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Old May 27th, 2010, 07:28 PM
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Thumbs down Allure/Oasis compared to Titanic????

Don't really think it's a good comparison,do you??

http://industry.bnet.com/travel/1000...ot-be-buoyant/
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If either of those ships sink, the price of cruising on RCCL will go up exponentially! While I am not a fan of either of those monster ships, I will them no ill-will.
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If either of those ships sink, the price of cruising on RCCL will go up exponentially! While I am not a fan of either of those monster ships, I will them no ill-will.

If either of those ships sink, the oceans will rise wiping out many of us !
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if either of those ships sink, the oceans will rise wiping out many of us !
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Sailed on Freedom and felt it was too big for us, but after a year of the Oasis launch, had to at least try Allure and make our own opinion. Won't mind enjoying the Caribbean and ports of call this December. Unless there is something spectacular, this will be our only cruise on the Oasis class, but would hate to voice opinions and never have sailed the class. I myself say a little prayer about sinking/crashing on every trip I take. So far, so good.
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Well, in comparison to the Titanic, you're much more likely to survive a sinking in the Oasis or Allure.

Her's an interesting fact about the Gulf of Mexico:

"The Gulf of Mexico basin resembles a large pit with a broad shallow rim. Approximately 38% of the Gulf is comprised by shallow and intertidal areas (< 20 m deep). The area of the continental shelf (< 180 m) and continental slope (180 - 3,000 m) represent 22% and 20% respectively, and abyssal areas deeper than 3,000 m comprise the final 20% (Gore, 1992)"



So, considering the the Oasis is 18 decks high (plus about another 20 meters, or so below that), there's a better than 50% chance that were it to sink to the bottom at any point in the cruise, if the passengers and crew would retire to decks 16 and above, they could still dine in the Windjammer with dry feet after the bottom of the ship reached the sea floor.

I don't think the galley on the Titanic stayed open after midnight, if memory serves.
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If either of those ships sink, the price of cruising on RCCL will go up exponentially! While I am not a fan of either of those monster ships, I will them no ill-will.
if either of them sink, Ill bet the opposite, that prices would drop significantly as who would want to sail on a cruiseline whose ships sunk?
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Don't really think it's a good comparison,do you??

http://industry.bnet.com/travel/1000...ot-be-buoyant/
They weren't comparing the ships to the "Titanic". They were using the word titanic in it's simplest definition.

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ti·tan·ic[ tī tánnik ]ADJECTIVE
1. very large or strong: having extraordinary physical strength or size
2. powerful: of extraordinary power, scope, or impressiveness
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If either of them sink I think RCCL has enough insurance out to ensure that they do not face any loss from either ship. Instead though they will face the loss of all of those berths that are no longer available to bring in income for at a minimum 2 years. On top of that the loss of the largest (which often makes people think safest and unsinkable) ship would result in a huge fear of cruising that would drop bookings across all lines drastically. It is that fear that would cause RCCL to fail rather than the loss of the ships.
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If either of them sink I think RCCL has enough insurance out to ensure that they do not face any loss from either ship. Instead though they will face the loss of all of those berths that are no longer available to bring in income for at a minimum 2 years. On top of that the loss of the largest (which often makes people think safest and unsinkable) ship would result in a huge fear of cruising that would drop bookings across all lines drastically. It is that fear that would cause RCCL to fail rather than the loss of the ships.
Not to mention their insurance company subsequently dropping them after a claim of that magnitude. I can't imagine they would be able to insure any of their ships after that...
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Maybe the subject is revelent......but I'm not sure why! Should any ship sink..........and the last cruise line that I know of, sank off of the island of Santorini, a couple of years ago.

It must be getting late for this old guy......the point is?????????

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No point...the OP thought the article was comparing the Oasis/Allure to the "Titanic" and then the thread spun off into cruise ships sinking. *sigh*
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"The Gulf of Mexico basin resembles a large pit with a broad shallow rim. Approximately 38% of the Gulf is comprised by shallow and intertidal areas (< 20 m deep). The area of the continental shelf (< 180 m) and continental slope (180 - 3,000 m) represent 22% and 20% respectively, and abyssal areas deeper than 3,000 m comprise the final 20% (Gore, 1992)"
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Maybe the subject is revelent......but I'm not sure why! Should any ship sink..........and the last cruise line that I know of, sank off of the island of Santorini, a couple of years ago.

It must be getting late for this old guy......the point is?????????

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Boy...........thanks for the link Kathy.........all kidding aside, the financial picture outlined was not pretty at all.
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The "Titanic" reference is just a metaphor. No one's suggesting the ships will literally sink.
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The "Titanic" reference is just a metaphor. No one's suggesting the ships will literally sink.

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They weren't comparing the ships to the "Titanic". They were using the word titanic in it's simplest definition.
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if the passengers and crew would retire to decks 16 and above, they could still dine in the Windjammer with dry feet after the bottom of the ship reached the sea floor.

Maybe it could plug the BP leak by sitting down on top of it.
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Oasis and Allure do not have Gulf of Mexico itineraries.
$The area of the continental shelf (< 180 m)$

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