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EPIC REVIEW B2B 9/18 to 10/02


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Following is my review of NCL Epic. First, let me say we took a B2B, Western first, then Eastern. Upon arrival by taxi ($24) from the airport we were greeted by a friendly porter who took our bags and walked with us to make sure we went to the right entrance. He told us it was not necessary to tip him, which was quite a surprise, and, of course, we did. There were people stationed all along the way to point us in the right direction. Check in was quick, but then we were sent to a huge holding area, where it was confusing as to which side we should go.

 

At the front of the holding area was a small table manned by a pleasant young lady with information about the onboard spa. This was perfect as we wanted to purchase Spa Passes and they are given out to non-Spa-deck cruisers on a very limited basis. We then went to sit down and wait. We saw various people being allowed to cross behind a glass wall onto the ship. Later I learned from my own experience that these were the B2B’s, who are forced by law to come off the ship, go through customs and then re-board. They are the last to leave and the first to return to the ship.

 

Next were what I am assuming were the Latitudes members, and then us. We all proceeded towards the ship, stopping first for the obligatory picture. I am amazed at how many people did not take the time to make sure they were not blocking the view of the ship in the background. Ours turned out quite nicely, with a daylight view of the ship as background. We later purchased a night view of the ship to display with it. Most modern cruise ships look big and boxy. The Epic is no different and certainly not bad looking.

 

Upon boarding we were immediately greeted by many crew members. We were most concerned with making a reservation to the Ice Bar and were trying to get our bearings when two officers stopped us to enquire if we needed any help. One turned out to be the Bar Manager, who gave us his card, told us to go have fun, and to call him any time we were ready to go to the Ice Bar and not worry about a reservation. Nice!

 

We proceeded to O’Sheehan’s Pub to try our hand at bowling ($5per) for novelty’s sake. It was fun, we were first and had a nice game. I found the interior of the ship to be pleasantly and elegantly decorated, unlike the garish colors I had seen on my few previous cruises with another line. It is an enclosed interior, with no view of the sea except in the restaurants and reminded me of being in a large elegant hotel complex. I found the walkways to be more than adequate and different seating areas abounded. In fact, it was not until the last day that I bothered to fully explore the area behind Shakers Martini Bar. There is a nice, quiet living room back there, leading to the Humidor Cigar room, which was fully enclosed and devoid of smokers at the time. Because of the layout we never found any of the interior spaces especially crowded at any time.

 

The same can be said of the open air decks. I always saw plenty of seating in both the sun and shade. I did wear beach shoes on deck as it was hot. Since we had Spa Passes we never used the pools or slides except for the Saturday we were among the lucky B2B’s with early re-boarding. At that time we wore our suits and rode the slides over and over. We were actually the only ones using them for quite some time. The Green tube made me dizzy, the Purple tube was nice, but the Epic Plunge was by far my favorite. I did notice there were three sizes and colors of rafts, just as I have seen in water parks. Common sense would dictate that you use the size appropriate for you. An adult should NOT use the pink rafts, as they are for children. Just wait for the right size and you won’t have a problem! When you enter the huge yellow bowl, arch your back a bit to reduce drag and you will go round and round many times!

 

Mandara Spa is wonderful! It is well worth getting a pass. There was an herbal steam room and sauna in each sex's shower/changing areas and another herbal steam room and 2 sauna’s in the co-ed area. That steam room was way too hot, however, so we did not use it. There is a large mineral pool with massaging spouts of water and several bubbling relaxing areas, a hot tub, and many loungers inside and outside on an aft deck. There were also heated tiled loungers which were wonderful to nap on. Hint--When people want to enter the hot tub, move over off the step and let them in. Another Hint--This area is meant for relaxing. I f you want to have a loud conversation in a hot tub, go up top on deck. The Spa offers many services, including acupuncture, which my husband used in a desperate bid to relieve unrelenting knee pain, and it worked! The Spa closed at 10pm and it would be good if they extended those hours.

