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You have to register to read it. Can you copy and paste into into this thread?
Queen Mary 2 - Westbound Trans-Atlantic - Sailed on October 1st, 2010
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Queen Mary 2 - Royal Circumnavigation of Australia - Sailed on February 14th 2012
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If copy and paste the article, I think that would be a violation of copyright laws (resulting in prompt removal of the thread). However, if interested, go to Finacial Times website and use their search function...just type "cunard" in search box.
BTW, when I first read the article on-line yesterday, no registration was required; sorry to see that has changed. Perhaps someone else knows of other reputable UK news sources that have published reports regarding CCL contemplating de-flagging Cunard?
I don't see there being any practical effect. Many (if not most) of the major cruise lines' ships are registered under flags of convenience. Cunard could retain a substantial bit of its "Britishness" by registering in Bermuda and being able to take advantage of the wedding market.
One wonders why the UK doesn't just permit the weddings to hold on to this substantial cultural icon.
I sincerely hope that "Southampton" continues to appear across the stern of Cunard's three ships. It will be a sad day and another (very visible) indication of the slow decline of the line if it were removed.
If things MUST change, maybe the two cruise ships could be re-registered (and the Admiral's Lounge used as a wedding chapel) but leave QM2, THE transatlantic liner, registered in the UK? (On a recent WB crossing, I saw a "renewal of vows" take place in the Boardroom on Deck 9 with a small reception held in the Commodore Club)
But, on balance, I would much prefer if things were left as they are now, with the whole of Cunard's fleet UK registered.
(On the other hand, a little voice asks "has registering ships in Bermuda done P&O any harm, bookings wise?")
I was unaware, until reading this piece in the F.T. that "the Queen Elizabeth II" (sic) was the "flagship" of the Cunard Fleet.
"It's not the only way to cross, but it's the only way to cross"
I read in another thread the Cunard were to stay under British registry no matter what the consequences so I think Britain is safe to keep its line in British registry also 170 years of the line being in service from the UK and Boston ect I don't think they would throw that away if it wasn't something they didn't really need
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I dont know if this will happen or not, I have been a few vov renewals i both the boardroom and the Queens room, both the multi renewals and the private ones.
They almost always have someone who can conduct services on the ship so I am sure they could do something if needed.
Also at the end of the day, does it matter a whole lot is the word on the stern changed, the ship will still be the same in all other ways, bookings wont drop that much because the word "Southampton" although it would mean another tradition gone
Thats right, I am not a name snob, the name is what makes me go on the Cunard time and time again and im booked through 2012 as well, the ships and what they offer and the way they do it make me return, not he registry name.
A shame to lose a tradition, but if it keeps cost down and the ships sailing then fine
Why don't the UK government if they don't want to lose the Cunard Ships that fiy their flag and that are named after either a previous ship that has a Queen name the current Cunard Flagship Queen Mary 2 named after the first Queen Mary or the Queen Victoria named after a 19th Century Queen and the current Queen Elizabeth that has the same name of the current monarch and also the QE1 and QE2,just change the laws and allow the captains of these ships to perform weddings at sea? Regards,Jerry
Last edited by Cruise Liner Fan; September 25th, 2011 at 08:39 AM.
While it said no decision had been taken, the company said it was exploring options including moving its three vessels offshore. Bermuda and Malta are among flag states permitting captains to perform weddings.
As if the Captain didn't already have enough to do.
Forget not that the earth delights to feel your bare feet and the winds long to play with your hair. ~Kahlil Gibran
Sounds of the wind or sounds of the sea make me happy just to be. ~June Polis
Dude, don't you understand the first rule of holes? When you find yourself in a hole stop digging. Take it from a fellow Gopher.
A passport, as I'm sure you know, is a document that one shows to government officials whenever one reaches a border between countries, so the officials can learn who you are, where you were born, and how you look when photographed unflatteringly.
In the US the requirements to become a notary are not significant, a senior admin in an office is frequently a notary (but a notary's rolein the US is more to authenticating signatures & documents and doesn't extend to performing marriage ceremonies). I trust this isn't the case in the UK, otherwise the marriage ceremony issue could easily be addressed without a flag change (as if that is in fact the reason for contemplating this action...).
Queen Mary 2 (Caribbean Holiday) - December 2013
Carnival Pride (Bahamas) - October 2013
Queen Mary 2 (Caribbean Holiday) - December 2012
Caribbean Princess (Scandinavia) - July 2012
Queen Victoria (Hawaii) - February 2012
Queen Mary 2 (Eastbound Transatlantic Crossing) - October 2011
Queen Victoria (Panama Canal Transit) - March 2011
Queen Mary 2 (New England/Canada) - September 2010
IMHO, onboard weddings, like the "art" auctions and the champagne towers for wedding renewals, are supremely tacky.
When, then, can we expect to hear from the Cunard bean counters and their spokespeople about how much revenue is being missed out on from other "lucrative" venues for captive audiences such as rock climbing walls, flow-riders, movies under the stars, and the like?