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What is the determining factors on what makes a cruise line a luxury line?
Price? Amenities? Larger cabins? All inclusive? I have yet to figure out what makes a cruise line a luxury one
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In my opinion, it's service more than anything else that makes for a luxury experience. I guess you could add amenities to that, but in the sense of quality of quantity of amenities.......smaller but more comfortable cabins or better quality food but fewer restaurants/dining locations, for example.
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Some on this board will sate that O is not luxury, so be it!
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As an interesting note, luxury cruise lines are more sedate than other cruise lines. Some of this is due to the size. There are no malls, climbing wall(s) or large swimming pools (usually one small pool). Luxury cruise lines sail most of the year with few children (some luxury lines do not really want children on board). During the summer and school breaks there are programs for children on a couple of the luxury lines. Everyone is treated the same on luxury lines. You will not get priority embarkation/disembarkation or front seats on the bus on a lux line. There are perks that are offered within the confines of your suite (and good benefits for loyal cruisers). You just do not see preferential treatment once you leave the confines of your cabin. Price is not a factor. You can get a top suite on mainstream cruise lines and pay as much as on a luxury line (when you add in tips, airfare, etc.) The bottom line is that the cruise industry determines which cruise lines are luxury. I would compare a luxury line to a very fine restaurant where you enjoy the food, service and ambience. Hope this helped answer your question.
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Last edited by Travelcat2; March 30th, 2012 at 10:07 PM. |
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We have not & will never stay in an OS but I think Oceania is luxury and compares to those that are classed as luxury lines in service, food and other areas that luxury lines promote Last edited by LHT28; March 30th, 2012 at 11:36 PM. |
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I thought Crystal was always classed as a luxury line but until recently they were not all inclusive
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Also, not all luxury lines include airfare (Seabourn does not). Silversea has a charge for two of their speciality restaurants. Regent is the only luxury line that has about 50% of their excursions included. I think the luxury lines intentionally do things a bit differently from each other for marketing purposes
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Your refrigerator is stocked and re-stocked with your personal preferences in soft drinks, water, and beer. Your fruit basket is replenished with your favorite fruits. Order your espresso with two sugars once and get it that way next time without asking. The staff anticipates your wishes and remembers your preferences. The specialty restaurants are truly special - Crystal's Silk Road is the only restaurant at sea with the cuisine of Nobu. The black miso cod is pure heaven. The sushi bar is open every night, first come, first serve. The Carpaccio di Manza in Prego is the best I've ever had -- with 25 year old Modena balsamic and freshly grated Reggiano Parmesan. All at no extra charge. Small elegant touches abound - Villeroy & Bosch designs created just for the line, Frette robes, round the clock in-suite dining. Shore excursions -- the buses are never filled to capacity so that the guests never feel crowded. Been to Ephesus? In the daytime it's hot, crowded, and noisy but still a wonderful experience. Then go in the evening to a classical concert in front of the library facade. The hordes of tourists are gone, the hawkers are gone. You can hear the birds in the cool evening breeze. It's magical. Only the luxury lines offer this experience. Days at sea - a golf pro on every cruise, a certified bridge teacher on every cruise, gentleman hosts for the ladies who dance on every cruise, interesting performers and lecturers - on every cruise. Right now these are the speakers on the Crystal Serenity: Regis Philbin - you know who he is Neil Leifer When the London Observer listed the 50 greatest sporting images of all time, photographs by Neil Leifer ranked first and second. Now principally a producer and director of documentaries and short films, his pictures have appeared in every major magazine, including LIFE, Time, and Sports Illustrated. Ken Rees (Bristol, England) Ken Rees brings to the role of destination lecturer over 25 years experience as a world-travelling foreign correspondent. Dr. Robert Freedman A Professor of Political Science at Johns Hopkins University, Dr. Robert Freedman is the author of five books on world affairs. He is currently working on a project to analyze the triangular relationship between the United States, China, and Russia. His presentations will cover both Sino-American and Sino-Russian relations. A consultant to the State Department and the CIA, Dr. Freedman has been a member of several US government delegations to Beijing. He is a regular commentator with NPR, the BBC, and the Voice of America. The luxury lines score consistently at the top of the Travel & Leisure and Conde Nast cruise rankings. Devotees of Crystal, Regent, Silversea and Seabourn may quibble about who's at the top today, but they are all luxury lines. The premium lines simply cannot provide the level of service, personal attention and high standards that the "luxury" lines provide. |
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I was curious what all the fuss was about who /what were considered luxury cruises BTW I do not put any stock in polls by Conde Nast or T & L YMMV Who are the demographics that vote in these polls ...they could sway the results Anyway If those points you have described for luxury lines are the criteria I guess they are not for us I guess I will stick with the premium line (Oceania) We dislike formal nights & our palates seem to be not as refined as luxury cruisers We like good quality simple fare. Thanks for those that commented We are clearly not luxury cruise line material Last edited by LHT28; March 31st, 2012 at 03:04 PM. |
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Don't feel badly if that's the case - luxury may be luxurious, but not necessarily "better" or ideal. One size never fits all (thankfully - how boring would life be if we all liked the same thing). Different people have different priorities, and one set isn't better than the other. I'm taking my first luxury cruise next year, and I chose it primarily because of the accommodations for solo travelers, not because I was seeking "luxury"; I'm actually worried that I might not like the formality of evenings, etc. but on the other hand, I'm thinking I will enjoy the service and comfort......time will tell. Don't knock luxury cruising if it doesn't offer what you value, but don't discount it as being unworthy of it's price either.
