Carnival cruise Lines can't buy a break. Caribbean Princess broken in St Martin

[A Sixth?]

Engine issue.

I was on her a few weeks ago...

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1592386

[A Sixth?]

Update. The ship limped back to San Juan and is tied up at the pier as of now. They weren't supposed to go back to San Juan until Sunday...

One report states:

all passengers will be able to stay onboard through Sunday and then resume your plans to return home. For those passengers continuing on through March 18 we will provide you with an update late tomorrow as to the full impact on our next voyage." Passengers were given a full refund.

[hypercafe]

I think I read that all the brands equal 100+ ships. In that large number stuff happens.

[A Sixth?]

Originally Posted by hypercafe

I think I read that all the brands equal 100+ ships. In that large number stuff happens.

I sat at the Engineers table recently on the Summit and to make a long story short was told that the Carnival line ships have fewer redundant systems than Celebrity ships.

In effect, they are built to a cheaper standard.

[jjl64]

We were on the Caribbean Princess in January. I really feel for all of those people who have had their vacation cut short.

[A Sixth?]

Originally Posted by jjl64

We were on the Caribbean Princess in January. I really feel for all of those people who have had their vacation cut short.

News just in... not only did the poor people on this weeks cruise have their plans ruined, apparently the next two cruises are now officially cancelled!

The ship will be out for three weeks at least...

guess my shares of CCL are taking a slide...

edit... go figure... CCL is up today....

[Sloop-JohnB]

Wow...

What is that old saying "Bad News comes in 3s"

This has been one-a-month for the last 3 months for Carnival Corp...

Costa Concordia = January 13th
Costa Allegra = February 27th
Caribbean Princess = March 12th

They've had more than their "fair share" of bad luck... just imagine not only how much revenue they've lost by having 3 ships out of commission (either partly or completely) PLUS having to make FULL Refunds to about 7000+ Pax onboard, PLUS other costs for compensation (flight arrangements)...

PLUS, PLUS, PLUS... tons of other items (towing charges, repairs, legal fees, bookings cancelled / altered etc) what a bleak picture for this company's bottom line

Cheers!

[jackdiamond]

Not too bad a deal for the passengers, since they receive a free vacation, albeit not at all the ports which they wished to visit.

[momofmeg]

Originally Posted by A Sixth?

I sat at the Engineers table recently on the Summit and to make a long story short was told that the Carnival line ships have fewer redundant systems than Celebrity ships.

In effect, they are built to a cheaper standard.

Yes Carnival line is cheap ships-that is why I will not do a short cruise on Carnival-all old ships for the shorter cruises which are in rough shape. However the corporation is different from the line. I think HAL has some of the best ships of the mainstream lines. Princess ships are nice overall, but I like Celebrity better.

But you are right, between the Costa disaster, another Costa ship having problems, that Carnival ship last week messing up and now Caribbean Princess; it does seem they are having a lot of problems. It is a good thing our next cruise is Celebrity. LOL! We came close to booking Ruby Princess instead too!

[A Sixth?]

Originally Posted by jackdiamond

Not too bad a deal for the passengers, since they receive a free vacation, albeit not at all the ports which they wished to visit.

Not the next two cruises worth... they will get their costs refunded, but they aren't letting anyone aboard once the crop aboard now leave until the engine's fixed...

[momofmeg]

Originally Posted by A Sixth?

Not the next two cruises worth... they will get their costs refunded, but they aren't letting anyone aboard once the crop aboard now leave until the engine's fixed...

Maybe with money refunded they can book a great last minute deal. RCI has two ships from San Juan. Celebrity has one there also. If nothing else- a week in San Juan would not be bad. There is a lot to see and also great beaches there.

I am pretty sure not only will their money be refunded but they will get at least 50% off a future cruise.

[gelo7]

Originally Posted by hypercafe

I think I read that all the brands equal 100+ ships. In that large number stuff happens.

Yes, it does. And most of it isn't news worthy.

