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Old June 6th, 2008, 12:19 PM
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Default Freedom Europe 2009 Sailings Cancelled

Hot off the presses. All Freedom Europe 2009 sailings have been cancelled, and the Freedom will now be sailing out of Ft. Lauderdale doing 6 and 8 day Carribean cruises.
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Old June 6th, 2008, 12:19 PM
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Hot off the presses. All Freedom Europe 2009 sailings have been cancelled, and the Freedom will now be sailing out of Ft. Lauderdale doing 6 and 8 day Carribean cruises.
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Old June 6th, 2008, 12:25 PM
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ooooh, that sounds like something I need to look into!
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Old June 6th, 2008, 12:26 PM
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Unfortunately I just got confirmation of it, so I don't believe that the information is on the website yet.
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Well, I guess all the people that thought Europe was the goldmine for Carnival were wrong.
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Old June 6th, 2008, 12:28 PM
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Did they say why?
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Did they say why?
I'm guessing that when Carnival came up with the Europe strategy that had no idea how myopic, stupid and expensive the airlines would get.

Not to mention the whole US Dollar thingy.
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Old June 6th, 2008, 12:32 PM
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Did they say why?
Looking at the letter that's going to be sent out, it does not give a reason. But I'm with the other poster. I think it may be a fuel/air cost issue.
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I'm guessing that when Carnival came up with the Europe strategy that had no idea how myopic, stupid and expensive the airlines would get.

Not to mention the whole US Dollar thingy.
I am just happy that our cruise to Europe is still a go. I can't even imagine how the pax think of their cruise being canceled. I just booked all of our excursions this morning and since April, most of them have gone up at least $10.00.
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I'm guessing that when Carnival came up with the Europe strategy that had no idea how myopic, stupid and expensive the airlines would get.

Not to mention the whole US Dollar thingy.
Yes, but Im talking about several posters in the last couple of weeks that said carnival would either park ships or send them over to Europe because of fuel costs.

Im betting Uncle Bob is glad he got out when he did. Uncle Gerry is going to have to make some tough choices in the coming years.
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The expense of moving a ship the size of the Freedom across the Atlantic might be a factor. Plus, they have to be able to produce a good product at a reasonable cost to the passenger. (IMO)
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This will also cause the 2009 Euro Liberty Cruises to rise. I bet Carnivals ability to secure cruise air also factored into the equation.
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This really bums me out!!

We were set for next June!!

Now what???
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Wasn't Freedom doing the Med cruises? So they aren't going to have a ship in the Med just Liberty doing the Baltic itineraries?
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Wasn't Freedom doing the Med cruises? So they aren't going to have a ship in the Med just Liberty doing the Baltic itineraries?
Yes, so no Rome departures..Just Liberty from Dover.
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Makes me wonder if Carnival is going to have the Dream released sooner than expected.
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Wasn't Freedom doing the Med cruises? So they aren't going to have a ship in the Med just Liberty doing the Baltic itineraries?
Liberty will be doing Med in Sept and Oct 09, but that is it.
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I'm guessing that when Carnival came up with the Europe strategy that had no idea how myopic, stupid and expensive the airlines would get.

Not to mention the whole US Dollar thingy.
I wish all the news of the day was presented this clearly! They should just say what they mean, like big_duck!
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I'm guessing that when Carnival came up with the Europe strategy that had no idea how myopic, stupid and expensive the airlines would get.

Not to mention the whole US Dollar thingy.
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Looking at the letter that's going to be sent out, it does not give a reason. But I'm with the other poster. I think it may be a fuel/air cost issue.
That makes sense. I know for my Panama cruise I had to take cruise air as I couldn't find anything close to that price. Just have to keep looking
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Makes me wonder if Carnival is going to have the Dream released sooner than expected.
Hmmm, that could indeed be the other shoe.
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