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Old August 12th, 2012, 02:22 PM
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http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/pub/norovirus/Norovirus.htm

CDC information about norovirus
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Notice that Carnival hasnt had an outbreak (til now) in 3 years

http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/GIlist.htm#2012
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Old August 12th, 2012, 04:14 PM
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Notice that Carnival hasnt had an outbreak (til now) in 3 years

http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/GIlist.htm#2012
i'm pretty sure princess had two last season. cut short as well.

and one sinking ship.
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Hi Kathy! Hope you guys are feeling better. It was nice to meet you and Lynn at our cruise critic meet and greet on the Glory. My two kids got sick also (didn't do any club activities). We were having an excellent time until Wednesday in the middle of the night when my daughter and then son started getting seriously ill like they never had before. By 5:00 am Thursday 8/9 I dialed 911.The nurse said to come right down.The nurse said she had been up for 24 hours straight caring for sick kids and a few adults with the same symptoms. My kids were each given a shot which stopped the vomiting withing 2 hours.Bathroom trips however continued for some time.They were quarentined in their room until Friday at 9am when the nurse saw them again.We were not able to get off in Halifax which was the whole reason we took this cruise.I was told by Guest Relations on the ship that the CDC boarded the Glory in Halifax on 8/9/12 due to so many being ill and did an inspection. I emailed the CDC when I got home to ask for a copy of the report when available.Thank God for our cabin steward, Jamar, who also received a generous tip from us.
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Old August 12th, 2012, 06:28 PM
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I was told by Guest Relations on the ship that the CDC boarded the Glory in Halifax on 8/9/12 due to so many being ill and did an inspection. I emailed the CDC when I got home to ask for a copy of the report when available.Thank God for our cabin steward, Jamar, who also received a generous tip from us.
Hi Claire! Sorry your kids got hit as well. Steven and I were able to do our excursion in Halifax, but Matt wasn't able to go so DH stayed behind with him. When we finished the excursion we went back aboard the ship - and were right behind the Canadian Health inspectors who boarded the ship. I can't say enough about the crew - they were great.
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Sorry to hear that anyone got sick. I hope you all recover quickly. It always sucks to get sick on a vacation. We will be sailing in less than 6 weeks on the Carnival Glory, hope the ship is super clean and that no one else gets sick in the coming weeks.
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[quote=mome2josh;34901281]We were also on the Glory. Our son got Noro pretty bad. He did not participate in any of the Circle C activities but did spend time in the arcade. Dr. on board said it started in the Teenage population. I can guarantee more than 212 people on board were ill. The infirmary was packed and our family witnessed people getting sick a number of times. I think a lot of people did not report it. Unfortunately some selfish person got off the ship in Halifax and then vomited on the sidewalk in town.
That being said. The staff on the ship were more than accommodating. They refunded shore excursions and services purchased that were unusable because of the illness. No questions asked. My room steward payed excellent attention to cleaning our room as well as the many others in our hallway that were experiencing the illness. We had a balcony room, so I left the door open as much as possible to let fresh air in. The crew was cleaning like crazy.
Other than the virus putting a damper on our cruise, we did manage to enjoy it. Weather was absolutely perfect.[/quot

I agree....way more than 212 must have been affected.I heard people vomiting on their balconys (from mine), in their rooms (as I walked down the halls), smelled it in the casino by the portraits, at the elevators, on the stairs, there were barf bags on the desk at guest relations (classy) and that area smelled like vomit too. Once I went up to the serenity lounge I wondered why no one was at the lounge chairs until I smelled crap.The workers did however seem to be trying to stay on top of it but it was just too much. When I took my kids in to the infirmary at 5am Thursday the nurse (who was very kind) said she had been up for 24 hours caring for sick kids and adults with the same symptoms. The office and bathrooms looked like some very bad things had happened there. There were 2 sick kids in there at the time. I spoke to many people who didn't report it because they didn't want to be quarentined and some who reported one family member but not the rest. Maybe if the cruise line offered them $200 credit per person they would stay in their room and not keep spreading it. Sadly, the cruise lines would probably prefer people not to report it so it doesn't mar their reputation.I kept my kids in the room (none of us got off in Nova Scotia) until I took them to the nurse to be released 24 hours later.By the grace of God I did not get sick, I am however a self proclaimed fanatical hand washer. Waiting to hear from CDC to see if their inspection of the Glory in Nova Scotia came up with anything (hopefully it was just noro and nothing worse). Hope everyone is feeling better!
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Hi Claire! Sorry your kids got hit as well. Steven and I were able to do our excursion in Halifax, but Matt wasn't able to go so DH stayed behind with him. When we finished the excursion we went back aboard the ship - and were right behind the Canadian Health inspectors who boarded the ship. I can't say enough about the crew - they were great.
The crew did do their best. It was, I know, a lot for them to handle. Hope the people who went out after us don't experience the same troubles. I feel bad for the people who were cruising for the first (maybe last) time. I asked my kids if they would go on a cruise again. My son did say he would cruise again but to some place warm, my daughter didn't answer me.
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So which side of the coin are you on;

