Travel Agt Told Me I needed Passport for Alaskan Cruise -???

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#1
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I have sailed Carnival 2 years ago on the Spirit to Alaska. I had a passport and used it for excursions that went into Canada, but I knew of others on the ship who did not have one - and just didn't go into Canada (and stayed on the ship when we docked in Victoria.)

The ship is round trip from Seattle.

I am taking my mom on the cruise next year. It will be the exact same itinerary (except on the Miracle instead of Spirit)

Got my confirmation letter from the travel agency and the letter states a passport is required.

Is this something new?

I don't want to spend $135 for a passport my mom will never use.
#2
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You need to talk to someone who does know, or check out the website I attached for Canada Border Protection Services. This should give you a better understanding of what the rules are for travelling from the US to Canada....

http://www.cbsa.gc.ca/security-securite/admiss-eng.html
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YES, you need a passport. We had 1 person in our group of 5 that couldn't get on the ship last year. I made all the arrangements. I told each traveler with every email. Don't forget your passport. She thought I didn't know what I was talking about. Her Alaska trip was 3 days in Alaska then flying home alone to the tune of $850. So bring your passport.

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#6
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Originally posted by Justsyd
A passport is required for Canada. I'm sure that your Mom probably doesn't want to sit on the ship all day in port.
It isn't all day ... it is an Alaska cruise that is round trip from a US port - which means the ship is required to make 1 foreign port. Victoria is the last day at doesn't get there until 7:30 pm.

The only thing would be the train ride in Skagway that goes through Canada, but she doesn't want to do that.
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I called Carnival and pressed the option for travel documents.

It said for US citizens a passport is NOT required for travel that begins and ends in the same US port.

canrubu, where did your cruise begin and end?
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Please post what your response from Carnival is... I am a little confused since it is a closed loop cruise why need a passport. Does Canada specifically request this? We have only taken carribbean cruises but my BF doesnt have one and has had no issues.

She could always just not get off at that stop.
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We did not need them for Halifax and Saint John Closed Loop cruise from NY last year. Our BC and DL worked just fine. If you are on a closed loop cruise from a US port and are a US citizen you should be within WHTI compliance.
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Originally posted by agc291
Please post what your response from Carnival is... I am a little confused since it is a closed loop cruise why need a passport. Does Canada specifically request this? We have only taken carribbean cruises but my BF doesnt have one and has had no issues.

She could always just not get off at that stop.
We were replying at the same time so you must have missed my comment.

I got their recording that for closed loop no passport is required ... then I decided to actually talk to someone and they told me the same thing ... which is what I had always read on these boards.

If it is closed loop, no passport is required.

Obviously, if you board or depart from your cruise in Vancouver, BC then you would need a passport (!) That is common sense ... but if you are on a closed loop cruise that stays in the US (Alaska) and only makes a 4hr stop in Canada (and I am sure my Mom does not want to get off the ship at 7:30 pm when we have to disembark in the morning) then I don't see why I should pay for a passport.

I am going to also talk to my TA but I am pretty confident about this now.
#12
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This may help?

From Carnival.

""Cruises that begin and end in the same U.S port (referred to as a closed-loop cruise)

For cruises that begin and end in the same U.S port, ALL guests are required to carry proof of citizenship AND proof of identification.



Proof of Citizenship: A birth certificate or any of the WHTI-Compliant Documents listed below are acceptable.

Proof of Identification (I.D): A non-expired government-issued photo I.D is required of all guests 16 years of age and older.



Birth Certificate Information

The following are acceptable:

An original Birth Certificate issued by a Government Agency (State/County/City) or the Department of Health and Vital Statistics
A copy of a birth certificate issued by a Government Agency (State/County/City) or the Department of Health and Vital Statistics)
A clear, legible, quality Xerox copy of a birth certificate that was originally issued by a Government Agency (State/County/City) or the Department of Health and Vital Statistics). The Xerox copy does not need to be notarized or certified.
Birth Certificate Card
A Consular report of Birth Abroad
In Regards to Birth Certificates: Guests may obtain a copy of a birth certificate by contacting: The Department of Health and Vital Statistics at: www.vitalchek.com. If the guest has laminated their birth certificate, it is acceptable.



