Speedos - Square Cut & Trunks - Oh My!

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#41
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Originally posted by flspeedo
I'm packing my Speedos for the November 5th Epic! May have to buy a new squarecut as well, but hope to sun my buns on the Freestyle deck!
hi man see us obn the 5th of november on the epic !
we make our first cruise trip
greetings from europe

harry
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Originally posted by topguy
Styles change every few years even in America. Look back at those old Giget films. The normal swimsuit for guys in America was speedos and tight square cuts. Back then, they would have looked at board shorts as crazy and weird.

That's very true! I remember some of those 60's films...think Rock Hudson wore a couple of square cuts actually...
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#45
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Originally posted by Mermen
That's very true! I remember some of those 60's films...think Rock Hudson wore a couple of square cuts actually...

Well there's a suprise! LOL... Next thing you know you'll tell me the dad on the Brady Bunch had issues.
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No issues, he knew which team he played for....LOL
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#47
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Originally posted by stan01
Just back from two weeks in the French Riviera.

Appeared to us that the European guys at the mainstream beaches are mostly wearing board shorts these days just like their American counterparts.

You are right. When I was on my Greek Isles cruise in June, I noticed most of the European men on the beaches were wearing trunks or board shorts. At first I assumed they were American, but then heard them speaking French, German, etc. I don't know if the trend is changing or what, but I kind of missed seeing some of those guys in their speedos.

Back to the topic at hand, I agree that Americans are waaaay too conservative and sound quite ridiculous with how prudish they are. It's a double-standard that people are so horrified by half-naked men, but naked women are acceptable. But welcome to America and its double-standards! I'm a flight attendant and at my company we have some cabin crew who also work in porn. Some are males who work in porn and some are female. No one has a problem with the guys who work in porn - in fact, it's kind of a novelty. The guys love them and the girls love them. But people do talk crap about the girls who do porn. Especially the other girls are really bothered by it. Double standard!

I personally have no issue with anyone wearing as little as they want on a cruise, as long as they have a body for it. I think that sometimes people don't realize how they look. And I think its a matter of respect for other people who will be in the pool with you or laying out with you. No one wants to see some 400 pound man OR women shoved into a tiny piece of fabric. It's kind of gruesome. And maybe those are the types of people that posters on other boards are talking about when they say they are grossed out by speedos. I doubt if these people wearing next-to-nothing were in decent shape, people would be so quick to judge. But maybe so.



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Yeah, to each their own, my point is that it shouldn't matter if someone is 400 pounds or 140. Live and let live. Fashion, style and how a person "looks" is subjective, and it's unfair I think to judge them according to subjective standards. I.E., you're overweight and should NOT be wearing a Speedo, or Tux, or mini skirt, or whatever. What right does anyone have to to police what should or shouldn't be worn?

I'm not overweight, but seeing an overweight person, or older person, or whatever race or body style, in their choice of clothes is their choice - not mine. I think it's OK for us all to have our own opinion of what we like to look at or enjoy viewing, but also think it's pretty shallow to not put a "filter on it" and make gross generalizations.

Yes, it is fairly typical to see European men (and not all are Colt material) with stomachs, or balding with a Speedo. SO WHAT? Live and let live...enjoy what you prefer looking at, but I'm not in a suit for anyone's benefit but mine, or my partners. If ya don't like to look turn away! LOL.
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#50
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Originally posted by TxnAquarian
I personally have no issue with anyone wearing as little as they want on a cruise, as long as they have a body for it. I think that sometimes people don't realize how they look. And I think its a matter of respect for other people who will be in the pool with you or laying out with you. No one wants to see some 400 pound man OR women shoved into a tiny piece of fabric. It's kind of gruesome. And maybe those are the types of people that posters on other boards are talking about when they say they are grossed out by speedos. I doubt if these people wearing next-to-nothing were in decent shape, people would be so quick to judge. But maybe so. Michael

Sorry Michael, but this is double standard, too. And exactly this attitude is what kept me until now from taking a pure gay cruise. I wouldn´t enjoy being on a vacation trip on a ship with guys who wouldn´t enjoy being around me only because I don´t have a colt model body. And no, I am not fat and yes, I do wear speedos. I am a bit tired of guys that try to reduce others to their outer appearances.

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#51
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[quote=Hans1;30154559]Sorry Michael, but this is double standard, too. And exactly this attitude is what kept me until now from taking a pure gay cruise. I wouldn´t enjoy being on a vacation trip on a ship with guys who wouldn´t enjoy being around me only because I don´t have a colt model body. And no, I am not fat and yes, I do wear speedos. I am a bit tired of guys that try to reduce others to their outer appearances.

