with people who like Afternoon tea in the MDR as there is more of a sense of occasion there than in the buffet without going to the extremes - and the expense - of the Eric Lanlard option, which for some is just far too sweet anyway. As usual on this forum, people can't resist having digs against those who have a different point of view.
#37
Scotland
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Originally posted by Teddy123
I believe P&O are deliberately going down market and doing everything to minimise costs and headline prices. I don't see this changing within the P&O fleet but now go with Cunard whenever possible. The trouble is, they really only have 2 ships that do anything other than transatlantic so itineraries are limited.
No I don't see it changing and indeed the move to reduce aspects of traditional cruising seems to be happening more frequently. We now only go with P&O before other ships come into the UK or after (so Spring and Autumn/winter). P&O would have been a first choice in the past but now it is a last resort to an extent.

We are finding that we have to pay a lot more once on board to get anything like a decent cruise, eg most nights in select dining etc. We don't like the Eric Lanyard afternoon tea having tried it, too much and too sweet but I also don't like juggling food in a buffet (and the health implications with some of the habits of other passengers).

For all the new passengers they will attract with the lower headline price I wonder just how many more experienced cruisers will defect to other lines?
#38
Oxfordshire
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My husband and I agree with Selbourne (yet again!) Eglesbrech and Millers - they are right, unfortunately.

The strange thing is that, in lowering the standards generally, they are providing more expensive options, ie. Market Cafe on Britannia, select dining restaurants, Eric Lanlard's AT. Strange. They seem to want to attract the masses, but still expect a certain proportion to pay out quite a lot for extras, which, frankly, we can't see most of them doing.

Why can't they keep some of their ships more traditionally and have others that aren't - they've got enough of them.

If they are not very careful they will lose the core clientele that have been with them for years and years (including us). Mind you, maybe that is what want.

Very sad to be honest.
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#39
Surrey
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We have never had afternoon tea as we usually eat early evening. I know it is afternoon tea but we would have it if it was served early adternoon, say 2 p.m. when you get back from a morning excursion. Or maybe just offer it on sea days instead of doing away with it in mdr altogether.
#40
Gt Britain
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Originally posted by insanemagnet
On that basis, I don't use the gym, so let's remove that. I don't use the spa, so let's remove that. I don't use the buffet, so let's remove that. Etc.
I didn't say they should remove it. I said I wouldn't miss it.