Princess LTE fee is a rip off

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Originally posted by -Lew-
Not really... With Airplane mode on and Wi-Fi off, an iPhone does not allow cellular calls, texts, and email to reach the phone. With Airplane mode and Wi-Fi on, iMessage texts and email will function...also communication apps such as WhatsApp work.
Ummmm.... That isn't what people are suggesting. It isn't even what you said people are recommending. Turning on Airplane Mode and then enabling WiFi is exactly the same as disabling data - which is what I said.
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Originally posted by -Lew-
There are a number of apps that allow calling and texting over Wi-Fi. We have never waited for a call while onboard, but outgoing calls work well. Best use of these apps is over Wi-Fi while in port.
I don't even use an app. I got into my phone settings and enable Advanced Calling Features. That allows me to make calls using WiFi. I did this in Canada recently where there is no Verizon service. I called a couple of airlines and had fairly long (and unproductive) calls using WiFi. No charges incurred and no app needed.
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Originally posted by sachielles
It's what princess charged the phone company for using their tower. So this was a Princess surcharged through the phone company.

Which you did not bother to research before your cruise.


Princess does NOT partner with AT&T.


It's listed right on the AT&T website.
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Originally posted by -Lew-
There are a number of apps that allow calling and texting over Wi-Fi. We have never waited for a call while onboard, but outgoing calls work well. Best use of these apps is over Wi-Fi while in port.
Ah - gotcha. VoIP apps.
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Originally posted by Woobstr112G


I'm an early riser. On sea days, I head down to the Piazza for a cup of coffee and some CC posting. I usually head down between 0600 and 0700. 99.9% of the time the signal is great and internet works well for the most part.....


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Originally posted by antsp
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Easy solution for this would be to set your phone to manual network selection, this way your phone will not switch from your own network. No need for airplane mode at all.

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Originally posted by Colo Cruiser
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I guess you've had a sense of humour bypass living in beautiful Colorado, is it the altitude or cannabis.
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Originally posted by WVBill
If your phone is on airplane mode you won't get any telephone calls or texts.
Originally posted by JF - retired RRT
Nope. I get phone calls and texts all the time. Just can't access the internet.
I am curious how you received phone calls and texts when your phone is on airplane mode. Airplane mode turns off the cell service. You must have an amazing phone . WVBill and I have never heard of such a phone in airplane mode that receives phone calls. That is why airlines require phones to be in airplane (duh!) mode during a flight so that it prevents phones from sending or receiving texts or phone calls or trying to access cell towers.
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Originally posted by Thrak
Both accomplish the same thing and the former is easier for many technologically challenged people to understand. Telling them to turn of data boggles them. Telling them to turn on Airplane Mode and then turn on WiFi is something that seems to be easier for many folks to handle. The result is the same either way and there is no hassle telling iPhone folks how to turn of data and then having to tell various Android users how to turn of data.
Well, OK, but why would taking two steps, ie, turn on airplane mode and then turn on WiFi, be easier to explain than just "turn off data"? Is this an iPhone thing? One wonders if the iPhone users have more trouble on cruise ships than Android users?
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Originally posted by RocketMan275
Well, OK, but why would taking two steps, ie, turn on airplane mode and then turn on WiFi, be easier to explain than just "turn off data"? Is this an iPhone thing? One wonders if the iPhone users have more trouble on cruise ships than Android users?
I don't know why but it seems to be true. Having worked in IT for many years I was always boggled that many people can do things one way but an alternate method turns their brains off and they "can't do that". Over the years I found it was usually easier to tell people the methods of doing things that seemed to be easiest for "most people" to grasp. The fact that it makes little sense to me doesn't alter the fact that people seem to work that way.

I just turn data off. It's quick and easy. I've just found that the two step process, while more cumbersome, seems to be better "understood" or at least easier for many to follow. You would be amazed at the mental roadblocks people set up for themselves when it comes to understanding technology. Heck, I can't even get people to understand that their wallpaper is not a screensaver.

As for being an "iPhone thing"... Apple makes me crazy. They give people one way to do stuff. Their way is the only way. GAH! No thanks. I don't like training wheels. Give me something I can tweak and play with and allows me to do things the way I want rather than the one and only way offered by Apple products.
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Originally posted by sachielles
I have an iPhone and this also happened in Europe.


