Go Back   Cruise Critic Message Board Forums > Cruise Discussion Topics > Ask a Cruise Question
 
Register here!
Forgot Your Password?


Notices

Ask a Cruise Question Post your general cruise questions here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old May 21st, 2012, 12:58 PM
hockeygal54's Avatar
hockeygal54 hockeygal54 is offline
Cool Cruiser
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: DALLAS TX 'BURB
Posts: 616
Default E cigarettes on cruise ships

This is Princess' policy as of today on their web site. I am taking an AK cruise in August with a friend and honestly the only time I even like to or DO smoke is while having an "adult beverage" and preferably on our rather expensive balcony!

"Electronic Cigarettes
The use of electronic cigarettes is permitted in all areas onboard with the exception of dining areas and the Princess Theater. However, should a fellow passenger in the vicinity feel inconvenienced and complain, even after being told the difference between electronic cigarettes and real cigarettes, we will ask the passenger to refrain from smoking the electronic cigarette."

I find the last sentence of this policy aggravating. If a fellow passenger feels "inconvenienced"??? Hell, I feel "inconvenienced" by all the motorized scooters that were on my first Canadian cruise trip and their rude inconsiderate drivers! Did the cruise line tell them to get up and WALK???? NO. And excessive drinking??? I find that inconveniencing too!

Opinions wanted please!

__________________
11-29-2008 Carnival Ecstasy
01-04-2009 Voyager of the Seas
10-10-2009 Jewel of the Seas
01-04-2014 Caribbean Princess
Reply With Quote

Ad Sponsored By
  #2  
Old May 21st, 2012, 01:04 PM
voyager70's Avatar
voyager70 voyager70 is offline
Cool Cruiser
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 1,167
Default

I agree!
Reply With Quote

  #3  
Old May 21st, 2012, 01:08 PM
sail7seas sail7seas is offline
Charter Member - 5,000+ Club
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 66,728
Default

On HAL ships, e-cigarettes are only permitted to be used in designated smoking areas.

Most lounges on HAL ships are smoke free....... with a few exceptions.

Smoking is not permitted in cabins but is allowed on verandas.
__________________
<img src=http://www.hollandamerica.com/images/5starMariner.gif border=0 alt= />

sail7seas7 At yahoo .com
Please put CruiseCritic in Subject Line
Reply With Quote

  #4  
Old May 21st, 2012, 01:27 PM
hockeygal54's Avatar
hockeygal54 hockeygal54 is offline
Cool Cruiser
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: DALLAS TX 'BURB
Posts: 616
Default

I plan to buy one of these things, get used to using it and will probably give a little courtesy "heads up" to the balcony mates on either side of us so they are aware of my escapades......I think most issues with "neighbors" results in lack of information and ignorance and if you pave that road first time out of the shoot so to speak, then it is a non-issue down the road.
__________________
11-29-2008 Carnival Ecstasy
01-04-2009 Voyager of the Seas
10-10-2009 Jewel of the Seas
01-04-2014 Caribbean Princess
Reply With Quote

  #5  
Old May 21st, 2012, 01:54 PM
Tralynn's Avatar
Tralynn Tralynn is offline
Blue Ribbon Cruiser
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Southeast Louisiana
Posts: 4,272
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hockeygal54 View Post
This is Princess' policy as of today on their web site. I am taking an AK cruise in August with a friend and honestly the only time I even like to or DO smoke is while having an "adult beverage" and preferably on our rather expensive balcony!

"Electronic Cigarettes
The use of electronic cigarettes is permitted in all areas onboard with the exception of dining areas and the Princess Theater. However, should a fellow passenger in the vicinity feel inconvenienced and complain, even after being told the difference between electronic cigarettes and real cigarettes, we will ask the passenger to refrain from smoking the electronic cigarette."

I find the last sentence of this policy aggravating. If a fellow passenger feels "inconvenienced"??? Hell, I feel "inconvenienced" by all the motorized scooters that were on my first Canadian cruise trip and their rude inconsiderate drivers! Did the cruise line tell them to get up and WALK???? NO. And excessive drinking??? I find that inconveniencing too!

Opinions wanted please!

Yep, that last phrase opens up a huge can of worms. It would be far better for them to just set a policy and leave it black and white.

I can say that I am extremely highly allergic to cigarette smoke. A friend of ours had the electronic cigarette, and there is NO way it could inconvenience me. It simply emits water vapor. I don't know why they just don't state "Since they only emit water vapor and in no way can cause discomfort to other passengers, electronic cigarettes will be allowed in all areas with the exception of the Princess Theatre and dining rooms." That statement would set a "black and white" rule as well as educate those that are not familiar with the device.

