An Introduction to the Ships and Classes of the HAL Fleet

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What are the dimensions of the angled SS cabins on the Vista class ships?

I am interested in the cabin and veranda sizes as compared to the normal SS suite sizes on deck 8 of the Zuiderdam. For example 8094 versus 8072.
Victoria Harbour, ON
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We enjoy cruising on the smaller ships like the Princendam, and hope to take more cruises on her. We have done short and long cruises on varies ships of the HAL fleet. The main reason we enjoy cruising with HAL is that their ships are smaller and more intimate. The article was very informative and interesting.
Allan & Marlane
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Originally posted by puli
What are the dimensions of the angled SS cabins on the Vista class ships?

I am interested in the cabin and veranda sizes as compared to the normal SS suite sizes on deck 8 of the Zuiderdam. For example 8094 versus 8072.
We had the angled SZ on the Oosterdam last month and have booked 8094 and 8099 on some upcoming sailings on the Noordam and Zuiderdam. DH paced it out and figured the little sitting area in the angle to be about 10 square feet EXTRA (as we also checked out a regular SS, which is the same except for that bump-out). It was pleasant for room service breakfast. The balcony is also larger.

However, be aware that while the SZ if fully covered and facing against the wind (so you are totally "protected" unless it's coming broadsides), the two aft-ward SSs face the "wrong way" and are only partially covered because of the way the Lido above curves around a bit differently. On the other hand, the "wrong way" provides a better view of where you're going.

Hope this is helpful!

Best,
Mary-Lou
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Oregon
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Originally posted by DrFUN
We had the angled SZ on the Oosterdam last month and have booked 8094 and 8099 on some upcoming sailings on the Noordam and Zuiderdam. DH paced it out and figured the little sitting area in the angle to be about 10 square feet EXTRA (as we also checked out a regular SS, which is the same except for that bump-out). It was pleasant for room service breakfast. The balcony is also larger.

However, be aware that while the SZ if fully covered and facing against the wind (so you are totally "protected" unless it's coming broadsides), the two aft-ward SSs face the "wrong way" and are only partially covered because of the way the Lido above curves around a bit differently. On the other hand, the "wrong way" provides a better view of where you're going.

Hope this is helpful!

Best,
Mary-Lou
Thanks for your response. We did decide to take 8094. Hopefully the small balcony section that is not angled will surfice while we are at sea and the larger section will be good for port approaches and dockside relaxing.
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Originally posted by puli
Thanks for your response. We did decide to take 8094. Hopefully the small balcony section that is not angled will surfice while we are at sea and the larger section will be good for port approaches and dockside relaxing.
So glad the info was helpful! Have a great cruise!
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I want to know if the Lanai room is just as nice as a balcony room. I realize Lanai rooms open onto a public deck. Is the deck crowded or will I enjoy sitting outside my room as well as having a balcony room?

Thanks for the help.
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At Sea I have never seen the Promenade Deck crowded. But it's still a Public Area. People walk allong your deckchairs and people can look into your Cabin.
We enjoyed the Privacy of our Balcony very much (Rotterdam Veranda suite).
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Sarnia On Canada
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Can any one tell me if the inside cabins 3340 -thru 3365 J - category on lower promenade deck on the Roterdam are larger than the inside cabins on deck 5 Main deck - shows as 182-293 sg. ft. Where are the 293 sg. ft inside cabins located? Thanks
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CRUISES TAKEN
70 Days MAASDAM JAN 2014 CARIBBEAN/BRAZIL
25 Days NOORDAM DEC 2013 CARIBBEAN
88 Days ROTTERDAM Jan 2013 FAR EAST
21 Days RYNDAM June 2012 BALTIC/NORWAY
74 Days ROTTERDAM Dec 2011 HAWAII/SOUTH PACIFIC/PERU
14 Days MAASDAM May 2011 CANADA NEW ENGLAND
42 Days MAASDAM July 2009 VOYAGE VIKINGS
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Originally posted by fourel
I want to know if the Lanai room is just as nice as a balcony room. I realize Lanai rooms open onto a public deck. Is the deck crowded or will I enjoy sitting outside my room as well as having a balcony room?

Thanks for the help.
We sailed in a Lanai on the Maasdam. It was very convenient to the Lower Promenade, of course... but the room is slightly smaller than a standard outside or veranda stateroom in the way it's configured.

The 'sofa' was more of a 'stingy loveseat' - really not comfortable seating for two people; especially not people of my & my partner's size.

In the future, we'll opt for a standard outside, or a veranda if it's in the budget rather than a Lanai.

YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary).
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Warwick, R.I. , USA
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Originally posted by Bluwater7
Can any one tell me if the inside cabins 3340 -thru 3365 J - category on lower promenade deck on the Roterdam are larger than the inside cabins on deck 5 Main deck - shows as 182-293 sg. ft. Where are the 293 sg. ft inside cabins located? Thanks
The Rotterdam J-category cabins on Lower Promenade between the forward and mid-ship elevators are the same size as the typical "large" insides elsewhere on the ship. They are the same configuration, at about 186 sq. ft. Very generous size, and most comfortable.
I don't know of any inside cabins that are as large as 293 sq. ft. on this ship. There are a few "sideways" cabins that are definitely larger, but not that big.