You pay your money,
get to the port,
spend the night (or not)
and wake up with the stomach flu

Do you go get on the ship, or say, "I don't want to take the chance on getting other people sick, I better just go home."

Insurance, no insurance, which side of the coin are you on?

Having had this happen, in 2007 when going on the Liberty in late October, we traveled from Colorado to to Miami, by way of Dallas layover. We ate lunch in the airport in Dallas at a name resturant (I think it was tgi fridays) had prepared sandwiches from their counter window.

Had a long wait to get to Florida and then when late getting in, we went to the hotel, asked about ordering Pizza, and did from a local place near the hotel,

Ate dinner and at 3 in the morning I was sick on the floor (no I do not drink) could barely move.

That morning in line to check in I was sweating, and still very sick to my stomach, going to the bathroom every 15 minutes or so it seamed like. and YES we still went on the ship, I slept for a few hours, ate light, and after a day, I was feeling better.

So yes, I would be on the get on the ship anyway side of the coin.

Where are you?
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Hospital staff are taught to actively rub hands together with soap for 15 seconds, then rinse. How long is that? Sing (to yourself) the A-B-C song or Happy Birthday, TWICE. That's 15 seconds. What I noticed on my last cruise is people who had no clue what the little papers on or beside the exit door were. I saw women using a fistful of those towels to dry their hands. The restroom was well equipped with air blowing dryers. When I suggested those papers were for opening the door, I got a "deer in the headlights" stare. Probably useless to post a sign for these people.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out. It had been 8 years since I had cruised and as soon as I saw that, I knew what it was for and I definitely used it (even though I had tissue of my own to do this anyway).
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I feel bad for the people who were cruising for the first (maybe last) time. I asked my kids if they would go on a cruise again. My son did say he would cruise again but to some place warm, my daughter didn't answer me.
Despite our adventures on this one, 16 YO is already lamenting the fact that he has 10 months until his next cruise. Part of it is that he's had so many good experiences he figures this was not in the ordinary. Not that he hasn't been sick on cruise ships in the past - seven years ago we did an excursion in Jamaica that involved a crazy van driver and bad roads, and both he and the younger son didn't fare well. In fact, they preferred the Noro on this cruise. They got through it much easier.
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Three out of the Four of us on this cruise became very ill with the bug. My kids awoke late Wednesday evening vomiting and then I started by Thursday morning. I called the medical department and we all had to go down to fill out paperwork and they dispensed anti-vomiting medication which did help and told us to remain in our cabin for 24 hours or until cleared. I am very disappointed at the way Carnival handled the situation. They continued to make the announcement to make sure you are washing your hands but I was surprised they did not ask people if they were experiencing any symptoms to contact the medical team to report the issue. I know we completed forms for the CDC but the majority did not. My husband went up to numerous parents to let them know they would provide the medicine for their children at no charge and it helped us and most were surprised that was even an option. He said he saw so many sick people throughout the ship. I really felt that Carnival did not want the people reporting it since then it would be documented and now it looks like only 200 people were ill which is a very low number based on the number I saw in my short time in the waiting area. I know it is not Carnivals fault and I have sailed 3 times with them but will look else where in the future do to the way the situation was handled.
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So which side of the coin are you on;

You pay your money,
get to the port,
spend the night (or not)
and wake up with the stomach flu

Do you go get on the ship, or say, "I don't want to take the chance on getting other people sick, I better just go home."