[hubofhockey]

Originally Posted by momofmeg

Yes Carnival line is cheap ships-that is why I will not do a short cruise on Carnival-all old ships for the shorter cruises which are in rough shape. However the corporation is different from the line. I think HAL has some of the best ships of the mainstream lines. Princess ships are nice overall, but I like Celebrity better.

But you are right, between the Costa disaster, another Costa ship having problems, that Carnival ship last week messing up and now Caribbean Princess; it does seem they are having a lot of problems. It is a good thing our next cruise is Celebrity. LOL! We came close to booking Ruby Princess instead too!

The Ruby Princess is a great ship. You couldn't have gone wrong with that choice.

We actually have the Caribbean Princess booked for July in British Isles with a great itinerary. I am relieved that the problems are happening now and not three months from now. I am not crazy about booking older ships on any line.

[momofmeg]

Originally Posted by hubofhockey

The Ruby Princess is a great ship. You couldn't have gone wrong with that choice.

We actually have the Caribbean Princess booked for July in British Isles with a great itinerary. I am relieved that the problems are happening now and not three months from now. I am not crazy about booking older ships on any line.

No, we made the right decision, the Princess cruise has not gone down in price, the Solstice went down so much we went from 4 people sharing an oceanivew to 2 balcony staterooms, 2 of us in each room. Plus my hubby and I have a spa balcony stateroom now. (when we booked between airfare and cruise cost-it was only $500 a person more for Ruby Princess) If we had stayed with Princess we would still be 4 in a cabin.

We were a little uncomfortable going to Greece right now. (we had also looked at the Equinox-Ruby Princess had all the ports of the Equinox, plus all the Italy ports of Solstice) We hope that we can do this some time in the future and hopefully the economy in Greece will be better when we do go-so no fear of riots, transportation strikes, etc.

We were on the Caribbean Princess back in 2006-western Caribbean. She was a nice ship-of course back then she was only 2 years old.

[momofmeg]

Originally Posted by momofmeg

No, we made the right decision, the Princess cruise has not gone down in price, the Solstice went down so much we went from 4 people sharing an oceanivew to 2 balcony staterooms, 2 of us in each room. Plus my hubby and I have a spa balcony stateroom now. (when we booked between airfare and cruise cost-it was only $500 a person more for Ruby Princess) If we had stayed with Princess we would still be 4 in a cabin.

We were a little uncomfortable going to Greece right now. (we had also looked at the Equinox-Ruby Princess had all the ports of the Equinox, plus all the Italy ports of Solstice) We hope that we can do this some time in the future and hopefully the economy in Greece will be better when we do go-so no fear of riots, transportation strikes, etc.

We were on the Caribbean Princess back in 2006-western Caribbean. She was a nice ship-of course back then she was only 2 years old.

Now when we switched from one stateroom to 2-that did run our fares up $500 a person-but heck it is worth missing Greece for the comfort of having two bathrooms for the 4 of us, plus hubby and I now have privacy.

[hubofhockey]

Originally Posted by momofmeg

We were on the Caribbean Princess back in 2006-western Caribbean. She was a nice ship-of course back then she was only 2 years old.

I am not crazy about going on the Caribbean Princess. The Crown Princess did the same itinerary last year and I view the Caribbean as a step down from that class. We do like the itinerary and that's why we booked it. It's not cheap and Princes has the very small balcony rooms. We do need a change of pace from Princess. We'd love to do a Solstice class ship. But for the Baltics itinerary out of Amsterdam, the Constellation is the only choice - another older ship. Oh well.

[RockyMountainGal]

I have read that some of the Princess cruisers have switched over to the Summit. This could be a good opportunity for Celebrity to win over some new converts.

[Despegue]

Some affected passengers have rebooked on Constellation, departing 24 March. That sailing is now completely sold out it seems.

[DaveP]

Originally Posted by A Sixth?

I sat at the Engineers table recently on the Summit and to make a long story short was told that the Carnival line ships have fewer redundant systems than Celebrity ships.

In effect, they are built to a cheaper standard.

Really??? Don't the Summit engineers remember all the azipod probelems Celebrity encountered a few years ago? Talk about delayed/ cancelled cruises! Especially on the Summit.

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