The same is true on all the S- and R-class ships. The only insides that I know of that might come close to 293 sq. ft. are the J-cabins on Main Deck of the Vista/Signature ships, and some I-cabins on an upper deck of the same ships.
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[quote=RuthC;35444934]The Rotterdam J-category cabins on Lower Promenade between the forward and mid-ship elevators are the same size as the typical "large" insides elsewhere on the ship. They are the same configuration, at about 186 sq. ft. Very generous size, and most comfortable.
I don't know of any inside cabins that are as large as 293 sq. ft. on this ship. There are a few "sideways" cabins that are definitely larger, but not that big. c
The same is true on all the S- and R-class ships. The only insides that I know of that might come close to 293 sq. ft. are the J-cabins on Main Deck of the Vista/Signature ships, and some I-cabins on an upper deck of the same ships. [/QUOTE

Thanks - that area is going to be our home for 88 day starting in Jan. glad to hear you say comfortable. We have never been on Lower Promenade deck before - so looking forward to this trip.
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25 Days NOORDAM DEC 2013 CARIBBEAN
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21 Days RYNDAM June 2012 BALTIC/NORWAY
74 Days ROTTERDAM Dec 2011 HAWAII/SOUTH PACIFIC/PERU
14 Days MAASDAM May 2011 CANADA NEW ENGLAND
42 Days MAASDAM July 2009 VOYAGE VIKINGS
28 Days STATENDAM Sept 2007 SOUTH PACIFIC NEW ZEALAND
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Rotterdam has a pool amidship with a bar, music or entertainment. On the fantail is another wading-style pool with chaise lounges laid in. I had cruised on Royal Caribbean- Legend of the Seas which had the same noisy pool amidships but then had another in quiet solarium near the back of the ship. This was heaven for me: relaxing and allowing for uninterrupted reading. I loved the HAL-Rotterdam cruise to Peru and I would like to know if any of the Hal-ships have the pool layout I described.
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Originally posted by scottcs@aol.com
Rotterdam has a pool amidship with a bar, music or entertainment. On the fantail is another wading-style pool with chaise lounges laid in. I had cruised on Royal Caribbean- Legend of the Seas which had the same noisy pool amidships but then had another in quiet solarium near the back of the ship. This was heaven for me: relaxing and allowing for uninterrupted reading. I loved the HAL-Rotterdam cruise to Peru and I would like to know if any of the Hal-ships have the pool layout I described.
All the HAL ships had an aft pool. The pools on the Veendam and Rotterdam were removed, and replaced with the Retreat concept.
Further expansion of that concept was canceled. So, choose any ship other than these two, and you will find an aft pool. How quiet it is back there will vary from ship to ship, and cruise to cruise.
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Originally posted by Host Walt
To add to Doug's summary, here are photos of examples of each class.

Prinsendam:




S-Class (Statendam):




R Class (Rotterdam):



Vista Class (Zuiderdam):

Is it possible to post photos of all of the HAL ships?

Thanks!

Tom Barton
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Originally posted by trbarton
Is it possible to post photos of all of the HAL ships?

Thanks!

Tom Barton
HAL already has pictures of each and every ship in their fleet on their website.
New York City
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Originally posted by kangforpres
The Signature class are the Eurodam and Nieuw Amsterdam, no additional ships planned for HAL at this time.
Holland America has contracted with Fincantieri (builders of all of the current ships except the Prinsendam) to construct the first of its 99,000 gross ton, 2660-passenger Pinnacle-class ships, which will be a bit larger than the 87,000 gross ton, 2100-passenger Signature-class vessels, and is scheduled for delivery in Fall of 2015.

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HAL ms Rotterdam (VI), July 15, 2017 Viking Passage - Norway, Shetland Islands, Iceland, Greenland, Newfoundland and Nova Scotia to Boston out of Rotterdam with family & friends
HAL ms Koningsdam (I), January 8, 2017 Eastern Caribbean - Grand Turk, Puerto Rico, Saint Thomas & Bahamas out of Ft Lauderdale with friends
HAL ms Amsterdam (I), September 25, 2016 Pacific Coastal repositioning to Vancouver out of Seattle on my own
HAL ms Oosterdam (I), August 16, 2016 Western Mediterranean Explorer - Italy, Monaco, France, Spain & Morocco to Barcelona out of Citavecchia (Rome) with family
HAL ms Eurodam (I), March 27, 2016 Passage to Spain - trans-Atlantic repositioning to Barcelona via Madeira Islands and southern Spain out of Ft Lauderdale on my own
HAL ms Maasdam (V), August 29, 2015 Canada/New England to Montreal out of Boston with friends
HAL ms Statendam (V), May 13, 2015 Pacific Coastal repositioning to Vancouver out of San Diego with friends
HAL ms Zaandam (III), January 30, 2015 South America & Antarctica - Chile, Argentina, the Falklands & Uruguay out of Valparaiso (Santiago) to Buenos Aires with family
HAL ms Volendam (III), June 28, 2014 Alaska Inner Passage to Vancouver out of Skagway with family
HAL ms Westerdam (III), December 14, 2013 Eastern Caribbean - Grand Turk, Puerto Rico, Saint-Martin/Sint Maartan & Bahamas out of Ft Lauderdale with friends
HAL ms Prinsendam (II), June 17, 2013 Celtic Explorer - England, Guernsey, Wales, Ireland & Scotland to Amsterdam out of London with family
HAL ms Ryndam (III), January 20, 2013 Western Caribbean - Honduras, Guatemala & Mexico out of Tampa with friends
HAL ms Veendam (IV), April 22, 2012 Bermuda out of New York with best friend
HAL ms Nieuw Amsterdam (IV), July 28, 2011 Croatia, Greece & Turkey out of Venice with family & friends
HAL ss Rotterdam (V), August 9, 1975 Nassau & Bermuda out of New York with family
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Hello All,

Having only been on Veendam and Zaandam, it still seems to me that Zaandam and Volendam, are the only 2 members of a separate class of ships. They are virtually identical twins except for decor. Plus they are also the only 2 themed "dam" ships that I am aware of: Volendam-flowers and Zaandam-music.

They remind me of the Coral Princess and Island Princess.... two identical ships with only decor differences, the only 2 ships of their type in the Princess fleet.

Rick