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Old March 22nd, 2011, 11:31 AM
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Default crystal to go all inclusive spring 2012

http://www.cruisereport.com/crNews.aspx?id=1490
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 11:38 AM
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I just read that. Interesting change.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 11:38 AM
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Default That is unfortunate as I do not drink

and do not feel I should have to pay for things I do not use nor condone a habit I do not believe in. I also already have my gratuities paid for by my TA.So it looks like they are going to price many of us out of the Crystal market. I hope they will reconsider this.The only thing Crystal will have over other luxury lines is their much more reasonable single supplement fares...
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 11:53 AM
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Default The Rumor Mill

From the cited arcticle:

"A complete list of 2012 Crystal itineraries, with fares, for all cruises is now posted on Crystal’s website, www.crystalcruises.com, and all cruises are now open for booking. "

After reading that article I went to the Crystal website and found at least one part of the arcticle premature, to say the least. Until I see something more reliable, I'll take this with a grain of salt.

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Old March 22nd, 2011, 11:59 AM
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Correct roy...prices for most of 2012 aren't posted yet...hopefully within the next few hours.

It will be interesting to see how the all-inclusiveness with the wines/spirits and gratuities will be factored into the pricing.

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We are pleased and not surprised by the change to all inclusive. Regent, Seabourn, Silversea, SeaDream are all inclusive, and Crystal may think they need to be all inclusive to be competitive. We never minded signing for wines. Prices were fair. It wil be interesting to see how this will affect the as you wish onboard credit and the prices of the cruises.
In any case we will sail with Crystal as often as we can.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 12:00 PM
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Default There is a link to it on Crystal's facebook page now though

I also already get my gratuities paid for by my TA currently and see no point in making gratuities included(read: Pay the staff and crew a decent salary) and leave gratuities voluntary! I had housekeeping service last year that I do not believe was deserving of a great gratuity at the end of the day(reasons are several and no need to get into now after the fact) but was still stuck paying for it indirectly as it was covered by my TA.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 12:05 PM
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From the cited arcticle:

"A complete list of 2012 Crystal itineraries, with fares, for all cruises is now posted on Crystal’s website, www.crystalcruises.com, and all cruises are now open for booking. "

After reading that article I went to the Crystal website and found at least one part of the arcticle premature, to say the least. Until I see something more reliable, I'll take this with a grain of salt.

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Think it is now "official" See http://www.crystalcruises.com/AboutUs.aspx
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I personally think its about time. It always fascinated me that they didn't even include wine with dinner, with the high fares. (prior to AYW)

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Old March 22nd, 2011, 12:16 PM
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I wonder if Crystal will be offering AS You Wish credits??? While it's great that drinks are included, I prefer to use a credit for what I want to use it for. My TA has included gratuities the past few years. My husband drinks very little and isn't thrilled about drinks included and I am very specific about my wines. Time will tell and I'll wait to see the full details on this change.

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Old March 22nd, 2011, 12:26 PM
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Correct roy...prices for most of 2012 aren't posted yet...hopefully within the next few hours.

It will be interesting to see how the all-inclusiveness with the wines/spirits and gratuities will be factored into the pricing.

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We are pleased and not surprised by the change to all inclusive. Regent, Seabourn, Silversea, SeaDream are all inclusive, and Crystal may think they need to be all inclusive to be competitive. We never minded signing for wines. Prices were fair. It wil be interesting to see how this will affect the as you wish onboard credit and the prices of the cruises.
In any case we will sail with Crystal as often as we can.
I wouldn't be surprised if As You Wish goes away with the introduction of all-inclusive. But that is pure speculation on my part. We'll know soon enough!
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Cruise Critic's piece on this is launching shortly. As You Wish is going away -- but free flights/airfare credits are remaining.
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It seems like later than usual this year that prices have been released and apparently this is the reason.

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"Coming in Spring 2012: Crystal is going All Inclusive. Complimentary fine wines, spirits and gratuities for all – including bars, butlers and specialty restaurants. Enjoy the ease: http://*******/XcgYs"

Of course this will replace "AYW" on-board credit....what would be left on which to spend it? One way or another the passengers will be paying for all these extras - whether they use them or not, so let's not get too excited.

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Old March 22nd, 2011, 12:34 PM
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FYI, this is from Crystal's website:

http://www.crystalcruises.com/MediaCenter.aspx

http://www.crystalcruises.com/AboutUs.aspx

March 22 Media release about "All Inclusive for 2012." The particulars are in the Media Release.

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Old March 22nd, 2011, 12:51 PM
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Default AYW credits a "gateway drug" to "All Inclusive"!

Seems we no longer have "choices". Luxury cruising will now equal "all inclusive" and as stated, we will all be paying for it, just as we have for the AYW credits.

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Default without the AYW credits Crystal is no longer such a good deal.

The only thing keeping me from abandoning the Crystal ship ,as it were, is the reasonable single supplement fee. If that is raised, I will be looking into less expensive cruises on some lines other CC membershave mentioned and been happy with... I will be darned if I am going to pay out of my pocket the outrageous internet fee of $300 for 25 hours nor the overpriced spa/salon fees.The AYW made it affordable for me. Crystal you missed the boat on this one!!!
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 01:02 PM
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"Coming in Spring 2012: Crystal is going All Inclusive. Complimentary fine wines, spirits and gratuities for all – including bars, butlers and specialty restaurants. Enjoy the ease: http://*******/XcgYs"

Of course this will replace "AYW" on-board credit....what would be left on which to spend it? One way or another the passengers will be paying for all these extras - whether they use them or not, so let's not get too excited.

Trudi
I don't really care one way or the other...handing out tips or putting them on the bill etc. at the end is a pain anyway. I always fork over some cash to my favorite Crew anyway...it's ONLY MONEY! I expect to pay mucho to get a quality product and will continue to do so...Crystal is why I work hard and can now enjoy it!!

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My husband and I don't drink and our travel agent always pays our gratuities, so this change isn't of any advantage to us.

In fact, if Crystal also does away with the AYW credits, it will be a big disadvantage for us!

We love the AYW, and there are plenty of things to use them for besides just buying drinks-- spa, excursions, photos, gift shop, extra tips, etc.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed about the credits, but I'm not very hopeful.

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Old March 22nd, 2011, 01:19 PM
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Default I expect TAs can adjust

Just because TAs currently pay gratuities and now Crystal will apparently be including them in the fares, doesn't mean all is lost. The TAs can switch to an onboard credit which can then be used for shorex, spa, shops etc. I always fine plenty of things to spend money on. In essence that's all the TA paid gratuities were anyway, an onboard credit restricted in its use.
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