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Old March 23rd, 2006, 02:51 PM
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Default Picture of STAR Princess fire damaga

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Here's a picture of the damage to the STAR Princess.

Another sad day for the cruise industry.
Our thoughts and prayers are with everyone at this tragic time.
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Old March 23rd, 2006, 05:42 PM
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Thank you, first photo I've seen,
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Old March 23rd, 2006, 05:49 PM
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You can read about the extensive damage but it has to be seen to be believed. Whoever said 'a picture is worth a thousand words' had it right.

Thanks for posting it. Very, very sad.
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Old March 23rd, 2006, 08:54 PM
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NTSB is going down and IMHO Princess is in deep dodo. No matter what started the fire in ONE cabin for it to spread like that IMHO says that the ship was not up to SOLAS standards.
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Old March 23rd, 2006, 09:18 PM
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NTSB is going down and IMHO Princess is in deep dodo. No matter what started the fire in ONE cabin for it to spread like that IMHO says that the ship was not up to SOLAS standards.
If it was not up to SOLAS standards, the USCG would not allow them to operate out of US ports. So let's not start playing the blame game until we get an official report.
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Old March 23rd, 2006, 10:42 PM
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Isn't it amazing the "instant experts" that are quick to reach conclusions about inidents such as the Star fire.

I wonder how much experience in accident investigation went into the conclusion that the Star did not meet SOLAS standards.

Amazing!!!!!
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Yes, I agree. Kneejerk overeactions are silly. It's not a sad day for the cruise industry. If a fire breaks out at a Holiday Inn it's not a sad day for the hotel industry. It's a sad day for those that are grieving for loss of life. Lets keep things in perspective.
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Default Big difference between hotel fire and ship fire

It is easier to walk away from a hotel fire than swim away from a ship fire. That is a given.

Come on and get serious. Face the facts.

Trapped in either can certainly be deadly but once clear of the fire there is a big difference from a hotel fire than a ship fire.

Just out for the fun of it please tell me how many fire trucks rushed out to help put out the fire on the ship. Get the picture now.
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I don't know anything about SOLAS standards. However, I hope someone explains why properly operating sprinklers wouldn't confine a fire to the cabin where it started.
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Scary. I know this is something we all have to consider when we sail but what scares me is the melted door locks.
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C'mon everyone ... let's grow up a bit here!

The photo is what it is ... everyone wants to see what happened, and there's nothing wrong with that!

It's just a sad fact that this kind of tragedy should occur even in such modern times with "supposedly" the latest in safety technologies.

It's just mind-boggling to me how something like this could possibly happen.

It's almost like it was arson or terrorism as opposed to being an accident.

I'm NOT saying it is arson/terrorism, but I'm saying those two reasons would be more believable than being an accident caused by ONE lit cigarette.
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I don't know anything about SOLAS standards. However, I hope someone explains why properly operating sprinklers wouldn't confine a fire to the cabin where it started.
My point was what FUELED that fire to do so much damage. I know back in the 80s the new builts were being made with very little real wood because of the fire haz that SOLAS had put into their standards to reduce their use on ships.

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I'm NOT saying it is arson/terrorism, but I'm saying those two reasons would be more believable than being an accident caused by ONE lit cigarette
Right, while a couple posters want to attack smokers, I may point out to them the number of flame wars on a number of CC forums started by a poster say, "I am safe with MY iron and I am going to bring it on board no matter what anybody says."
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It is easier to walk away from a hotel fire than swim away from a ship fire. That is a given.

Come on and get serious. Face the facts.

Trapped in either can certainly be deadly but once clear of the fire there is a big difference from a hotel fire than a ship fire.

Just out for the fun of it please tell me how many fire trucks rushed out to help put out the fire on the ship. Get the picture now.
I wasn't comparing the dynamics of ship fire versus a hotel fire. My point was that it's not a "sad day for the cruise industry" as an earlier poster remarked. Only sad for those affected. Is anybody here gonna cancel their cruise because of this incident? Will there be massive cancellations industry wide? I doubt it.
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My point was that it's not a "sad day for the cruise industry"
It should be!

Any time that there is loss of life I am saddened. I don't think that the cruise industry is so callous that they aren't saddened by a passenger's death.
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It should be!

Any time that there is loss of life I am saddened. I don't think that the cruise industry is so callous that they aren't saddened by a passenger's death.
I agree, they should be saddened. But if you think the cruise industry is not callous read "Devils on the Deep Blue Sea" by Kristoffer A. Garin.
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NO ONE in the general public knows the cause of the fire yet, exactly what damage has been sustained in the affected areas and to what extent -- I hope you guys can discuss amongst yourselves in a civil manner ? Okay? The news shows like Inside Edition will be all over anyone they can find who was on the ship and will probably lead to even more theories etc. Out of respect for those who were injured and the gentleman who lost his life and their families, let's play nice here, please???? if for no other reason....
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Thanks for posting the picture. We had a lovely cruise on the Star Princess in September and its sad to see her looking like that. I agree it is a sad day!
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I made an enhancement of the MSNBC photo to remove the darkened areas. Double click on the image to magnify the photo.
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Just finished watching the video from a Dr. who was on the Star. After viewing it (video of cabin) and pictures of the outside I'm glad to see that more people were not injured. Dr. said people didn't panick, and everyone was pretty orderly. Dr. & his family were in one of the cabins that was damaged.

Sheds new light on what actually happened. I hope all of the injured recover. Makes me really think hard about "what I would do in this situation" and how I can be prepared. I'm definately going to take some of the advice mentioned in other threads to heart.

For those who contributed advice...thanks..I'm listening.

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Damage. Wow!

Congrats to Princess on their response, and to all the cruise passengers that followed the crew instructions to safety. It's good to know the system works.
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