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#42
Valencia, Spain
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Originally posted by Denarius
One general observation on this and similar themed threads.
In the package holiday days of the 1970s our courier was asked by some disappointed holidaymakers why the Germans got better hotels with better food. It was she replied, because they paid more for their holidays. They expected quality and were prepared to pay a fair price for it. We wanted it as cheap as possible, and then complained when we got what we paid for. You could not have the cake and the halfpenny.
Cruising is no different. If you want quality to be maintained you will have to be prepared to pay more. If low prices are your priority, you will have to accept cutbacks to keep prices low. You cannot have it both ways.
That's exactly right.
#43
Batehaven, Australia
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Originally posted by daiB
I know it take a long time for the pigeon to get down under but the sail away fizz is still available. You still get your sheet of paper in the cabin only on this occasion they were delayed being put in the cabins. No panic. And there is still a chocolate on the bed every night.

You can rest easy now.

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Thanks dai, I received the semaphore signal, ah, choccies and fizz still going hopefully, next June/July. 34 nights on Adonia, another 68 choccies for the grandkids, plus a few more from the short Sapphire Princess cruise - pre Adonia B2B. Always declare them at Sydney Airport, the Quarantine dogs love to sniff out cruise company chocs.
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#44
Batehaven, Australia
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Originally posted by Goosebear Mum
I had some Aussie chocolate when I spent 3 months over there. It was oh so awful it put me off chocolate even after I returned to the Uk... think it was a year before I could face any!!!

I believe they add something to it to stop it melting quickly in the heat. I will never ever have Aussie choc ever again.
I do believe Cadbury in Australia put in an anti melting agent. We buy our chocolate in Aldi, same stuff as you get in UK, made in Belgium, Germany, Holland, where ever and very nice too.
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#45
UK
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Joined Jun 2015
Originally posted by NSWP
I do believe Cadbury in Australia put in an anti melting agent. We buy our chocolate in Aldi, same stuff as you get in UK, made in Belgium, Germany, Holland, where ever and very nice too.
Ahh, shall remember that if I'm lucky enough to return, I'll go to Aldi! Though when I was in the Outback I had little choice... that's where I went off chocolate and found the delight of your jelly 'snakes'...
#46
Hertfordshire, United Kingdom
517 Posts
Joined Mar 2005
Originally posted by Denarius
One general observation on this and similar themed threads.
In the package holiday days of the 1970s our courier was asked by some disappointed holidaymakers why the Germans got better hotels with better food. It was she replied, because they paid more for their holidays. They expected quality and were prepared to pay a fair price for it. We wanted it as cheap as possible, and then complained when we got what we paid for. You could not have the cake and the halfpenny.
Cruising is no different. If you want quality to be maintained you will have to be prepared to pay more. If low prices are your priority, you will have to accept cutbacks to keep prices low. You cannot have it both ways.
Couldn't agree more Denarius. If pax want considerably higher standards then they are of course free to sail with Oeania, Regent, Silverseas, Crystal, Viking, Seabourne etc. They might find the prices just a little higher mind you...
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#47
Hertfordshire, United Kingdom
517 Posts
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Originally posted by Selbourne
I drink a lot of tea. I'm not an expert, but I do know that Twinings is a more premium product than PG Tips and is a lot nicer to drink. I also like chocolate and the freebie chocolates of recent years aren't as nice as they used to be. They can't seem to decide whether they are milk chocolate or mint chocolate so have a strange 'somewhere in between' taste, but are more akin to baking chocolate than, say, Cadburys Dairy Milk. The freebie drinks at the priority boarders lunches and Captains Drinks parties etc are now cheap and not very nice plonk. The fizz is about as far removed from Chamapge as a sparkling wine can be and leaves an unpleasant after taste (as does the white - the red is passable).

So, are all these things (and others) cost cutting? Of course they are. It would be naive to think otherwise. But do they prevent me from cruising with P&O? No. Personally, I would rather pay a little more and have more premium products, but I understand that in these highly competitive, cost sensitive times, that isn't going to happen. They certainly aren't significant enough issues to make me switch cruise operator. But, then again, I'm someone who doesn't get upset by the pillows going on the floor when the steward makes the beds, so perhaps I'm not a good barometer
Couldn't have put it any better myself Selbourne - not that I get priority boarding plonk . I always ask for a glass of fizz at the Captain's bash. It is only Prosecco of course but it is better than the cheap wine or watery G&T. Of course, the Twinings they used on board was the 'everyday' Twinings, which is probably only marginally better quality tea than PG Tips.
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#49
Hertfordshire, United Kingdom
517 Posts
Joined Mar 2005
Originally posted by brian1
Prosecco IMO is just as good as champagne,its just made somewhere else.
Certainly can be Brian. I like some Champagnes but I am not a champagne snob. Whilst I enjoy a glass of Lanson or Taittinger, I equally enjoy a nice glass of Prosecco.
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#50
Lancashire... UK
807 Posts
Joined Mar 2010
Originally posted by Britboys
Certainly can be Brian. I like some Champagnes but I am not a champagne snob. Whilst I enjoy a glass of Lanson or Taittinger, I equally enjoy a nice glass of Prosecco.