Sometimes the cruise lines just make things harder than they have to be IMHO.
__________________
Tracy



Celebration, 1998
Carnival Destiny, 1999
Carnival Destiny, 2000
RCCL Serenade of the Seas, 2004
Crown Princess, 2007
Carnival Fantasy, 2008
Ruby Princess, 2008
Carnival Sensation (Abbie), 2009
Carnival Fantasy, 2009
Caribbean Princess, 2009
Carnival Triumph, 2010
Emerald Princess, 2010
Golden Princess (Alaska), 2011
RCCL Voyager of the Seas, 2011
NCL Spirit, 2012
Emerald Princess, 2012
Carnival Freedom (Girls' Trip), 2013
NCL Sun, 2013
NCL Jewel, 2014
Celebrity Summit, 2014
Reply With Quote

  #6  
Old May 21st, 2012, 04:17 PM
jamessemaj jamessemaj is offline
Cool Cruiser
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: texas
Posts: 744
Default

I agree. Princess is going overboard to accommodate those who go into spasm at even the word, smoking, let alone a vision of smoke from a fake cigarette, which is only harmless water vapor.
Reply With Quote

  #7  
Old May 21st, 2012, 04:38 PM
celle celle is offline
Cool Cruiser
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,903
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jamessemaj View Post
I agree. Princess is going overboard to accommodate those who go into spasm at even the word, smoking, let alone a vision of smoke from a fake cigarette, which is only harmless water vapor.
My DH has now been a non-smoker for 4 months, thanks to the e-cigs - he had smoked for 50+ years. They do emit a vapour that looks like smoke, so he still only uses them where smoking is allowed - to avoid upsetting anyone who is hyper-sensitive.

I agree that Princess should have made a hard and fast rule, and not left anything to the whims of passengers.
__________________
Troop ship, Alexandria to Southampton 1945, 7 days. River Nile paddle steamer, Sudan to Tanganyika & return, 1946, 1947.
MV Akaroa, Southampton to Auckland 1968, 48 days. Yangtse River Cruise 2005, 4 days. Nile cruise Luxor to Aswan 2008 - 4 days.
Holland America - 58 cruising days, 100 status days.
Celebrity - 56 days.
Royal Caribbean - 72 days.
"I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky. And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by." (John Masefield: "Sea Fever.")
Reply With Quote

  #8  
Old May 21st, 2012, 06:56 PM
cb at sea cb at sea is online now
50,000+ Club
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fredericksburg, va. USA
Posts: 61,209
Default

Don't worry about using it on your balcony...there is NOTHING for your balcony neighbors to smell.....and the vapor will dissapate before they can even see it.
Reply With Quote

  #9  
Old May 21st, 2012, 07:04 PM
jocap's Avatar
jocap jocap is offline
Blue Ribbon Cruiser
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Seascale,Cumbria,U.K.
Posts: 4,404
Default

At least Princess allows you to vape in areas other than the smoking ones- her sister line, P&O insists that you can only use e-cigs in the smoking areas- and there's no indoor smoking areas, so, for people who are trying to give up, the temptation to smoke a real cig, in the company of others out on deck, is immense.
However, last summer, I didn't meet a single person on board a very large ship, who'd heard of, or seen, an e-cig before. I gave the email address to many, including crew.
Jo.
__________________
Jo.
14 cruises; 10 ships; 7 lines; 79 ports
Reply With Quote

  #10  
Old May 21st, 2012, 08:12 PM
cruiseaholic777's Avatar
cruiseaholic777 cruiseaholic777 is offline
Cool Cruiser
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: pittsburgh pa
Posts: 358
Default

I have no problem with the wording. The same people that complain about thr e-cigs will complain about where you can smoke then. Some people just like to complain. It is that simple.
__________________
Celebrity: Millenium -November 2003
Princess: Caribbean -November 2004
Princess: Caribbean -November 2005
Royal Caribbean: Sovereign of the Seas -August 2006
Carnival: Glory -November 2007
Princess: Caribbean -January 2008
Princess: Ruby -November 2009
Princess: Crown -January 2 2010
Princess: Crown - November 27 2010
Royal Caribbean: Navigator of the Seas - December 10 2011

Booked:
Carnival: Freedom September 8 2012
Reply With Quote

  #11  
Old May 22nd, 2012, 08:36 AM
flamomo's Avatar
flamomo flamomo is online now
5,000+ Club
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Tampa, Florida area
Posts: 9,957
Default

IMO, Princess has made a huge step forward in even establishing a policy allowing E-cigs to be used pretty much anywhere onboard.
While the last sentence borders on the ridiculous, perhaps it's an opportunity for "vapers" to educate people who know nothing about E-cigs.