 

A large Swarovski chandelier hangs in the middle of the public area inside, pointing down into the middle of Taste, the casual sit down free restaurant. The food here is the same as in the more formal Manhattan Room, and is less crowded. Both opened at 5:30pm and I would have preferred Taste to open earlier as we often did not eat in port but wanted to sit down and be served dinner as we were tired. There is a dance floor and live band playing during dinner at the Manhattan Room and it is quite crowded. The band’s playing times are listed in the Freestyle Daily, spanning dinner time and after. They were excellent and I was surprised more people did not get up and dance. Service at both was excellent and we were usually seated at a window. My only complaint is that if long pants are to be required at the Manhattan Room, then torn jeans, ratty T Shirts and flip flops should be banned, period. Either it should be all the way nice--or not…

 

The Garden Café is located on Deck 15 and has multiple identical lines, with some limited lines available outside to bathers. The food selection was good, with plenty of options. O’Sheehan’s is billed as a Pub and could be quite busy. It had wings, sandwiches, fish and chips, bangers and mash, etc. They really should provide wet wipes with the wings, for cleanliness' sake. There is a coffee bar at the Atrium with both free and pay for coffee, and free pastries. Food at all free venues was very good, and I see no reason to pay for the restaurants unless you lack a particular venue in your town. We do not have a Brazilian Barbeque so we ate at Moderno’s Chiascarria. The meats were good, and when the gaucho found out I like the lamb best, he brought me a special plate. The salad bar was excellent, with quite a variety of unusual items. Both Le Bistro and Cagney’s were good, but coming from a foody town, not worth the price to me. It should be noted that the food staff prepares food for 6000+ cruisers and crew at least 3 meals/day, no small feat, and does an admirable job under the direction of Head Chef Anil Kumar, a very nice and approachable fellow.

 

The casino is on deck 6, spanning both sides and down the middle of the only walkway. I noticed several portable air cleaners but they really should not allow smoking in the middle section. Lack of such a small section is not going to keep anything from gamblers and nonsmoking gamblers would surely appreciate it, not to mention nonsmoking passersby. Public bathrooms were plentiful and never busy. Hint--Turn the lock when you enter the stall and people will not walk in on you! Some have motion sensor lights and they definitely needed to be set at a longer interval. The elevators are located at each end of the ship but, quite honestly, the walk from amidships where we were was not at all bad and at least gave us some exercise!

 

We had a regular balcony room, amidships on deck 9, which was covered, and if I wanted to peacefully enjoy the sound and view of the sea, I went there. We also turned off our AC at night and slept with the door open and the soothing sounds of the waves. Yes, these rooms are somewhat tight if you are going to have more than two people in the room. I personally loved the look of the curving walls and soothing colors. Storage was phenomenal, with plenty of space, hangers, a refrigerator and a coffee maker (why make your own when you can get excellent coffee in the Atrium?) We found the bed a bit too firm and our steward was quick to put another pad underneath the sheet. All the stewards we passed in the halls were very nice and greeted us warmly each and every time. Ours was especially good and mysteriously knew whenever we vacated the room. It was always clean and tidy when we returned. We had no problem at all with the sink but they did replace the faucet during the second week. Too bad, it looked nicer before and had more clearance from the sink. I don’t normally wash my face under a faucet but use a cloth so I never had a problem. Our shower never leaked and was actually bigger than the one we have at home. Hint--Ladies, take the small table from the balcony into the shower to use as a rest to shave your legs. The shower head and flow was definitely better than the one we have at home. Toilet flushing sounds were not a problem at night because we do not flush at night anyway, so as not to disturb anyone. Remember, it is a marine toilet. The seat is European and narrow, which took some getting used to.

 

The entertainment is absolutely top notch. Blue Man Group, Second City Comedy Improv, Howling at the Moon, and Legends in Concert are all nationally rated shows. We were lucky that the Legends show changed during our B2B and we saw Madonna, Tina Turner, and Elvis the first week and Rod Stewart, Brittany Spears and Michael Jackson the second week. Jeff Hobson, the comedian magician was from Vegas and very good. Slam Allen in Fat Cats Club was unbelievable and, unfortunately, our last week was also his last week, but I hear he will be back at some point. The Entertainment Director Simon Murray deserves kudos for his work here.

 

The parties were fun. White Hot Party, Fabba, and Zouk were all themed dance parties and meant to be fun. Silas Cook, the Cruise Director does an excellent job, as does his crew. We chose to participate in activities and found that the more you participate, the more the crew gets to know you, and the more personal and fun your vacation becomes! We ended up in many dance videos and ended up buying the DVD of that first week’s cruise ($29.95) It not only has scenes from each event and party but also goes around the ship a bit and does a montage of the cultural tours of each port. I think it is a good buy. Getting all your still photos on a CD for $349 is definitely NOT a good buy and a ridiculous price point. Photos were taken at each port with a theme and the unfortunate thing here is that the themes were the same on the Western and Eastern legs. A Dolphin, a pirate, and a native dancer. It would be better if they would have different themes at each port. As it was, we only bought the photos as a memento of the Western leg.

