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Old February 10th, 2009, 09:00 AM
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Old February 11th, 2009, 12:39 PM
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Well I for one am not surprised at all!

I think many folks are not too thrilled with the amount of time and money it takes to fly down to San Juan to catch the ship in Puerto Rico. Flying into Miami and Ft Lauderdale is far less time consuming and less expensive than flying into San Juan...plus for most folks there are is a larger selection of non-stops. Then let us not forget how convenient it is to take a cab to the ships from the Miami and Ft Lauderdale airports.

In addition, there have been many reports and stories for some time now that AOS sails full out of San Juan by loading up with many locals on late bookings who pay extremeley low prices just to fill up the ship.

So, does this news surprise me? NO...actually it would seem to be a smart business move by RCCL in a time when they need to minimize operating expenses and maximize revenues...I for one congratulate RCCL for making this move.

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We had an absolute fantastic time on the Adventure of the Seas in Feb/March 2008 out of San Juan. Our 7-day cruise was represented by lots of Canadians, Americans from the mainland and residents of Puerto Rico. This was our 3rd cruise out of San Juan. The other two were on the Carnival Destiny.

We never encountered any problem with any particular group of people. As a matter of fact we loved the diversity of people. We do speak some Spanish and a few other languages. May be that might have made it easier.

I personally do not believe that because of the low prices given to residents of Puerto Rico the cruises out of San Juan are not profitable or bad. We all know that we have special resident rates in Florida, Texas, just to name a few to "fill.


Flying out of San Juan is indeed quite more expensive
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Well I for one am not surprised at all!

I think many folks are not too thrilled with the amount of time and money it takes to fly down to San Juan to catch the ship in Puerto Rico. Flying into Miami and Ft Lauderdale is far less time consuming and less expensive than flying into San Juan...plus for most folks there are is a larger selection of non-stops. Then let us not forget how convenient it is to take a cab to the ships from the Miami and Ft Lauderdale airports.

In addition, there have been many reports and stories for some time now that AOS sails full out of San Juan by loading up with many locals on late bookings who pay extremeley low prices just to fill up the ship.

So, does this news surprise me? NO...actually it would seem to be a smart business move by RCCL in a time when they need to minimize operating expenses and maximize revenues...I for one congratulate RCCL for making this move.

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I am sorry to see them move out of San Juan. Not sure how much of a financial hit they take, but the convenience of a 7-day cruise to cruise farther south on a 7-day itinerary made it feasible for people who can only cruise 7-days at a time.

Puerto Rico was also a wonderful place to have a pre and post cruise. The history and its people are awesome.

I have read so many threads (that's actually what I commented on above) that people did not care for all the locals to be on board and that they were rude etc. We never found that. The AOS was a great ship to cruise on, not sure if I would cruise on the Serenade.
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Were looking at doing a southern cruise with RCCL in 2011, but it would be nice to have the Voyager class ships there. Yes the airline tickets are NOT cheap. I checked for something in 2010 and were looking for four tickets around $2000 . I don't know the Eastern looks more like it until we get closer to book the cruise.

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Air fares to San Juan are getting a lot more reasonable. And since the cruise fare tends to be a little lower out of San Juan, it tends to balance out.

I'm VERY sad to hear about this. I prefer the southern Caribbean islands and don't have the time to do a 9-12 day cruise out of Florida or Cape Liberty at this time.

I hope they replace Adventure with another Voyager class. Serenade does a nice itinerary, but she's such a small ship. I feel like they will need more capacity out of San Juan.
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I have cruised out of San Juan on 4 ships now over a 14 year span. Airfare is no more expensive now than it was then if you shop around for a sale. Even this past November, we paid less than $500 each for non-stop flights. As mentioned it is a great pre or post cruise location. I am so glad we did it. I recall that there used to be 7 seven ships at least sailing from San Juan on a weekend day. Now that has been greatly reduced.

We have only encountered one sailing shortly after 911 when rates were so cheap and offered to locals as well as others, that you couldn't afford not to cruise! Yes, there were young people who weren't expreienced cruisers, but they weren't a major problem, just a different culture. Our most recent Princess cruise was a full sailing and there was no notice of any one ethnic group on board.

I too hope RCI continues to birth a ship for the Southern Caribbean itineary in PR.

