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Old July 24th, 2013, 03:48 PM
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Does anyone know at what point Carnival invokes the fuel surcharge?
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Old July 24th, 2013, 03:52 PM
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whenever they feel like it. the price of oil is far above the strike price.
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Old July 24th, 2013, 03:56 PM
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Even though oil is well above the price needed to trigger the surcharge, I would expect it would take either (1) a large spike in the price or (2) other lines invoking a surcharge for Carnival to start charging it.
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The fuel surcharge is already added into the price of the cruise, it is no longer a separate charge that you have to pay for
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The fuel surcharge is already added into the price of the cruise, it is no longer a separate charge that you have to pay for
Except that it says in the contract that they can charge a fuel supplement if they want to.
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The fuel surcharge is already added into the price of the cruise, it is no longer a separate charge that you have to pay for
Not true.
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I always cringe when someone puts up a thread about this, as I would hate to put ideas into the CCL beard's heads!!
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Does anyone know at what point Carnival invokes the fuel surcharge?
All of the cruise lines have learned to use fuel price derivatives (futures) to stabilize their fuel costs for about 1-2 years at a time. Huge market volatility could trigger a surcharge if the derivatives don't cover the actual costs.

As we go into 2014 and towards 2015, when the 0.1% sulfur fuel requirements for the US ECA come into effect, you will see either a fuel surcharge, mostly on those ships operating inside the ECA a lot (NOLA based, and Alaska), or more likely in my opinion, a substantial jump in ticket price for those cruises, as I believe the fuel cost will exceed what the surcharge can be, and it won't go away, that high fuel cost will remain for all ships operating in the US ECA.
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I always cringe when someone puts up a thread about this, as I would hate to put ideas into the CCL beard's heads!!
Just because they read all these posts?
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I actually read (part) of the contract tonight for the first time. Seems very one sided and though I bet it was written by the best corporate lawyers Carnival can buy it seems like it could be challenged based on basic contract law. It would cost a ton of time and money (which I as a cruiser don't have) and at 9.00 per day per person you could not even talk to a lawyers receptionist without exceeding the max they could charge you
(assume 2 per cabin x 9 per day x 7 days = 126.00)

The S storm that would hit the internet if a cruise line suddenly dumped max surcharge on fully paid cruisers would likely cost them more business then its worth. If you haven't paid in full and they implement a charge that's one thing (would still be pissed). Given the number of people that book way in advance, which cruise lines like as it helps maximize loads/profits, a broad application of fuel surcharges would likely drive early bookers and other cruisers away.

Would I walk away from a 2500 cruise for 125 bucks? No. Would I switch to all inclusive vacations and slag the cruise line every chance I got? You bet
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Both cruises I went on refunded me the fuel charge at the end of the cruise.


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I always cringe when someone puts up a thread about this, as I would hate to put ideas into the CCL beard's heads!!
Youre right they keep asking and the beards read this forum so why give them ideas.
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Not true.
so you don't think the fuel cost is built into the cost of the cruise?
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Not true.
Acutually it is true. The price of a cruise and the pricing structure is based on the cost of doing business. The surcharge "option" has been around for maybe 10 years since the oringinal spike. The surcharge is in place to handle unusual events in the world that might make a spike so high, that the budget for fuel is blown out. So the surcharge is the emergency card they have to play when needed.
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I have never heard of this. Has anyone else ? We paid a surcharge once when they first implemented it, but it was not refunded to us. Why would they charge it and then refund it.?
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I have never heard of this. Has anyone else ? We paid a surcharge once when they first implemented it, but it was not refunded to us. Why would they charge it and then refund it.?

If I remember correctly, they instituted the surcharge on all cruises during a time period whether paid in full, booked and even after final payment. Then the were sued by the State of Florida since they had changed contracts and refunded surcharges to all except those who booked after the charges were implemented.
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We paid surcharge once, on another cruise line.
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The fuel surcharge is already added into the price of the cruise, it is no longer a separate charge that you have to pay for
Not correct. They can add the fuel charge in addition to what you already paid.
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my first cruise in 2009 they had added the fuel surcharge as well as the other lines. Then the price dropped and with the disclaimer if the price exceeds 70 a barrel, blah blah. but as we all know, to this date there hasn't been a charge. well, at least on a 2nd line lol. I agree with the one poster, if the other lines add it as a separate charge, then so will carnival I'm sure. but then again, if their "smart" they won't. but we know it will get added into the cruise fare, but would look good on their part not to lmao.
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I figure the language is still in the contract just in case there would be another jump like we have had in prior years. With the way things go in the middle east you never know and if there was a big price jump the lines could lose a bunch. I think most would understand the reasoning behind it if it did happen.
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