 

Disembarkation was not bad, as it was staggered, and we did the Everglades Tour on the way to the airport as we had such a late flight. I will also add that this is the first ship I have ever been on that I did not experience some motion sickness. It was excellent, even during rough seas. And remember your attitude will decide how good your experience will be!

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Nice review!

I will also be doing a b2b in a couple of weeks. Did you feel 2 weeks were too long or was there plenty to do the whole time???

 

Also, how did you like the new Legends performers??

The new Legends are great! We actually went to see them twice and two weeks was about right. The first week we went to all the parties and activities and the second week we just relaxed, repeating anything we liked. The ports are so different also. We snorkeled in Costa Maya and Cozumel (the catamaran sail to Palancar Reef was a great time) and did Tabyana Beach and Gumbalimba Park in Roatan. Tabyana Beach was great and while Gumbalimba Park was informative, don't believe the hype about "frolicing" monkeys. There was...one...

St. Maarten we did Orient Beach and while it was pretty, there are no fish there if you want to snorkel. St. Thomas we went to Trunk Bay on St. John to snorkel and it was beautiful--a top 5 beach. We've been to Nassau before and did a self-guided walking tour....

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Nice review! We thought of you often on your second week, wishing we had joined you. It was great to meet the two of you.

Hope you'll share photos on our roll call. It's gotten a lot quieter, but it ain't gone yet!

 

Did you get involved with the roll call from your second week?

 

BTW - for anyone needing to see monkeys in Roatan, the best way is to go thru Victor Bodden. We played with quite a few.

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Just out of curiosity - How much pre-booking of dinners and entertainment did you do ?

 

For example, as soon as the 45 day advance is up do we need to book all of the specialty restaurants we want for the entire week ? Do we also need to pre-book dinners in the "free" restaurants ? As for entertainment; did you pre-book EVERYTHING ? I guess I'm just wondering how much planning of the week we should do in advance....

 

Also, since you mentioned the dress code in the Manhattan room - would you say typically the women were wearing sun dresses or something fairly formal ? (not jeans and flip flops) Wondering what to pack is all and you seem like you might have been the type to dress up a little more so I thought I might be able to get your $0.02

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Just out of curiosity - How much pre-booking of dinners and entertainment did you do ?

 

For example, as soon as the 45 day advance is up do we need to book all of the specialty restaurants we want for the entire week ? Do we also need to pre-book dinners in the "free" restaurants ? As for entertainment; did you pre-book EVERYTHING ? I guess I'm just wondering how much planning of the week we should do in advance....

 

Also, since you mentioned the dress code in the Manhattan room - would you say typically the women were wearing sun dresses or something fairly formal ? (not jeans and flip flops) Wondering what to pack is all and you seem like you might have been the type to dress up a little more so I thought I might be able to get your $0.02

As far as I know, the free restaurants are walk up only. We never had a wait except for the night the Legends performers were putting on a small show at 9:30pm in the Manhattan Room that we wanted to see. I told the restaurant manager ( bypass the front desk girl) that we were flexible, just wanted to eat and stay for the show. He asked if we minded sharing a table and when we said " of course not!" he smiled and walked us down FRONT and CENTER to the dance floor! So close that I had to move my legs a couple times while "Michael Jackson" shimmied past...be flexible and pleasant and there will be no problem.

I did prebook but never saw anyone turned away from shows and actually changed our 2nd Legends show several times, no worries. We did a walk up to Le Bistro and were seated right away but it was early.

I packed a long crinkle skirt w/gold threads in it, 2 nice tops, a wrap and one pair of gold sandals and that was plenty. I never saw a man in a tux, but did see a Kilt. A couple suits but most were in long slacks and collared shirts, like my husband. He packed just the one slacks with a couple collared shirts. Women ranged from short cocktail dresses (few) to sundresses and skirts, to capris and pants.

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Nice review! We thought of you often on your second week, wishing we had joined you. It was great to meet the two of you.

Hope you'll share photos on our roll call. It's gotten a lot quieter, but it ain't gone yet!

 

Did you get involved with the roll call from your second week?

 

BTW - for anyone needing to see monkeys in Roatan, the best way is to go thru Victor Bodden. We played with quite a few.

Hey Birdnutty...I am sailing with your lovely daughter...AKA turtlelover/Zumbaturtle...my daughter and I are doing the monkeys as part of our day with a private tour through victor bodden. We are also doing a couple of other things that day and our friends are going to zipline while we look at the monkeys...