Oliver




Oliver, relax. I'm definitely not a worked-out, swimsuit model. I have a bit around the middle myself. But I also have the self-awareness to wear swimming trunks that aren't going to enhance my love handles. I know how I look and how I should present myself. I'm not the type of person who is delusional about my body type, nor do I have a "screw you" attitude in which I walk around looking like crap in front of people. I also have never been on a gay cruise and don't seek out perfect-looking people. My point is that I like to look at attractive people - men and women - and feel that people need to be realistic about their body types. Too many people live in this politically-correct world where they have this whole act like they think obese people should be able to offend everyone with their size. But the truth is everyone likes to see attractive people and there's nothing wrong with that. It doesn't make me shallow. It makes me realistic. Trust me, I wish I was in good enough shape to lounge around in public in a speedo.


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#52
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[quote=TxnAquarian;30154795]
Originally posted by Hans1
Sorry Michael, but this is double standard, too. And exactly this attitude is what kept me until now from taking a pure gay cruise. I wouldn´t enjoy being on a vacation trip on a ship with guys who wouldn´t enjoy being around me only because I don´t have a colt model body. And no, I am not fat and yes, I do wear speedos. I am a bit tired of guys that try to reduce others to their outer appearances.

Oliver




Oliver, relax. I'm definitely not a worked-out, swimsuit model. I have a bit around the middle myself. But I also have the self-awareness to wear swimming trunks that aren't going to enhance my love handles. I know how I look and how I should present myself. I'm not the type of person who is delusional about my body type, nor do I have a "screw you" attitude in which I walk around looking like crap in front of people. I also have never been on a gay cruise and don't seek out perfect-looking people. My point is that I like to look at attractive people - men and women - and feel that people need to be realistic about their body types. Too many people live in this politically-correct world where they have this whole act like they think obese people should be able to offend everyone with their size. But the truth is everyone likes to see attractive people and there's nothing wrong with that. It doesn't make me shallow. It makes me realistic. Trust me, I wish I was in good enough shape to lounge around in public in a speedo.


Michael
Michael, I agree with you about this. If someone is overweight, that is their business, but be realistic about what you wear. There's a show on TLC called "What not to wear". I'm sure that they would agree and they are the experts.
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Originally posted by Hans1
Sorry Michael, but this is double standard, too. And exactly this attitude is what kept me until now from taking a pure gay cruise. I wouldn´t enjoy being on a vacation trip on a ship with guys who wouldn´t enjoy being around me only because I don´t have a colt model body. And no, I am not fat and yes, I do wear speedos. I am a bit tired of guys that try to reduce others to their outer appearances.
You'd fit right in on a RSVP cruise There are all body types represented and a lot of them are in speedos too (and there is also a clothing optional deck) and the vast majority get along just fine.
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#54
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How does knee-length board shorts hide love handles any better than a speedo?
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#55
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[quote=topguy;30156741]
Originally posted by TxnAquarian
Michael, I agree with you about this. If someone is overweight, that is their business, but be realistic about what you wear. There's a show on TLC called "What not to wear". I'm sure that they would agree and they are the experts.
The problem with "What Not To Wear" is that, I'm pretty sure because they are American, they would always say, hands down, that men should never wear speedos. So to say they are the experts might be a bit of a stretch.
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#56
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"What not to wear" is totally subjective, and different for many people. Sorry for the reference, but in looking at gay videos, how the Hell many sub-categories are there? Mature, young, overweight, Bear, smooth, daddy, jock....you name it, there's something for everyone.

"Everyone enjoys attractive" is not an objective, but a one-size-fits-all statement. What I find attractive, you may not. Hence, making a declaration, "all [fill in the blank] men should not dress like this to look hot." Huh?

Please, Top Guy, they're the experts? That's what kills me about media and reality shows. Reality is in my home, me wearing what I want to wear, looking like a monsieur très sexy may be my defintion by 1/2 of you, while the other 1/2 think I'm a middle-aged, gray man who should only wear board shorts! LOL!! And I don't care...

I'm with an earlier poster, who wears the tight trunks at the pool / solarium but covers up in board shorts to walk around.
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#57
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If you don't wanna see my moose knuckle, don't be showing me your camel toe!! LOL

My boyfriend and I are going on our first cruise next Summer; in the Mediterranean. We fully intend on bringing along square cut trunks. Granted, we also intend on lots of gym time and healthy meals prior to the trip.
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Originally posted by TxnAquarian
Oliver, relax. I'm definitely not a worked-out, swimsuit model. I have a bit around the middle myself. But I also have the self-awareness to wear swimming trunks that aren't going to enhance my love handles. I know how I look and how I should present myself. I'm not the type of person who is delusional about my body type, nor do I have a "screw you" attitude in which I walk around looking like crap in front of people. I also have never been on a gay cruise and don't seek out perfect-looking people. My point is that I like to look at attractive people - men and women - and feel that people need to be realistic about their body types. Too many people live in this politically-correct world where they have this whole act like they think obese people should be able to offend everyone with their size. But the truth is everyone likes to see attractive people and there's nothing wrong with that. It doesn't make me shallow. It makes me realistic. Trust me, I wish I was in good enough shape to lounge around in public in a speedo.


Michael
I love how you try to dance around the issue yet still come straight out and say you're a sizeist. It's amusing.
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