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My dad was an Army officer, and my mom hated to fly. So when we got stationed in Germany, we went over on the military transport, SS Rose. It was a ten day crossing. That was in February of '62 - from New York to Bremerhaven. We came back in the summer of '66 onboard the SS Buckner - another 10 day crossing. Neither, as I remember, was the lap of luxury, but as a child everything is fun. When my Dad once again got orders for Europe - this time Rome - we sailed on the Constitution. That was in the summer of '68. This was a real cruise ship with passengers sailing from New York to the Med and back again. We were only onboard for 8 days (the crossing, Lisbon, Gibraltar, Palma, Marseilles, and we got off in Naples). I have very fond memories of that trip. My brother and I were teenagers and we had the time of our lives. I heard the Constitution, and her sister ship the Independence, eventually did island hops in Hawaii, and are now both decommissioned. Fast forward to 2008 - after 30 years of marriage I have finally convinced my DH to take me on a cruise! We sail on the Westerdam for 7 days on Nov 16! I can't wait!
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My first ship was the Triton, an Epirotiki ship that sailed in the Greek Islands. The year was around 1989 and it was a portion of a 2 week trip to Greece that included the 5 day cruise. She was an old ship even then.

A friend and I were planning the trip (we were younger and poorer in those days ) and I remember the TA recommending that we upgrade to a outside cabin... we had to go out into the hall to discuss it as it meant spending $50 a person more. We decided to go with the outside and I have never regretted it. One of my favorite photos is still a shot I took looking out our porthole at the ancient ruins of Rhodes.
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Constitution is more than decommissioned, she is on the ocean floor!

She sunk in the Pacific while under tow to the breakers, 12-97.
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I know !! After I posted, I googled her and found out she had sunk while on her way to be sold for scrap in the Far East someplace. How sad! But I also found out - and didn't know - that she was the ship used in my favorite movie - An Affair to Remember, and she was featured on the I Love Lucy Shows when they went to Europe and also, Princess Grace sailed on her to meet Prince Ranier for their wedding. And she was also used for a Magnum PI episode. So even though she's at the bottom of the sea, she lives on! Side bar: I also found out her sister ship, the Independence, was recommissioned and is in Dubai.
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I know !! After I posted, I googled her and found out she had sunk while on her way to be sold for scrap in the Far East someplace. How sad! But I also found out - and didn't know - that she was the ship used in my favorite movie - An Affair to Remember, and she was featured on the I Love Lucy Shows when they went to Europe and also, Princess Grace sailed on her to meet Prince Ranier for their wedding. And she was also used for a Magnum PI episode. So even though she's at the bottom of the sea, she lives on! Side bar: I also found out her sister ship, the Independence, was recommissioned and is in Dubai.



ss Constitution (1951-1997) Built in 1951 by the Bethlehem Steel Corporation of Quincy, Mass. as an ocean liner for American Export Lines, she initially sailed on the New York-Genoa-Naples and Gibraltar route to Europe. She was a sister ship to the ss Independence. Constitution was to become quite a movie star, first being featured in several episodes of the television situation comedy "I Love Lucy" and in 1957, in the film, "An Affair to Remember".

Following service for American Export's "Sunlane" cruises to Europe in the fifties and sixties, Constitution was laid up in Jacksonville, Fl in 1968. In January 1974, both Constitution and Independence were sold to the Atlantic Far East Line Inc. While her sister recommenced sailing from their new home, Constitution, by then renamed Oceanic Constitution, remained laid up at Hong Kong. In 1980, after receiving a refit in Taiwan, she was transferred to U.S. based American Hawaii Cruises and departed for Honolulu, Hi. Upon arrival there, she was re-christened "Constitution" by Princess Grace of Monaco. She commenced inter-island cruising out of Honolulu in June 1982. She also revived her movie career when, in 1986, several shots of the Magnum P.I. episode "All Thieves on Deck," were filmed on her.