I used mine in my cabin on a couple of cruises, and no one was the wiser because there is no residual odor and no ashes.
Reply With Quote

  #12  
Old May 22nd, 2012, 08:59 AM
patseacruiser's Avatar
patseacruiser patseacruiser is offline
5,000+ Club
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,670
Default

I know everybody will disagree with me on this and they all say there is no smell from an e-cigarette but to me it has a smell and it's one I don't like. I'd almost rather smell a cigarette. Could it have been a different kind of e-cigarette or something that had a smell?
Reply With Quote

  #13  
Old May 22nd, 2012, 09:52 AM
Talisker92 Talisker92 is offline
Cool Cruiser
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Santa Paula CA
Posts: 2,758
Default

My wife stopped smoking after a health scare, and now uses an e-cig. Apparently there are a number of different flavors of the liquid that you use. That may be what is smelled.
Reply With Quote

  #14  
Old May 22nd, 2012, 12:30 PM
Tralynn's Avatar
Tralynn Tralynn is offline
Blue Ribbon Cruiser
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Southeast Louisiana
Posts: 4,272
Default

It's pretty hard to start regulating different smells. Could you imagine the perfume rules that would have to be in place?

The main issue is that smell or no smell, the e-cigarette emits a totally harmless water vapor and a real cigarette emits agents that can be harmful to the health of surrounding passengers.

I am not a smoker. I hate cigarette smoke. I am highly allergic to cigarette smoke. For all of these reasons, I am more than happy to support a fellow passenger that is trying their best to break the habit.

As far as the rule set in place, Princess really does need to tweak it a bit in order to keep the peace. Rules should be straight forward and not subjective to the whims of passengers.
__________________
Tracy



Celebration, 1998
Carnival Destiny, 1999
Carnival Destiny, 2000
RCCL Serenade of the Seas, 2004
Crown Princess, 2007
Carnival Fantasy, 2008
Ruby Princess, 2008
Carnival Sensation (Abbie), 2009
Carnival Fantasy, 2009
Caribbean Princess, 2009
Carnival Triumph, 2010
Emerald Princess, 2010
Golden Princess (Alaska), 2011
RCCL Voyager of the Seas, 2011
NCL Spirit, 2012
Emerald Princess, 2012
Carnival Freedom (Girls' Trip), 2013
NCL Sun, 2013
NCL Jewel, 2014
Celebrity Summit, 2014
Reply With Quote

  #15  
Old May 22nd, 2012, 04:09 PM
hockeygal54's Avatar
hockeygal54 hockeygal54 is offline
Cool Cruiser
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: DALLAS TX 'BURB
Posts: 616
Question

Ok now what brands r u ecig vapes liking? I'm in research stage!!
__________________
11-29-2008 Carnival Ecstasy
01-04-2009 Voyager of the Seas
10-10-2009 Jewel of the Seas
01-04-2014 Caribbean Princess
Reply With Quote

  #16  
Old May 22nd, 2012, 06:28 PM
jocap's Avatar
jocap jocap is offline
Blue Ribbon Cruiser
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Seascale,Cumbria,U.K.
Posts: 4,404
Default

I use the intellicig, because it's made in the UK and not some far off eastern country....and was researched at 2 universities here.
About the smell....I'm sitting here sniffing, catching water vapour !....I've never caught a whiff of anything, nor have my relations and friends. Perhaps there's a whiff of menthol when I vape with those? Other than glycerine and a tiny drop of nicotine, which I don't think has a smell, there's nothing in the capsule to emit an odour.(I'm even unscrewing the capsule and nosing into it...no, can't catch anything....)
I should think any odour is with the flavoured ones, such as peach and, as I say, the menthol.
Jo.
__________________
Jo.
14 cruises; 10 ships; 7 lines; 79 ports

Last edited by jocap; May 22nd, 2012 at 06:29 PM.
Reply With Quote

  #17  
Old May 22nd, 2012, 07:17 PM
loubetti's Avatar
loubetti loubetti is offline
Cool Cruiser
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,379
Default

I "vape" E-Cigs, and I am a big fan of them. We need to educate cruise lines, non-smokers (so they don't complain about nothing) and smokers (so they can quit) about them!
__________________
Best regards,

Lou Betti
Boca Raton, FL

The late, great Regal Empress. One of the
longest serving passenger ships of all time.
...............1953 to 2009.....................

On board QE2 for the last trans-Atlantic
of the 20th Century, December 1999 & 2000

On board QM2 for her maiden trans-Atlantic
to New York, April 2004

I love to cruise, but my flying comes first!
Cessna 210N Turbo Centurion.