'fraid I don't like Champagne or Prosecco...doesn't agree with me....makes me burp
#51
West Yorkshire UK
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Originally posted by janny444
'fraid I don't like Champagne or Prosecco...doesn't agree with me....makes me burp
Janny you are supposed to sip it, not guzzle it!
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#52
Lancashire... UK
807 Posts
Joined Mar 2010
Originally posted by terrierjohn
Janny you are supposed to sip it, not guzzle it!
AAhhh....that's the secret....thanks for the tip....will try to remember not to quaff it down like beer
#53
Staffordshire
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Joined May 2011
Originally posted by Britboys
Certainly can be Brian. I like some Champagnes but I am not a champagne snob. Whilst I enjoy a glass of Lanson or Taittinger, I equally enjoy a nice glass of Prosecco.
I am the same, I enjoy the odd glass of Mumm or Lanson but I also like Prosecco particularly with either a dash of Cassis or Lemoncello added.
#54
24 Posts
Joined Aug 2017
Hardly slipping standards but has the occasional towel sculpture created by your Cabin Stewart stopped.
I remember on our first cruise returning to our cabin in the evening and being greeted with an elephant created from a towel at the bottom of our bed.

It’s funny how you remember these little touches.

Our daughter and partner will be cruising for the first time with us in November but unfortunately she will probably not experience this.
#55
Oxfordshire
658 Posts
Joined Jun 2016
Originally posted by P-L-B
Hardly slipping standards but has the occasional towel sculpture created by your Cabin Stewart stopped.
I remember on our first cruise returning to our cabin in the evening and being greeted with an elephant created from a towel at the bottom of our bed.

It’s funny how you remember these little touches.

Our daughter and partner will be cruising for the first time with us in November but unfortunately she will probably not experience this.
On our cruise on Arcadia in July we didn't have one. On our cruise on Adonia in August we had one. They do seem to be becoming less and less. Shame.

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#56
Chesterfield
750 Posts
Joined Jan 2014
Originally posted by P-L-B
Hardly slipping standards but has the occasional towel sculpture created by your Cabin Stewart stopped.
I remember on our first cruise returning to our cabin in the evening and being greeted with an elephant created from a towel at the bottom of our bed.

It’s funny how you remember these little touches.

Our daughter and partner will be cruising for the first time with us in November but unfortunately she will probably not experience this.
I love the towel sculptures but we haven t seen one for a while and I suspect its because the stewards have far more cabins to look after than previously which means they probably just haven t got time.
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#57
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Joined Dec 2016
Originally posted by ann141
I love the towel sculptures but we haven t seen one for a while and I suspect its because the stewards have far more cabins to look after than previously which means they probably just haven t got time.
We had some towel animals at new year on Ventura.
On our last few cruises on RC after giving our cabin steward an extra cash tip on first meeting we had towel animals every night which we never asked for but he did it anyway.
Just a thought but if you like these just give an extra tip and ask your cabin steward to do you towel animals.

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#59
24 Posts
Joined Aug 2017
Originally posted by ann141
I love the towel sculptures but we haven t seen one for a while and I suspect its because the stewards have far more cabins to look after than previously which means they probably just haven t got time.
Yes that’s what we thought.
It may be worth me having a friendly chat with our Cabin Stewart and mention that our daughter is on her first cruise and in the next cabin.

Probably worth a try.
#60
Batehaven, Australia
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Joined Mar 2006
Originally posted by Goosebear Mum
Ahh, shall remember that if I'm lucky enough to return, I'll go to Aldi! Though when I was in the Outback I had little choice... that's where I went off chocolate and found the delight of your jelly 'snakes'...
I hope you do come back, yes Allens 'Jelly Snakes.' delectable and don't bite. lol.
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**Future Cruises**:

Sapphire Princess - 26 May 2018, Scandinavia, ex Southampton - 7 nights.

Adonia: - 3 June 2018, France, Spain & Portugal, ex Southampton - 16 nights
B2B with..
Adonia: - 19 June 2018, Ireland, North Cape, Scandinavia, ex Southampton - 18 nights.

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