In 1996, American Hawaii Cruises decided to retire the forty-six year old Constitution due to high running costs and required renovation and she was laid up at Portland, Ore. While under tow by the Chinese Ocean-going tug De Da to an Asian breaker yard, twelve days after departure, she started to take on water and due to her imminent sinking, the tug's crew cut her loose. On November 17, 1997 she slipped beneath the waves to her final resting place, 700 miles north of the Hawaiian Islands..

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My first ship was the Triton, an Epirotiki ship that sailed in the Greek Islands. The year was around 1989 and it was a portion of a 2 week trip to Greece that included the 5 day cruise. She was an old ship even then.

A friend and I were planning the trip (we were younger and poorer in those days ) and I remember the TA recommending that we upgrade to a outside cabin... we had to go out into the hall to discuss it as it meant spending $50 a person more. We decided to go with the outside and I have never regretted it. One of my favorite photos is still a shot I took looking out our porthole at the ancient ruins of Rhodes.



Cunard Adventurer (1971-present) Delivered in 1971,
Cunard Adventurer was one of a series of small, cruise-oriented vessels the line operated at that time. She operated for Cunard until 1977 when she was sold to Norwegian Caribbean Line and renamed Sunward II. She was sold to Epirotiki Line (Greece) as Triton in 1991 and then passed to the combined Royal Olympic Cruises fleet in 1995. Following the collapse of Royal Olympic, Triton was sold to Louis Hellenic Cruises at public auction in 2005 who renamed her "Coral". She is currently sailing for Louis under that name.






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Thank you so much for posting the pictures and info about the Constitution. Brings back lots of wonderful memories!
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We had a great trip, on Constitution, 12-84, San Francisco to Honolulu, via Los Angeles. She had been in The City getting her bottom scraped and repainted, and was on her way back to Honolulu for her Islands cruises.

1st night, a stowaway was found, taken ashore in Los Angeles in handcuffs (probably a drunk who failed to disembark after a Bon Voyage party in San Francisco).

Rough trip across the Pacific, tablecloths wetted down and lips on tables up in Dining Room in futile attempt to keep plates on tables.

Man overboard call couple nights before Honolulu. Ship turned around, commenced search while head count was done of PAX and crew. No one missing, apparent bad call (good intent). The crew had been dumping garbage (legal in those days), and it was believed someone saw garbage floating, mistook it for a person, and raised the alarm.

Still 24 hrs from Honolulu, USAF/USMC choppers, along with a USAF tanker plane, rendevouzed with ship, and conducted medical evacuation (in heavy seas). Ship's band played martial music in salute, and Captain gave very long blast on ship's whistle in recognition of a job very well done.

Nice ship, Constitution.
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My dad was an Army officer, and my mom hated to fly. So when we got stationed in Germany, we went over on the military transport, SS Rose. It was a ten day crossing. That was in February of '62 - from New York to Bremerhaven. We came back in the summer of '66 onboard the SS Buckner - another 10 day crossing. Neither, as I remember, was the lap of luxury, but as a child everything is fun. When my Dad once again got orders for Europe - this time Rome - we sailed on the Constitution. That was in the summer of '68. This was a real cruise ship with passengers sailing from New York to the Med and back again. We were only onboard for 8 days (the crossing, Lisbon, Gibraltar, Palma, Marseilles, and we got off in Naples). I have very fond memories of that trip. My brother and I were teenagers and we had the time of our lives. I heard the Constitution, and her sister ship the Independence, eventually did island hops in Hawaii, and are now both decommissioned. Fast forward to 2008 - after 30 years of marriage I have finally convinced my DH to take me on a cruise! We sail on the Westerdam for 7 days on Nov 16! I can't wait!