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Princess turns off their cellular when in port, they have to. They can't leave it on or the local population would accidentally roam on their tower. It would also be illegal for them to keep it on. You must have had it on at sea. Your error. I was in Europe last week on Princess and had the AT&T $10 plan. I got a text from AT&T every time it was activated when I turned my iPhone off of Airplane mode in port.
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Originally posted by myfuzzy

Also, I live a few miles from the Canadian border. When I drive to a certain area, I have to put my phone into airplane mode, because it seems that the closest tower is in Canada, even though I am driving in the US. If I don't watch I could end up having international and roaming charges if I were to receive a call.
It sometimes works both ways. We are U.S. citizens but at one time we also had a home in BC. We used our US cell phone in BC to contact people back home with no roaming charges. Apparently the service we were using had a stronger signal than the local one everyone else in our area of BC were using. When calling locally, we just used our local land line. Saved us a lot of money.
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Originally posted by Thrak
Ummmm.... That isn't what people are suggesting. It isn't even what you said people are recommending. Turning on Airplane Mode and then enabling WiFi is exactly the same as disabling data - which is what I said.
You're correct, I phrased that sentence incorrectly. It should have been written, With Airplane Mode on and Wi-Fi active.

I see your carrier is Verizon; I'm on AT&T. On its support site Apple states settings can be different for various carriers. The settings I outlined work for me and your settings work for you. Let's just leave it at that...
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Originally posted by Thrak
I don't know why but it seems to be true. Having worked in IT for many years I was always boggled that many people can do things one way but an alternate method turns their brains off and they "can't do that". Over the years I found it was usually easier to tell people the methods of doing things that seemed to be easiest for "most people" to grasp. The fact that it makes little sense to me doesn't alter the fact that people seem to work that way.

I just turn data off. It's quick and easy. I've just found that the two step process, while more cumbersome, seems to be better "understood" or at least easier for many to follow. You would be amazed at the mental roadblocks people set up for themselves when it comes to understanding technology. Heck, I can't even get people to understand that their wallpaper is not a screensaver.

As for being an "iPhone thing"... Apple makes me crazy. They give people one way to do stuff. Their way is the only way. GAH! No thanks. I don't like training wheels. Give me something I can tweak and play with and allows me to do things the way I want rather than the one and only way offered by Apple products.
It just seems intuitive to me that the best way to avoid huge charges for data is to "turn data off". But, then, I know what hollerith cards were used for. I never understood the attraction to the over-priced apple products either.
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Remember the good old days, cell phones just made phone calls...... and computers were the only way to connect to the internet..... and beside it is a holiday.....

Me a have a basic cell phone ( no camera ) which I use only for phone calls....

time for another G&T after reading all this Don
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Originally posted by Thrak
Ummmm.... That isn't what people are suggesting. It isn't even what you said people are recommending. Turning on Airplane Mode and then enabling WiFi is exactly the same as disabling data - which is what I said.
No it isn't. Disabling Data disables just cellular data, but still leaves wifi, Bluetooth, cellular telephone and SMS active. Turning on Airplane Mode disables all of those those plus cellular data.

So turning on Airplane Mode then enabling wifi is NOT the same as disabling data.
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Originally posted by frugaltravel
I am curious how you received phone calls and texts when your phone is on airplane mode. Airplane mode turns off the cell service. You must have an amazing phone . WVBill and I have never heard of such a phone in airplane mode that receives phone calls. That is why airlines require phones to be in airplane (duh!) mode during a flight so that it prevents phones from sending or receiving texts or phone calls or trying to access cell towers.
Phone in airplane mode "ON", wifi mode "on"

apple phones allow txt messages between iphones through servers. you can also make voice and video calls via an app like whatsapp, or Skype. Use it on flights all the time

on WestJet it is WestJet connect https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/about-...estjet-connect
on Air Canada its Gogo Wifi https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...ard/wi-fi.html
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Originally posted by triptolemus
No it isn't. Disabling Data disables just cellular data, but still leaves wifi, Bluetooth, cellular telephone and SMS active. Turning on Airplane Mode disables all of those those plus cellular data.

So turning on Airplane Mode then enabling wifi is NOT the same as disabling data.
You can use Wifi & Bluetooth in airplane mode. It does automatically turn them off, but you can slide them back on and stay in airplane mode
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Originally posted by Cruise Junky
You can use Wifi & Bluetooth in airplane mode. It does automatically turn them off, but you can slide them back on and stay in airplane mode
I realize that.
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Originally posted by triptolemus
No it isn't. Disabling Data disables just cellular data, but still leaves wifi, Bluetooth, cellular telephone and SMS active. Turning on Airplane Mode disables all of those those plus cellular data.

So turning on Airplane Mode then enabling wifi is NOT the same as disabling data.
Thank you...
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