AND



Photo Identification

A non-expired Government-Issued Photo I.D is required of all guests 16 years of age and older. The following are acceptable:


Driver’s License
Driver’s Permit
School/Student I.D (acceptable for guests 16/17/18 years of age)
Government-Issued identification card (city/state/federal)
Names on Travel Documentation
It is important that the guest’s full name on the cruise and airline tickets be the same as the guest’s non-expired government-issued photo ID they plan to use for travel identification. In the event of a different name on the cruise/airline ticket and the guest’s photo ID as a result of a marriage, divorce or a legal name change, documentation supporting this change is required (at embarkation), such as a marriage certificate, marriage license or legal name change court document. Failure to bring documentation bridging the name differences could result in denied boarding.



Note: For newly married or soon-to-be married brides, we strongly recommend that if the non-expired government-issued photo ID is in the maiden name, the cruise booking be made in the maiden name (do not include the married name); If the reservation was made in the married name, but the non-expired government-issued photo ID is in the maiden name, documentation supporting this change is required (at embarkation), such as a marriage certificate or marriage license. Failure to bring documentation bridging the name differences could result in denied boarding.



Since our reservation systems do not accept middle names, the middle name must be included during the Check-In (FunPass) process.""
#13
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Rachel, your TA is probably just being overly thorough...your cruise fits the WHTI exception for passports. Here is the official government link
http://getyouhome.gov/html/lang_eng/eng_sa.html
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#14
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The only reason you would need to have a passport on an Alaskan cruise is if you plan on going on any excursion that will be going to Fraser, Canada, i.e., the White Pass and Yukon Train. I know that when we booked our private excursion on the White Pass and Yukon Train, our tour operator clearly stated that we would need to show proof of US citizenship before entering. Not sure why, but we brought them along with us. I believe the same thing holds true if you book an excursion with the ship that would be heading into Canada.

If you do not plan on doing any type of excursion where you will be visiting Canada, then you do not need to bring a passport.

Your TA was probably being overly cautious.
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#15
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i just dont understand why people who travel just dont get a passport.. They are less than 100bucks and could come in handy.. I dont know what canadian law is they may require a passport? Why not just get a passport to be safe...
#16
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Originally posted by vols_159
i just dont understand why people who travel just dont get a passport.. They are less than 100bucks and could come in handy.. I dont know what canadian law is they may require a passport? Why not just get a passport to be safe...
Where do you buy YOUR passports that they are under $100?

The first time they are $165 x every member of your family over 16.

That changes things a lot.
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Originally posted by kayhold
Where do you buy YOUR passports that they are under $100?

The first time they are $165 x every member of your family over 16.

That changes things a lot.
The price you are quoting is for the passport book and card. You really don't need the card at all if you have the book. The fee for the book is $135.

That might not change things budget wise too much, but in my mind it is pennies compared to finding yourself without one when you need it.
#18
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Though my wife and I have less than no interest in getting off the ship in Victoria, at this time, we're still bringing our passports. This way IF we change our mind on the trip, we can get off ship. Besides, it's all the ID and proof you need.
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#19
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Your TA is looking our for your best interest. While a passport may not be required, and it is a highly unlikely event... if the there were an emergency or someone in your group sick needing to be transported to a local Canadian hospital... it would be in your best interest to have a passport. Hopefully there will be no such incidences, but it is extra insurance.
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#20
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It is closed loop so technically no passport needed but you can not go to Frasier/Yukon on Skagway day and you can not get off ship in Victoria BC

If price is an object, just get a passport (no card)...a passport is the best form of identification. The card is for people who want to just drive thru the borders (Canada, Mexico) and/or just cruise. Can't use the card for Europe, Asia etc.

For any one way Alaska trip you certainly need a passport, and that is why that one poor cruiser was denied boarding.
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