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Malaga sounds like a great base to do winter cruises to the Canary Islands and it's about time the big boys started to consider winter sun cruises for Europeans. The Caribbean offers lots of choice for N American cruisers to get some winter sunshine but Europe has very limited choice.
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Malaga sounds like a great base to do winter cruises to the Canary Islands and it's about time the big boys started to consider winter sun cruises for Europeans. The Caribbean offers lots of choice for N American cruisers to get some winter sunshine but Europe has very limited choice.
I can see where you are coming from. It would be nice for Europeans to have ships sailing in the winter, but..we will still miss a ship the size of Adventure of The Seas sailing out of San Juan.
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Well I for one am not surprised at all!

I think many folks are not too thrilled with the amount of time and money it takes to fly down to San Juan to catch the ship in Puerto Rico. Flying into Miami and Ft Lauderdale is far less time consuming and less expensive than flying into San Juan...plus for most folks there are is a larger selection of non-stops. Then let us not forget how convenient it is to take a cab to the ships from the Miami and Ft Lauderdale airports.

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Not sure where you're flying from, but from our home in the northeast, the flight to San Juan is not much more time consuming that a flight to Miami. And, at least in the past, cruises from San Juan tended to run about $100-$150 less than cruises from Miami, balancing out the cost difference.

A cab from the airport in San Juan is easy and inexpensive. Again, from the northeast, it's typically cheaper and easier to find a non-stop into Fort Lauderdale than Miami, meaning a cruise out of Port of Miami requires an hour long transfer from Fort Lauderdale Airport.

Out of Florida, if you can't afford more than a seven day cruise, you primarily have the choice of eastern or western Caribbean. While I particularly enjoyed the cruise that included Belize and Roatan, I have to admit that I'm getting a little tired of multiple visits to Grand Cayman and Cozumel. The eastern itinerary from Florida generally includes no more than three ports, because the islands are really more southern than eastern.

The southern ports are all docking, rather than tendering, maximizing port time. I like that. After two cruises (my third is 2010) in the south, I have many southern islands left unexplored. In 2010, I'll visit St. Croix and St. Kitts for the first time. In 2011, I'm hoping to visit some more new ports - maybe Grenada, Totola, Martinique...there are plenty I've yet to visit.

Who knows what the future may bring, but I fully expect to cruise the next two years in the south, assuming there's still capacity out of San Juan. The weather during the winter months is ideal (rarely rains for more than 10 minutes - not true in the western islands) and I just prefer the islands!

I hope RCI replaces Adventure with a comparable ship. If not, I may be having to - heaven forbid - try out some new lines!
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I was going to reply to all of these threads but I am pretty new to this, I had to find my last posting took a little while . I was wondering about San Juan location, we usually get to are port a day early and just relax and get ready for are cruise. What hotel do you recommend? Itís going to be me my wife and my two sonsís, so pending about the price all we are looking for is something clean and ready.

As for booking a cruise has anyone every booked a cruise with RCCL when they just opened there books? Reason for the question we want a certain cabin. Does RCCL open there book's on the first of the month? Example: if I am looking at 2011 February would I be correct in saying that august 1st of this summer? Any thoughts?
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Airfare to San Juan may be more expensive than to Miami - but it's still cheaper than airfare to Europe!
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airfare to san juan may be more expensive than to miami - but it's still cheaper than airfare to europe!
amen to that! Quicker too - and no jet lag!!
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I was going to reply to all of these threads but I am pretty new to this, I had to find my last posting took a little while . I was wondering about San Juan location, we usually get to are port a day early and just relax and get ready for are cruise. What hotel do you recommend? Itís going to be me my wife and my two sonsís, so pending about the price all we are looking for is something clean and ready.

As for booking a cruise has anyone every booked a cruise with RCCL when they just opened there books? Reason for the question we want a certain cabin. Does RCCL open there book's on the first of the month? Example: if I am looking at 2011 February would I be correct in saying that august 1st of this summer? Any thoughts?
I found out about this website from another cruise critic member. Go to biddingfortravel.yuku.com If you go to the facs about bidding for a hotel, you can find out everything you need to know about using Priceline's "name your own price" feature. This has saved a lot of money on my trips. Last year, I paid $112 for the Caribe Hilton in San Juan and this year I paid $90 for the Intercontinental. Also paid $43 for the Dulles airport Sheraton. All of these hotels website prices were over $200. You choose the category (star level) and area of the hotel, but you can't choose a specific hotel. I chose "resort hotel--San Juan" There are cheaper categories, too.
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Forgot to mention in my post that you can look up hotel reviews on a site called Trip Advisor. It's a lot better to have more than one person's opinion, I've found.
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Thank you for that tip. I'll check that out.
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