Two More Cruise Lines Cancel Mazatlan Calls; Reports of Increased Violence to Blame

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It's interesting. When Disney was the only one doing it, there were people out there calling them worriers, and worse. I've seen postings that were almost hostile toward them for "wimping out" and running.

Now that two other lines have done the same...I wonder if the same level of recrimination will fall upon them.

Good call on their part, though. Better safe than dealing with a security, and PR disaster.
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Originally posted by LauraS
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Two More Cruise Lines Cancel Mazatlan Calls; Reports of Increased Violence to Blame

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Princess and HAL are both owned by Carnival, so it was most likely one high level corporate decision rather than two more cruise lines independently deciding to pull out of Mazatlan.
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Manzanillo is no safer than Mazatlan right now. This is a silly arbitrary decision on the part of the cruiselines. Mazatlan is safe in the tourist areas.
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According to a statement by the Mazatlan Tourist board they are very disappointed that 3 incidents involving only property caused the lines to stop the port calls. Let's see - a honeymoon couple was killed in Antigua, a shore excursion bus in Nassau was robbed at gunpoint but you can still go there. There is no place where you are 100% safe. Even the supposedly secure neighborhood where I live has had driveway robberies and incidents of front doors being kicked in by armed intruders. This might be an opportunity to pick up an inexpensive land vacation in Mazatlan. That is exactly what we did when swine flu hit Mexico - got a steal of a deal at a 5 star resort on the Mayan Rivera.
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We sail on the Carnival Spirit February 9th. Have an excursion scheduled in Mazatlan. Should I be worried? Or we're as safe here as any other foreign port?
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I should think you have no reason to worry. I was there last April, and it was beautiful. I don't believe the current affairs will put you in danger. We are sailing on the Spirit 2/25 and I look forward to getting of the ship in Mazatlan. probably take an open air taxi to the golden zone, and spend the day shopping and enjoying one of the fine resorts there for lunch and a swim. Go, get off the ship, have a good time and don't worrry.
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Have been following this -- really tough call -- should we or shouldn't we go to Mazatlan? As said -- there is just as much crime in the Caribbean and the cruise lines aren't stopping to go to those ports.

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Hi everyone. My husband & I have cruised only 2 times & with Princess cruise lines. We are so brand new to this site.. I want to do this correctly. We are senior citizens just learning this last December how wonderful it is to cruise for the first time without the kids. Our kids are all grown and one son has two grown kids, now married. It was glorious. We sailed on the Ruby Princess. We have just confirmed a cruise out of Ft. Lauderdale, sailing Dec. 17, 2011 to the Southern Carribean. This will only be our 3rd. cruise. We will sail out on the Grand Princess. Does anyone have any information or suggestions?

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we just returned from a Jan 15th sailing to MR including Mazatlan aboard the Sapphire Princess..evidently Princess cancelled the next weeks cruise stop in Mazatlan..
My wife and I sailed with my 85 year old mother, 84 year old mother in law, 23 year old daughter, and 5 year old granddaughter. We had a private tour in Mazatlan with Mazatlan Frank. We saw no problems, and did not at any time feel threatened.
The only police/military we saw was in the port, maybe 10 soldiers all eating breakfast by a small building.
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Thank you so much Pekingese Lady. I'm glad to hear that because of all of our stops, this is the one I was most looking forward to take in some of the Mexican Culture. We will be getting off the ship and feel confident that we are as safe there as we can be anywhere else. Thanks again.
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Originally posted by DebJ14
According to a statement by the Mazatlan Tourist board they are very disappointed that 3 incidents involving only property caused the lines to stop the port calls. Let's see - a honeymoon couple was killed in Antigua, a shore excursion bus in Nassau was robbed at gunpoint but you can still go there. There is no place where you are 100% safe. Even the supposedly secure neighborhood where I live has had driveway robberies and incidents of front doors being kicked in by armed intruders. This might be an opportunity to pick up an inexpensive land vacation in Mazatlan. That is exactly what we did when swine flu hit Mexico - got a steal of a deal at a 5 star resort on the Mayan Rivera.
Just for the record - it is not all property damage. A Canadian was shot while walking down the street having been caught between to rival drug gangs.

The way everyone is talking on here one would think it was kids pranks. It isn't - it's the drug cartels and no one is safe.
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#13
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I for one know that I, nor my children, will not be getting off the ship in Mazatlan!! There are real cartel problems there. I hope HAL will avoid this port. Yes there have been property crimes. But a man was also SHOT, caught between drug wars!
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We booked Carnival's 9 day on Spirit in November. Ports "were" Cabo for two nights, La Paz, Mazatlan and Puerto Vallarta. We received notice of an itinerary change giving the axe to Mazatlan due to the perceived increased risk in violence. Ports are now Manzanillo, PV, Cabo and (***?!!) Ensenada!

Mazatlan has a very nice secured area at the port with shops and eateries. Any risk that exists is outside that compound. It would seem that prudent advisories to clients/passengers is better than taking a port off the travel list especially when substituting it for one of lesser quality. In the instant case, keeping La Paz on the list in the warmer area of the Sea of Cortez is more intelligent that porting in Ensenada on the Pacific cold water side of the trip. Regardless of how Carnival tries to write up the "exciting" port of Ensenada is not a destination for the Riviera minded traveler.