 

Can you tell me if they limit your time with the monkeys?? Because I think my daughter would like to look at the animals the whole time while our friends are doing the ziplinging...which I beleive is at the same location.....is that true???

 

thank you...and come back to our roll call...I requested you yesterday!!!! We like your comments...and we love your daughter:):):)

 

 

 

- cheryl

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The parties were fun. White Hot Party, Fabba, and Zouk were all themed dance parties and meant to be fun. Silas Cook, the Cruise Director does an excellent job, as does his crew.

 

Hey... So glad you had a great time...

I am on the Eastern, what day was the White Hot Party and the other parties? More interested in the White Hot Party... I have the Blue Man Group reserved for Saturday, heard that is the best time to go due to everybody trying to get a fill of ship... When I booked the Blue Man I forgot about the parties.:confused:.. I do not want to miss the White Hot Party...:p don't know anything about the others... but would be interested in going to those too... :rolleyes:

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The parties were fun. White Hot Party, Fabba, and Zouk were all themed dance parties and meant to be fun. Silas Cook, the Cruise Director does an excellent job, as does his crew.

 

Hey... So glad you had a great time...

I am on the Eastern, what day was the White Hot Party and the other parties? More interested in the White Hot Party... I have the Blue Man Group reserved for Saturday, heard that is the best time to go due to everybody trying to get a fill of ship... When I booked the Blue Man I forgot about the parties.:confused:.. I do not want to miss the White Hot Party...:p don't know anything about the others... but would be interested in going to those too... :rolleyes:

 

I was the eastern leg of this trip (9/25-10/2). I'm trying really hard to remember which night White Hot was. I'm pretty certain it was Sunday. Only because I remember it was the dress up or not night, I had dressed up, then changed to more casual later. That was the only night I had changed, and it was into the outfit I had on in my photos from the White Hot Party. However, they may change the nights that they have the different deck parties. I'm not sure that it's constant for the Western Carib and Eastern Carib. Maybe check with Guest Services when you board. We did Blue Man Sat. night as well, the early show. Then dinner. Glad we did the early show so we were free to attend the Welcome Aboard party on deck later.

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Whats really difficult for me to understand is when the best free dinners are (lobster and steak) and when the best free parties are (white hot, jazz band, spiceH2o's biggest night) because i dont want to make reservations to pay restaurants and parties (cirque dreams, ice bar) on the coolest "free" nights!

 

What makes it worse is if you dont reserve quickly and pick dates without knowing youll miss out all together

 

Anyone have any advice ?

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Medtech2...or anyone..

Does anyone know exactly how much alcohol you are allowed to buy and bring off the ship at the end of the cruise?? I have gotten conflicting info and cannot seem to find the correct answer online anywhere:confused:

 

Thanks!!

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Medtech2...or anyone..

Does anyone know exactly how much alcohol you are allowed to buy and bring off the ship at the end of the cruise?? I have gotten conflicting info and cannot seem to find the correct answer online anywhere:confused:

 

Thanks!!

Since you are doing a B2B like we did, you can buy your liquor the first week, pick it up Friday, and have it in your cabin the 2nd week. Also, the limits would be listed under US Customs Regulations and I can't remember as we only bought 6 bottles, and drank one of those on the ship. BTW, I hope you are driving, because American Eagle socked us for $75 baggage fees since we had to check the bag and the booze made it over 50 lbs. We never fly so I really was not prepared for this! It was SO unfair because if we had checked 2 bags it would only have been $50....All I can say is that my husband's $11 rum turned into $21, not exactly a bargain, but a real learning experience for us newbies.

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Since you are doing a B2B like we did, you can buy your liquor the first week, pick it up Friday, and have it in your cabin the 2nd week. Also, the limits would be listed under US Customs Regulations and I can't remember as we only bought 6 bottles, and drank one of those on the ship. BTW, I hope you are driving, because American Eagle socked us for $75 baggage fees since we had to check the bag and the booze made it over 50 lbs. We never fly so I really was not prepared for this! It was SO unfair because if we had checked 2 bags it would only have been $50....All I can say is that my husband's $11 rum turned into $21, not exactly a bargain, but a real learning experience for us newbies.

 

A lesson learned!:) It was so nice meeting you on the trip Medtech! This cruise was soooooo much more than we could have ever expected!:D It ws great putting faces to the names on our Roll Call message board. We're a little depressed right now,:( but will be checking things out for another cruise in the near future!:cool:

Take care,

Be well.

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Nice review!