USS Admiral Hugh Rodman (1945-1997) Laid down on 24 April 1944, under Maritime Commission contract at Bethleham-Alameda Shipyard Inc., Alameda, CA. Delivered as USS Admiral Hugh Rodman (AP-126) on 7 July 1945. She was decommissioned on 14 May 1946 at New York and commissioned as USAT General Maurice Rose on 1 August 1946. She was reacquired by the U.S. Navy on 1 March 1950, renamed USNS General Maurice Rose (T-AP-126) and assigned to the Military Sea Transport Service (MSTS). Manned by a civilian crew, she operated out of New York in the Atlantic and the Mediterranean during the next 15 years.

Steaming primarily between New York and Bremerhaven, Germany, she completed more than 150 round-trip voyages while carrying military dependents and European refugees and rotating combat-ready troops. In addition, the ship deployed to the Mediterranean 17 times to support U.S. 6th Fleet operations. Following the abortive Hungarian revolution in October 1956, she completed three runs to Bremerhaven and back between 12 January and 27 March 1957 transporting Hungarian refugees to the United Stares. On three occasions between 1 April and 5 October, she was dispatched to the eastern Med to support units of the U.S. 6th Fleet responding to political crises in Jordan.

General Maurice Rose departed New York on 14 August 1965 for transport duty to southeast Asia. She sailed via Long Beach, CA and Pearl Harbor, Hi to Qui Nhon, South Vietnam, where she arrived on 14 September and began debarking troops and supplies. After departing Vietnam on the 19th, she steamed via Okinawa, Japan and the U.S/ West Coast and reached New York on 18 October.
During the first eight months of 1966, she made eight round-trip runs to Europe and back. On 8 September, she again departed New York for troop lift duty to South Vietnam. She operated in the Western Pacific through the end of 1966. She then returned to New York in late in January 1967 for an overhaul and was placed in ready reserve status.

General Maurice Rose was placed in ready reserve status and laid up in the Cavin Point Army Depot in New York harbor in 1967. She was transferred to the permanent custody of the Maritime Administration on 30 June 1970 and shifted to the National Defense Reserve Fleet, James River, Fort Eustis, Va. On 20 August 1990, she was struck from the Naval Register and in June 1997, she was sold by the Maritime Administration for scrapping by the at the International Shipbreaking Co. at Brownsville, Texas.


Admiral E. W. Eberle (1945-1999) Laid down on 15 February 1943 under Maritime Commission contract at Bethlehem-Alameda Shipyard Inc., Alameda, CA. Delivered as USS Admiral E. W. Eberle (AP-123) on 24 January 1945. She was decommissioned on 8 May 1946 and commissioned into Army Transportation Service (ATS) as USAT Admiral E.W. Eberle. She was reacquired by the U.S. Navy on 1 March 1950, renamed USNS General Simon B. Buckner (T-AP-123) and assigned to the Military Sea Transport Service.

She steamed across the Pacific throughout the Korean conflict, transporting troops and equipment to Japan and other staging areas. General Simon B. Buckner continued operations in the Pacific until 15 February 1955, when she departed San Francisco, bound for New York. Upon arrival two weeks later, she was assigned to the New York-Bremerhaven, Germany runs. During the next 10 years, she made over 130 Atlantic voyages from New York to Bremerhaven, Southampton, England and ports in the Mediterranean.

Departing New York on 11 August 1965, she returned to the west coast, arriving at Long Beach, CA on the 27th to assist in the movement of troops and equipment to southeast Asia. After two cruises to Vietnam, the veteran transport resumed operation in the Atlantic, arriving at New York on 3 December, 1965. During the next eight months, she steamed across the Atlantic 10 times, making stops at Bremerhaven and Southampton. Returning to the west coast in August 1966, General Simon B. Buckner was once again pressed into service to carry war material to Vietnam. She departed San Francisco on 8 September and reached Danang, South Vietnam 20 days later.


