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Old May 1st, 2014, 10:07 AM
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I believe I know why they paint the tops of the life boats yellow or orange but they sure take away from the beauty of the ship paint scheme. Can't they put a white cover over the life boats and remove them when needed ? Is there another way to disguise the lifeboat, what if they install a smoke color plexiglass sheet in from of them. Suggestions.
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When you're escaping from a sinking ship, the extra minute it can take to remove a cover (one that's there for vanity reasons only) can be deadly.
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I would rather see a colored boat that is ready immediately if needed. Sometimes I really don't even notice them so much since they are just part of the ship. If they put a cover on them it would most likely take precious minutes to get them off. Same goes for some piece of plexi. Also, it would just be another maintenance issue and $$$$.

I know this isn't a safety thing, but what do you do if you don't like the color of the carpet somewhere you are staying? Have them cover it up? This applies to many things. Just realize they might save your butt sometime and move on.

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The simple presence of lifeboats - meaning their visibility - is an important psychological comfort to many cruisers. Hiding that presence, in addition to possibly hindering their use in an emergency, would remove that comfort.
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When you're escaping from a sinking ship, the extra minute it can take to remove a cover (one that's there for vanity reasons only) can be deadly.
Well said. I never understand why people put looks before safety. I never want them in my way while trying to escape. They would probably still be putting on makeup.
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I don't think the orange or yellow of the lifeboats detracts from the beauty of the ship. It is, afterall, not a hotel but a sea going vessel and the nautical orange of lifeboats is appropriate and expected.

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I believe I know why they paint the tops of the life boats yellow or orange but they sure take away from the beauty of the ship paint scheme. Can't they put a white cover over the life boats and remove them when needed ? Is there another way to disguise the lifeboat, what if they install a smoke color plexiglass sheet in from of them. Suggestions.
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I believe I know why they paint the tops of the life boats yellow or orange but they sure take away from the beauty of the ship paint scheme. Can't they put a white cover over the life boats and remove them when needed ? Is there another way to disguise the lifeboat, what if they install a smoke color plexiglass sheet in from of them. Suggestions.
What an odd thing to worry about. I've always accepted the lifeboat colors just as they are without a second thought. Maybe instead of putting a white cover on the lifeboats, the entire ship could be painted orange or yellow. Kind of reminds me of the pink submarine in "Operation Petticoat".

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What an odd thing to worry about. I've always accepted the lifeboat colors just as they are without a second thought. Maybe instead of putting a white cover on the lifeboats, the entire ship could be painted orange or yellow. Kind of reminds me of the pink submarine in "Operation Petticoat".


Or even the Beatles' Yellow Submarine.

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Lifeboats also need to have a clear and open path for both deploying and deck boarding. Having a plexiglass screen anywhere that would block their view would also likely obstruct their deployment and/or boarding, and - as with a cover - would be one more unnecessary step to be taken in removing it, delaying evacuation in an emergency.

I am sure that all aspects surrounding lifeboats falls under the SOLAS maritime regulations and altering anything that could interfere with the safe operation of the lifeboats would compromise that compliance.
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Agree! They are the way they are for a reason - not sure why that would matter.
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I know! White wash. That way they blend in, but when launched, the waves will wash the color off, and the boat becomes orange again. I'm brilliant, I'll make a million selling this idea to the cruise lines. Why didn't I think of this years ago, I could have retired by now.

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Life must be good when all one has to complain about is the color of the lifeboats!
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I believe I know why they paint the tops of the life boats yellow or orange but they sure take away from the beauty of the ship paint scheme. Can't they put a white cover over the life boats and remove them when needed ? Is there another way to disguise the lifeboat, what if they install a smoke color plexiglass sheet in from of them. Suggestions.
If the lifeboat color clash is such a problem for you, perhaps you should only look at Disney ships in the future:

Disney ships have yellow-colored lifeboats, rather than the traditional regulation color of orange. Disney was granted special permission by the U.S. Coast Guard to paint the lifeboats yellow, in order to keep with the special color theming of the ship – the colors of Mickey Mouse himself.
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OP....

Do you like all the painting and decorating on ships in NCL fleet?

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If the lifeboat color clash is such a problem for you, perhaps you should only look at Disney ships in the future:

Disney ships have yellow-colored lifeboats, rather than the traditional regulation color of orange. Disney was granted special permission by the U.S. Coast Guard to paint the lifeboats yellow, in order to keep with the special color theming of the ship – the colors of Mickey Mouse himself.
Not really correct. First, the USCG has nothing to do with the ability of a ship to change it's color of lifeboat, particularly one that is not flagged in the US. Secondly, according to the Marine Safety Committee of the IMO, which promulgates the SOLAS requirements (and which is the only source for a change in SOLAS requirements), a lifesaving device must be:

be of a highly visible colour on all parts where this will assist detection

While "International Orange" is far more common (it used to be required), any bright color is acceptable. Various flag state and class rules interpret this to be limited to "strong chromatic colors", so that whites and grays are excluded. I believe that the Oasis/Allure boats are yellow as well.

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If the lifeboat color clash is such a problem for you, perhaps you should only look at Disney ships in the future:

Disney ships have yellow-colored lifeboats, rather than the traditional regulation color of orange. Disney was granted special permission by the U.S. Coast Guard to paint the lifeboats yellow, in order to keep with the special color theming of the ship – the colors of Mickey Mouse himself.

This is an I really want to know the answer type question.....


Are Disney ships registered in U.S.?

If not, why would U.S. Coast Guard be the ruling authority as to color of lifeboats? Wouldn't that be the authority of the Coast Guard in the country of Registry?

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If the lifeboat color clash is such a problem for you, perhaps you should only look at Disney ships in the future:

Disney ships have yellow-colored lifeboats, rather than the traditional regulation color of orange. Disney was granted special permission by the U.S. Coast Guard to paint the lifeboats yellow, in order to keep with the special color theming of the ship – the colors of Mickey Mouse himself.
As do most of the RCI ship classes - Oasis / Freedom / Voyager / Brilliance. The exception is Vision and Sovereign class, which are white bottom / orange top. Oasis and Brilliance class are white bottom / yellow top, and Freedom and Voyager class are yellow bottom / yellow top.

Unless "Disney yellow" is a special color, I guess they were granted special permission too or there is a standard yellow that can be used as well as orange.
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This is an I really want to know the answer type question.....


Are Disney ships registered in U.S.?

If not, why would U.S. Coast Guard be the ruling authority as to color of lifeboats? Wouldn't that be the authority of the Coast Guard in the country of Registry?

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Disney is registered in the Bahamas.

They had to undergo testing with whoever the powers that be are (maybe a combination of Coast Guard and other international groups?) to show that yellow shows up as well as orange when the lifeboats are deployed at sea.
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Disney is registered in the Bahamas.

They had to undergo testing with whoever the powers that be are (maybe a combination of Coast Guard and other international groups?) to show that yellow shows up as well as orange when the lifeboats are deployed at sea.
The boats come in standard colors from the manufacturers, who are the ones that apply to the IMO for approval of the color. So it is nothing to do with the cruise lines, other than to pick out an approved boat color from the boat manufacturers catalog. The boats are not painted, that is the color of the gel coat of the fiberglass. Matching paint can be applied when the gel coat finish dulls too much to be attractive to the passengers (though the dull finish may appeal to the OP). Boats are waxed regularly to keep the finish from dulling.
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