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Old February 14th, 2012, 02:14 PM
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Don't mean to sound cheap, but my DH wants to be able to surf the net without paying for the wifi onboard. Personally I think the prices are ridiculous. Is it possible to get free wifi by chance in your cabin or do you have to sign up to get it? Is paying for the wifi worth it? Like I said, I'm not cheap, but I am money conscious. No flaming, please!! Thanks for any and all suggestions.
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Someone posted a link to a device that would supposedly steal the signal, but I won't repost that here. Other than that, no, you have to pay to access it. You can sometimes get free wifi signals at some ports.
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Don't mean to sound cheap, but my DH wants to be able to surf the net without paying for the wifi onboard. Personally I think the prices are ridiculous. Is it possible to get free wifi by chance in your cabin or do you have to sign up to get it? Is paying for the wifi worth it? Like I said, I'm not cheap, but I am money conscious. No flaming, please!! Thanks for any and all suggestions.
No free wifi in cabins. If you think the prices are ridiculous, the. It's probably not worth it. In over 20 cruises, I've never used the Internet on board.
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There is no free WiFi on ships except for some loyalty programs for which you would qualify after a certain number of days/cruises on some cruise lines.

Some people have reported they picked up free Wifi signals from their verandas when in port. I tried in San Juan and St. Thomas and was not able to get a signal other than the ship's.

We always buy a ship's internet package as we cannot be totally out of touch on our cruises. They are pricey but worth it to us.


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TO access the wifi, you have to PAY for the password. There is no "free" wifi on ships, unless (on some lines) you're in a suite. And, don't expect it to be "high-speed"...it's not!

There are spots in ports where wifi can be accessed....coffee shops/restaurants, etc....the crew can point him in the right direction.

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The reason he wants the wifi is he "surfs the net" while drinking his morning coffee. I told him he may have to "adjust". It's more of a habit. Personally, I can live without it. I didn't think there was anything free. Thank you all for the info.
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Not while the ship is at sea. The only wifi network is the ship's and they will charge. You can find places in most ports offering free wife. McDonald's does and Starbucks. If you are interested, ask your cabin steward or wait staff.
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Don't mean to sound cheap, but my DH wants to be able to surf the net without paying for the wifi onboard. Personally I think the prices are ridiculous. Is it possible to get free wifi by chance in your cabin or do you have to sign up to get it? Is paying for the wifi worth it? Like I said, I'm not cheap, but I am money conscious. No flaming, please!! Thanks for any and all suggestions.
The Internet / WIFI prices are not ridiculous. What is ridiculous is the hundreds of millions of dollars the WIFI company had to pay NASA to build 24 satellites, launch them into outer space, and continue to maintain them in a geo-synchronous orbit around the earth every day.
When you think of just a few hundred or a few thousand passengers on a ship using those multi-million dollar satellites at any given time, it is a true wonder that satellite time costs less than $1 per minute. Not only does somebody have to pay for all that technology, but the companies who invested all of those millions of dollars are hoping to make a profit for their trouble.
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Don't mean to sound cheap, but my DH wants to be able to surf the net without paying for the wifi onboard. Personally I think the prices are ridiculous. Is it possible to get free wifi by chance in your cabin or do you have to sign up to get it? Is paying for the wifi worth it? Like I said, I'm not cheap, but I am money conscious. No flaming, please!! Thanks for any and all suggestions.
you could always bring a wifi decoder, it will decode the 10 digit alpha-numeric code that most cruise lines use as the host signal. i'd equate this to bringing a rum-runner on board. you also need to be a bit computer savvy.
dont flame me, for using legal technology, there a 10,000 threads on how to sneak alcohol on board, maybe i should start one on how to sneak wifi on board
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you could always bring a wifi decoder, it will decode the 10 digit alpha-numeric code that most cruise lines use as the host signal. i'd equate this to bringing a rum-runner on board. you also need to be a bit computer savvy.
dont flame me, for using legal technology, there a 10,000 threads on how to sneak alcohol on board, maybe i should start one on how to sneak wifi on board
Now that would come in handy.
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Don't mean to sound cheap, but my DH wants to be able to surf the net without paying for the wifi onboard. Personally I think the prices are ridiculous. Is it possible to get free wifi by chance in your cabin or do you have to sign up to get it? Is paying for the wifi worth it? Like I said, I'm not cheap, but I am money conscious. No flaming, please!! Thanks for any and all suggestions.
Have you been on a cruise before? The reason I ask is, surfing the web on a ship is not really surfing, it's more like a slow crawl. Computer usage is VERY, VERY slow. It can take 2 minutes or more to download just one page. Heck, once I tried to download a photo for an email and it took 20 minutes. Wifi on ships is even slower than the old fashioned dial up modems we used to use. I think it's probably best for hubby to break the habit this time.
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I bought 5 hours for $12 in Cozumel good for 6 months they said. I still have almost 3 hours left to use next time Im there .. in March.