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I do hope you enjoy your "luxury" experience We were going to try a different line with friends because they like AI resorts & I was thinking the Luxury lines may work for them I find Oceania has the service & quality food that works for us without formal nights It may be lacking in some areas but those are usually not important to us anyway Enjoy the cruise lyn |
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As you know, Regent also does not have formal nights. Crystal remains a mystery as it only went all-inclusive recently. The fact that they do not have "true" open seating remains a concern. I have no doubt that they have excellent service and food (as does Silversea, Regent and Seabourn).
Oceania, besides for having inside cabins and small cabins does not allow for special orders -- not even 24 hours in advance. But, if you book a smaller suite with the alcohol package, it comes fairly close to luxury. The new ships definitely meet the criteria for luxury. They are more like an ala carte luxury ship while it's sister cruise company, Regent, is true luxury. Luxury cruising definitely isn't for everyone. The age on longer cruises skew higher -- children are looked at as if they were aliens (except when school is not in session) and there is much less to do than on larger ships. Many of us just want nice lectures, wine tastings, spa treatments along with excellent food and service. Kinda boring for a lot of people
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Coming up: 05/13 - Istanbul-Rome - Riviera / 09/13 Vancouver-Tokyo-Silver Shadow / 11/13 Barcelona-Rio- Mariner / 02/14 Singapore-Hong Kong-Voyager Total nights: Regent = 205 / Silversea = 25 Sailings per ship: Voyager (8), Mariner (3), Navigator (3), PG (1), Silver Spirit (1), Silver Whisper (1) Itineraries: Alaska (2 sailings) / Baltics / Barcelona Dubai / Cape Town Rio / E. & W. Caribbean (3 sailings) / Ft. Lauderdale Lima / Istanbul-Venice / London-Monte Carlo / Miami Barcelona / Mumbai Bali / New York-Southampton / Tahiti / Venice-Rome
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We do not mind older people or younger people We have met some lovely 80+ yr olds that we dined with on several occasions We usually get along with many age groups it is more about the person than their age We prefer not to have young children on the cruise but if they are allowed by the cruise line then you have to deal with it. I must say on our Oceania cruises any children we have encountered were well behaved We do not need rock climbing walls or to be entertained 24/7 so that is not a concern We rarely drink nor do the spa thing ..we are rather boring ![]() I am quite happy & usually find things to eat on the menus so no need for special orders. We do enjoy quality food not like on the mainstream lines which seem to deal in quantity Oceania seems to do very well in the food dept as I am sure Regent does we do not mind the smaller cabins we pack light so no need of 1000sq ft cabin, we are not usually in the cabin much anyway I am glad you enjoy the luxury cruise but as you say they are not for everyone Last edited by LHT28; March 31st, 2012 at 11:24 PM. |
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calliopecruiser, Thank you for your comment about "don't knock luxury cruising". One size definitely does not fit all and yet there are cruisers who want to put down those who enjoy "luxury" cruising. I have yet to understand why people resent those who are willing to pay more for what they at a minimum think is better. It is absolutely a question of personal preference. This issue on all CC boards has always been one of my pet peeves as I think everyone is entitled to spend their money as they wish and not be criticized for their choice
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I'm still laughing about the question as to whether children are not looked at as aliens when school is out
Actually, we don't cruise when school is out as it is right now. Guess they look the same as any other time
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![]() I have never heard them called aliens before but that would also fit the description of some children
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