Insurance, no insurance, which side of the coin are you on?

Having had this happen, in 2007 when going on the Liberty in late October, we traveled from Colorado to to Miami, by way of Dallas layover. We ate lunch in the airport in Dallas at a name resturant (I think it was tgi fridays) had prepared sandwiches from their counter window.

Had a long wait to get to Florida and then when late getting in, we went to the hotel, asked about ordering Pizza, and did from a local place near the hotel,

Ate dinner and at 3 in the morning I was sick on the floor (no I do not drink) could barely move.

That morning in line to check in I was sweating, and still very sick to my stomach, going to the bathroom every 15 minutes or so it seamed like. and YES we still went on the ship, I slept for a few hours, ate light, and after a day, I was feeling better.

So yes, I would be on the get on the ship anyway side of the coin.

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The sequence of events points at a run-of-the-mill food poisoning, which doesn't make you contagious. I've been there - I was also good as new in about 24 hours.
If you are at home up until the day of your cruise, you didn't travel or eat out at restaurants of questionable sanitary standards, and you are sick and vomiting for over 24 hours for no apparent reason - that would be a different story.
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The sequence of events points at a run-of-the-mill food poisoning, which doesn't make you contagious. I've been there - I was also good as new in about 24 hours.
If you are at home up until the day of your cruise, you didn't travel or eat out at restaurants of questionable sanitary standards, and you are sick and vomiting for over 24 hours for no apparent reason - that would be a different story.
That is my point, at the time I did not know what I had, but I knew I could not afford to stay in the hotel until our return flight, or to change flights to go home early. I did watch what I did for the first day, and after a few hours felt it was food poisoning. We were afraid someone would ask why I was sweating at 10 in the morning, inside the building, but they did not and we had a great time.

And I was able to loose the post cruise weight, before the cruise started. Ha Ha.
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Three out of the Four of us on this cruise became very ill with the bug. My kids awoke late Wednesday evening vomiting and then I started by Thursday morning. I called the medical department and we all had to go down to fill out paperwork and they dispensed anti-vomiting medication which did help and told us to remain in our cabin for 24 hours or until cleared. I am very disappointed at the way Carnival handled the situation. They continued to make the announcement to make sure you are washing your hands but I was surprised they did not ask people if they were experiencing any symptoms to contact the medical team to report the issue. I know we completed forms for the CDC but the majority did not. My husband went up to numerous parents to let them know they would provide the medicine for their children at no charge and it helped us and most were surprised that was even an option. He said he saw so many sick people throughout the ship. I really felt that Carnival did not want the people reporting it since then it would be documented and now it looks like only 200 people were ill which is a very low number based on the number I saw in my short time in the waiting area. I know it is not Carnivals fault and I have sailed 3 times with them but will look else where in the future do to the way the situation was handled.
Seriously??? How they handled it? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out one needs anti nausea medicine from the infirmary. Each passenger must be TOLD the medicine is available? Do you think other cruiselines do that?
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We're good to go - armed with oodles amounts of hand sanitizer, clorox wipes, and our own supply of Cipro... Stinks that we're going thru this, but so grateful that we got the email notification yesterday afternoon that something was amiss on Glory :-(
Does Cipro work for Norovirus?
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I believe noro is a virus so no antibiotics would work but I not positive....I have boxes of Xifaxan if antibiotics would help Im sure the ones I have are the best for that.
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We just disembarked Glory this morning. DH and I were fine, but the boys got the bug. It seemed the kids were especially hard hit on this one. It was unbelievable how fast it spread. And yes, the crew has been working like mad to clean everything.
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clorox wipes
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You need Clorox Clean Up with Bleach
Thanks for the info...
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clorox wipes
will not kill Noro from surfaces...

You need Clorox Clean Up with Bleach
'Redi Wipes Disinfecting' also kill Norovirus. Found it at Wal-mart...

Amphyl III Disinfectant Deodorant Spray for Hospital Use kills Norovirus. Found it on Amazon
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