You can buy time cheap in the ports .. or I could play the game, buy coffee in the port and get a hour of time. Id rather just buy the time in bulk and stay on as long as I want in a internet cafe.
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you could always bring a wifi decoder, it will decode the 10 digit alpha-numeric code that most cruise lines use as the host signal. i'd equate this to bringing a rum-runner on board. you also need to be a bit computer savvy.
dont flame me, for using legal technology, there a 10,000 threads on how to sneak alcohol on board, maybe i should start one on how to sneak wifi on board

Really?
That is legal to do?

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For any american ports (Key West, St. Thomas, maybe Puerto Rico) just bring a smartphone that can tether to your laptop. Make sure you have plenty of data available. Worked great for me.

There used to be a way to get very cheap internet on board, think it was about $40 total for all you can use (did this on a transatlantic a few years back). You need T-Mobile, have a data plan, AND add international data to it. Technically, it says it's for email only. We were able to use it for web browsing too, though most of the usage was for email. No additional charge. Now, just because it worked for us years ago doesn't mean it'd work for you now. But if you already have T-Mobile, might be worth looking into (note, I was able to add the Blackberry international data even though I was using an iphone at the time). Now, this is slow cellular data, speed is Edge or slower (i.e., dialup). However, data on the ship's wifi is about the same speed, so...
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Oh, it's allllll over illegal... Just depends which laws the ship cares to apply if they get upset. The ship has its choice of federal, state, and international laws to choose from if they get really annoyed by the theft.
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Oh, it's allllll over illegal... Just depends which laws the ship cares to apply if they get upset. The ship has its choice of federal, state, and international laws to choose from if they get really annoyed by the theft.
its no more illegal than bringing a rum-runner on board, perfectly legal to own, and use in the entire western hemisphere.
if someone (the host in particular) wishes to broadcast the password over the open air, and i have a legal device witch can decode it, no crime has been committed. sorry ladyshiva you have been grossly misinformed.
i have been hacking computers and networks since it was called phone-freaking (over 25 years) in fact im am employed part time to teach major companys what they can do to better protect themselves from people like me, so i can assure you i am very familiar with all kinds of laws. none of witch apply here
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The Internet / WIFI prices are not ridiculous. What is ridiculous is the hundreds of millions of dollars the WIFI company had to pay NASA to build 24 satellites, launch them into outer space, and continue to maintain them in a geo-synchronous orbit around the earth every day.
When you think of just a few hundred or a few thousand passengers on a ship using those multi-million dollar satellites at any given time, it is a true wonder that satellite time costs less than $1 per minute. Not only does somebody have to pay for all that technology, but the companies who invested all of those millions of dollars are hoping to make a profit for their trouble.
That is so true ... thanks for the perspective!
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its no more illegal than bringing a rum-runner on board, perfectly legal to own, and use in the entire western hemisphere.
if someone (the host in particular) wishes to broadcast the password over the open air, and i have a legal device witch can decode it, no crime has been committed. sorry ladyshiva you have been grossly misinformed.
i have been hacking computers and networks since it was called phone-freaking (over 25 years) in fact im am employed part time to teach major companys what they can do to better protect themselves from people like me, so i can assure you i am very familiar with all kinds of laws. none of witch apply here
It may be legal to own the device, but using it to decode a password that the provider normally sells sounds like theft of service to me.
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you could always bring a wifi decoder, it will decode the 10 digit alpha-numeric code that most cruise lines use as the host signal. i'd equate this to bringing a rum-runner on board. you also need to be a bit computer savvy.
dont flame me, for using legal technology, there a 10,000 threads on how to sneak alcohol on board, maybe i should start one on how to sneak wifi on board
The signal (WiFi) isn't encrypted, the proxy only allows passing traffic from authenticated connections. Likely it authenticates a session (after your user/password) by tracking the MAC address of the wireless device, so I suspect, you could spoof someone else's MAC address once they were connected, but until they disappeared, it would be hard to not lose half the packets transmitted. Hopefully this was a simple enough explanation. if not, let me know, I can elaborate


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its no more illegal than bringing a rum-runner on board, perfectly legal to own, and use in the entire western hemisphere.
if someone (the host in particular) wishes to broadcast the password over the open air, and i have a legal device witch can decode it, no crime has been committed. sorry ladyshiva you have been grossly misinformed.
i have been hacking computers and networks since it was called phone-freaking (over 25 years) in fact im am employed part time to teach major companys what they can do to better protect themselves from people like me, so i can assure you i am very familiar with all kinds of laws. none of witch apply here
What a pathetic attempt at self justification. I mean, you can't come up with a better comparison than rum-runners? See, what you are advocating isn't like a rum runner. It's like walking into the ship's store and taking a bottle of booze and not paying for it. You are taking something the cruise line pays for and stealing it. Same as their bandwith. By your logic, I should be able to walk up to your house, smash a window, go inside and take whatever I felt like. I mean, just because you put a lock on the place doesn't mean I can't use whatever device I want to bypass that lock. After all, owning a hammer or crowbar is legal.
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