Following her return to San Francisco, CA on 16 October 1966, she continued to support American operations in southeast Asia until President Nixon's Vietnamization program decreased the Navy's need for transports. She was returned to the Maritime Administration on 24 March 1970 and laid up in the National Defense Reserve Fleet. She was dismantled in May 1999 at the International Shipbreaking Co., Brownsville, TX
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What a great question! Aside from time in the Canadian Navy, my first cruise with family was on the Oriana - Hawaii to Auckland in the 1960's. Had a great trip. Then we took the Patris (Chandris Lines) to Melborne. The ship was a disgrace as far as cleanliness and caring staff was concerned!! Made me leary of Celebrity since they use the same logo. But the transformation to Celebrity must have been good as we have sailed many times with them and enjoy them almost as much as HAL. To continue, we left Sydney on the old Canberra and finished their world cruise ending up in Southhampton. That was a wonderful cruise as well. Oh well, many good memories. Thanks for the question. Ron
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First Cruise, before marriage was on Hellenic Cruises (AKA Kavounides Shipping Co.) "Orion" 1970 in the Greek Islands..Worked for a European Airline & was able to get a 7 day cruise at a good interline rate..It hooked me for life..Wish I could find a picture, but only have a few slides...But have the mimeographed daily programs & the Capt's dinner Menu..LOL

First Cruise after Marriage, was 1983 on Norwegian Caribbean's "Southward".. Still worked for an airline & had to convince DH & Dear Friends (who also were airline employees) that a cruise is something they would enjoy & never forget..Took me a long time to convince them all & believe they only did it just to get me get off their backs..I'm occasionally like a dog with a bone..We all still talk about that first cruise & our fantastic Waiter & Assistant Waiter..Of course, we're all hooked now! None of us have ever had a bad cruise!

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I was 14 when we sailed on the Constitution. My brother was 13. I remember there being a lot of teens on that ship. After several complaints, we were told we could only use one specific elevator, leaving the rest for the other passengers. I can't recall, but I guess we were all spending too much time going up and down in the elevators. They also confined us to one lounge - the Oak lounge, as I recall. But don't quote me - this was 40 years ago! I do, however, remember very distinctly, that every night we would all cram into one stateroom and order ice cream from room service. I'm sure we drove everyone else crazy! I don't remember any rough days during the crossing. But I do remember having a rough day when we were suppose to tender into Sardinia. Goren the bridge great was onboard, as were an entire group that had paid to learn at his knee. The captain decided, since most of them were quite older, not to attempt to let them board the tenders, so we didn't get to go to Sardinia. And I say, quite older - they were probably my age now , but they seemed old at the time! Other memories include skeet shooting and hot bouillon off the back of the boat in the mornings, the high sided pool with the salt water going back and forth with the motion of the ship, and the guy with the bells that called us to dinner. Do they still do that anymore? Ah, good times.....
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Ours was on the Home Lines' Atlantic from NYC to Bermuda. [Anyone know what happened to her?] Did we get hooked? Just look at my sig! And yet, have never received the same high level of food and service as on the Atlantic. Maybe now on HAL?? I'm hoping, but fear those days are gone forever.
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USS Admiral Hugh Rodman (1945-1997) aka USNS General Maurice Rose (T-AP-126)




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Wow John!! Amazing!! You found a picture of the Rose! Thank you so much!! I hate to look a gift horse in the mouth, but the Buckner picture didn't come through. Any chance you could resend it? What a gift you are to us oldies reliving much earlier days on the high seas! Thank you again! I have forwarded what you sent so far along to my brother in Florida who is enjoying your research as well!
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Fascinating thread John. Thanks for starting it.

Mine was the SS Ariadne, Eastern Steamship Lines, 1964 or 65. Followed the next year by either the Emerald Seas, or the New Emerald Seas, also Eastern Steamshp Lines if I remember correctly.

Then along came the Costa C, The Festival, and many many others, right up to the Eurodam next saturday 10/25. We've had great fun on all of them.

Interesting thing is that I'm not paying a great deal more per day of cruising now than I did way back then, but the quality of the cruise experience is light years ahead of the old days.

Thanks again for this interesting thread.
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