44 cruises since 1985 and I am too lazy to mention them all! However, I do own the Builder's Certificate to the the RMS Queen Elizabeth. A lot of good that does me! Ships sailed on: Costa Riviera. Home Lines Atlantic. Cunard QE2 & QM2. Premier Cruise's Sea Breeze & Rembrandt. Celebrity Zenith, Century, Galaxy & Millennium. Bahamas Celebration, and my favorite ship of all, Regal Empress! Cunard Diamond, Celebrity Elite, RCI Diamond (and I've yet to sail on RCI!!)
Reply With Quote

  #18  
Old May 23rd, 2012, 08:55 AM
flamomo's Avatar
flamomo flamomo is online now
5,000+ Club
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Tampa, Florida area
Posts: 9,957
Default

My daughter, son-in-law, and I all use this website .... my vapor store dot com. They have a variety of types of e-cigs and liquids to use in them. I have found their service to be very prompt and dependable.
Reply With Quote

  #19  
Old May 23rd, 2012, 09:19 AM
Hlitner Hlitner is offline
10,000+ Club
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: New Cumberland,PA, USA
Posts: 18,270
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hockeygal54 View Post
This is Princess' policy as of today on their web site. I am taking an AK cruise in August with a friend and honestly the only time I even like to or DO smoke is while having an "adult beverage" and preferably on our rather expensive balcony!

"Electronic Cigarettes
The use of electronic cigarettes is permitted in all areas onboard with the exception of dining areas and the Princess Theater. However, should a fellow passenger in the vicinity feel inconvenienced and complain, even after being told the difference between electronic cigarettes and real cigarettes, we will ask the passenger to refrain from smoking the electronic cigarette."

I find the last sentence of this policy aggravating. If a fellow passenger feels "inconvenienced"??? Hell, I feel "inconvenienced" by all the motorized scooters that were on my first Canadian cruise trip and their rude inconsiderate drivers! Did the cruise line tell them to get up and WALK???? NO. And excessive drinking??? I find that inconveniencing too!

Opinions wanted please!

You are not the first to complain about the scooters and this has become a big problem for all the cruise lines. Some of the European lines have restricted the number of scooters (such as P&O) and all the lines now prohibit passengers from parking scooters in the corridors (its a safety issue). We take many long cruises which tend to attract an older clientele where scooters are very common. We generally find that most scooter (and larger Electric Wheelchair) drivers to be courteous...but there are always some who seem to make a hobby out of trying to run down other passengers. We think responsible use of scooters is a good thing because it allows folks with major mobility problems to improve their lives.

One other factor for ships that call at US Ports are the various laws of the land such as ADA that pretty much force cruise lines to allow scooters even though they can pose a safety problem for other passengers.


Hank

Last edited by Hlitner; May 23rd, 2012 at 09:24 AM.
Reply With Quote

  #20  
Old March 8th, 2013, 08:02 AM
Diddydi Diddydi is offline
Cool Cruiser
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Wales
Posts: 87
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hockeygal54 View Post
This is Princess' policy as of today on their web site. I am taking an AK cruise in August with a friend and honestly the only time I even like to or DO smoke is while having an "adult beverage" and preferably on our rather expensive balcony!

"Electronic Cigarettes
The use of electronic cigarettes is permitted in all areas onboard with the exception of dining areas and the Princess Theater. However, should a fellow passenger in the vicinity feel inconvenienced and complain, even after being told the difference between electronic cigarettes and real cigarettes, we will ask the passenger to refrain from smoking the electronic cigarette."

I find the last sentence of this policy aggravating. If a fellow passenger feels "inconvenienced"??? Hell, I feel "inconvenienced" by all the motorized scooters that were on my first Canadian cruise trip and their rude inconsiderate drivers! Did the cruise line tell them to get up and WALK???? NO. And excessive drinking??? I find that inconveniencing too!

Opinions wanted please!

Yes I agree. Personally I don't like smoking, but believe in people having a certain amount of freedom - and what harm to other passengers are electronic cigarettes. Some people just go too far. When they ban smoking totally what will they want to do next - as they will have to have something to moan and campaign about. 9 times out of 10 I never see another passenger on the balconies when I am there, and if someone was having a meal on the balcony then agree it would not be nice to smoke, but think even normal cigarettes should be fine on balconies. Even smokers have human rights. I know my views will not be popular with many passengers but I feel strongly about this. Hec you can even smoke an electronic cigarette on an aeroplane!
Reply With Quote

Reply

Bookmarks


Ad Sponsored By
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:30 AM.


© 1995 - 2014, The Independent Traveler, Inc. All rights reserved.
"A Community of People Who Love To Cruise"
All of the information contained within Cruise Critic is protected by copyright. You may, however, download a single copy only for your personal use.