I will also be doing a b2b in a couple of weeks. Did you feel 2 weeks were too long or was there plenty to do the whole time???

 

Also, how did you like the new Legends performers??

Great question...which group gave the better show?

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Medtech2...or anyone..

Does anyone know exactly how much alcohol you are allowed to buy and bring off the ship at the end of the cruise?? I have gotten conflicting info and cannot seem to find the correct answer online anywhere:confused:

 

Thanks!!

 

It depends on your destination. Western is very limited, 1 bottle per person I believe. Eastern has different rules. I believe the best is St Thomas, they allow the most booze from there. You can surely find out from Guest Services when you board.

 

~Intrepid <-- Mix master!

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Hey Birdnutty...I am sailing with your lovely daughter...AKA turtlelover/Zumbaturtle...my daughter and I are doing the monkeys as part of our day with a private tour through victor bodden. We are also doing a couple of other things that day and our friends are going to zipline while we look at the monkeys...

 

Can you tell me if they limit your time with the monkeys?? Because I think my daughter would like to look at the animals the whole time while our friends are doing the ziplinging...which I beleive is at the same location.....is that true???

 

thank you...and come back to our roll call...I requested you yesterday!!!! We like your comments...and we love your daughter:):):)

- cheryl

 

Aw, shucks,.... you're embarrassing me.... :) But back to the monkeys... Yes, your time is limited a bit. You're assigned a guide who escorts you into each cage, encourages the animals to interact with you, you get to stay maybe 5 - 10 minutes or so in each cage. They don't necessarily rush you along, but they start to move out of the cage when they feel it's time, and you just naturally follow them. The whole thing took us maybe 45 minutes or so. How long your daughter could stay may depend on the size of the tip offered to the guide, with an explanation that she's killing time while the zipline is happening. We could see the zipliners from certain areas of the animal area, so yes, it's definitely on the same property. There is also a small gift shop where you can buy trinkets, water and snacks, too, so that might aid in absorbing some time.

 

Talk to your guide and offer a green lined palm. Maybe it'll help. :)

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Aw, shucks,.... you're embarrassing me.... :) But back to the monkeys... Yes, your time is limited a bit. You're assigned a guide who escorts you into each cage, encourages the animals to interact with you, you get to stay maybe 5 - 10 minutes or so in each cage. They don't necessarily rush you along, but they start to move out of the cage when they feel it's time, and you just naturally follow them. The whole thing took us maybe 45 minutes or so. How long your daughter could stay may depend on the size of the tip offered to the guide, with an explanation that she's killing time while the zipline is happening. We could see the zipliners from certain areas of the animal area, so yes, it's definitely on the same property. There is also a small gift shop where you can buy trinkets, water and snacks, too, so that might aid in absorbing some time.

 

Talk to your guide and offer a green lined palm. Maybe it'll help. :)

excellent advice...see you on 10/30/10 Epic Halloween Cruise thread...don't be late!!!!

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The new Legends are great! We actually went to see them twice and two weeks was about right. The first week we went to all the parties and activities and the second week we just relaxed, repeating anything we liked. The ports are so different also. We snorkeled in Costa Maya and Cozumel (the catamaran sail to Palancar Reef was a great time) and did Tabyana Beach and Gumbalimba Park in Roatan. Tabyana Beach was great and while Gumbalimba Park was informative, don't believe the hype about "frolicing" monkeys. There was...one...

St. Maarten we did Orient Beach and while it was pretty, there are no fish there if you want to snorkel. St. Thomas we went to Trunk Bay on St. John to snorkel and it was beautiful--a top 5 beach. We've been to Nassau before and did a self-guided walking tour....

 

Enjoyed your review very much. Brought back great memories of my B2B on Epic in Aug.

 

Going on Dawn this Sun. for the 12 night repo and our Belize stop has been replaced with Cozumel. Years ago did a snorkel on Palancar and found it quite a drift dive and also very very deep in places so not ideal for snorkeling. I was looking at NCL's shorex and saw that catamaran sail to Palancar. Could you give a little more info? How deep was the water? Did you see hard & soft corals and lots of fish? How was visibility? I realize it can change day to day!

 

We found Trunk Bay to be beautiful but the reef itself was pretty dead and well traveled. Upsetting to see people stand on the coral and kill it.

 

Did you snorkel at Tabyana? How was it? Was the snorkeling equipment included in the excursion? I generally take my own along but was thinking of only taking snorkel and mask this time and using their fins unless there's a charge....also often there's not much to choose from and I can't find my size.:eek:

 

Any further info you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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