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Host Hattie April 16th, 2018 08:04 AM

A poll on the dress code changes
 
We've seen the speculation and the outrage but how have the dress code changes affected your thoughts about sailing on Cunard ?

(I've made the poll anonymous)

Cruise Liner Fan April 16th, 2018 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Host Hattie (Post 55850059)
We've seen the speculation and the outrage but how have the dress code changes affected your thoughts about sailing on Cunard ?

(I've made the poll anonymous)

Did Cunard change the dress code? I hope not. Regards,Jerry

Host Hattie April 16th, 2018 09:33 AM

Yes, here is the new code.

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During the day, feel free to relax and dress as you please in all areas of the ship. Then as the sun goes down, the style goes up. Every night on board, we ask that you wear smart attire in most of our bars, restaurants and entertainment venues. On our much-anticipated Gala evenings, we invite you to dress to impress and celebrate with us. There are two or three of these special Gala evenings for every seven days of your voyage.
Of course, if you prefer to spend your evenings in more relaxed attire, a selection of casual dining and entertainment venues is always available for your enjoyment.
A full break down of dress codes, the number of Gala nights and any themed balls can be viewed via the following question with the suggested attire for each type of evening: What will the dress code be whilst I am on board?

During the day

Casual shirts, shorts, trousers and beachwear are ideal. The main restaurants require a casual wear dress code for breakfast and lunch, however you may wear shorts in either the Kings Court (Queen Mary 2) or Lido Restaurant (Queen Victoria & Queen Elizabeth).

Evenings

Evenings will be split into 2 different dress codes. You will be notified of the evening's dress code in your Daily Programme. As a guide, these will be:

Gala:
On Gala nights it’s dinner jacket, tuxedo, or dark suit for the men with a regular tie or bow tie. Evening or cocktail dress, smart trouser suit, or formal separates for the ladies please.
Smart Attire:
Gentlemen, every night we request you wear smart trousers with a shirt and jacket; tie is optional. Ladies, blouses and skirts or stylish trousers and dresses are welcome.

For those who want some further help and guidance, or wish to view some examples of evening and day wear, please visit our What To Pack page on our website.

Please note that after 6:00pm, shorts and blue or worn denim (for men and women); sandals and sleeveless tops (for men) are not considered appropriate within the ship.
Of course, if you prefer to spend your evenings in more relaxed attire, a selection of casual dining and entertainment venues is always available for your enjoyment. Feel free to dress casually as you visit any of the following venues: Kings Court, Lido Buffet, Golden Lion, Casino, Carinthia Lounge, Winter Garden, Garden Lounge, Yacht Club, and G32. Non-ripped, jeans are appropriate, but please refrain from wearing shorts, sports attire, swim wear or sleeveless t-shirts outside of the gym, spa and deck spaces.

Children

Children under 18 do not have a dress code but should adhere to the daily dress code where possible.

National/Religious dress

National and Religious dress including headdress' are allowed on board. Depending on the amount of the face covered by the headdress, guests may be asked to unveil for a security photo at check in and passing through security check points ashore and on board during the voyage.
Some items of national dress such as ceremonial blades or swords are not permitted and guests should check our list of prohibited items under the question What am I not allowed to take on board?

cruiseluvva April 16th, 2018 09:38 AM

Well, so far, the results are interesting. Where are all those that said they would not sail again due to these changes?

PORT ROYAL April 16th, 2018 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cruiseluvva (Post 55850637)
Well, so far, the results are interesting. Where are all those that said they would not sail again due to these changes?

Asleep or at work, as Americans
We upgraded.

Host Hattie April 16th, 2018 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cruiseluvva (Post 55850637)
Well, so far, the results are interesting. Where are all those that said they would not sail again due to these changes?

To be fair, the poll has not been up long, we know of at least 2 who would choose the first option based on their posts on the previous discussion.

But I agree, interesting so far.

PORT ROYAL April 16th, 2018 09:54 AM

Still trying to obtain a written confirmation from Cunard that all dress codes and "dress suggestions" will be fully enforced in the Theatre and all areas outside those now dumbed down.
It has been some time. Obviously, writing is proving difficult to some in Cunard.
Last reply gave a Cunard time band of 28 days. Diarised.

Cruise Liner Fan April 16th, 2018 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Host Hattie (Post 55850603)
Yes, here is the new code.

As my way to protest this dress change on the first and last night out aboard the QM2 I will dress with a sport jacket, shirt, neck tie and smart trousers which I assume is dress pants not jeans. For the nights in between the first and last nights aboard the QM2 I will dress with a dark suit with a white shirt and a neck tie and I really don't care what the casually dressed people aboard ship think. What is next? Would it be that the passengers then can walk into the ship's dinning room only wearing their underwear? (sarcasm) And then after that it will be changed to the Adam & Eve night for the passengers who want to bare it all (again sarcasm) Believe me that I don't want to see any passengers in their birthday suit. LOL Regards,Jerry

bluemarble April 16th, 2018 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cruise Liner Fan (Post 55850558)
Did Cunard change the dress code? I hope not. Regards,Jerry

See this thread for further information and a lengthy discussion about the dress code if you haven't seen it already.

New Dress Code Designations?

3rdGenCunarder April 16th, 2018 10:17 AM

I took option 3. I'm not ready to say never again, but if staff won't enforce the dress code in the formal areas, I may be done cruising with Cunard and will only do TAs. I can cruise on other lines for a lot less. Now that HAL has Lincoln Center on some of their ships, their entertainment is better than it was. I think their MDR food is a little better than we've experience on QM2 in Britannia Restaurant. Cunard does offer more to do during the day, but I'll have to think about whether the price difference is worth it.

I used to think of HAL as "Cunard Lite." Then they dumbed down the dress code and decreased the entertainment and the difference was greater. But the fact that a former HAL exec is in charge of Cunard, and HAL-lingo like "gala night" and "dress to impress" is showing up, I fear that Cunard may be on its way to "Cunard Lite."

buchhalm April 16th, 2018 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cruiseluvva (Post 55850637)
Well, so far, the results are interesting. Where are all those that said they would not sail again due to these changes?

Boycotting even this forum

Alanxx April 16th, 2018 12:01 PM

According to the code I cannot wear blue denim anywhere in the ship after 6pm but I can wear non ripped jeans in the golden lion,the buffet and certain lounges.......can anyone make sense of that ??

bluemarble April 16th, 2018 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alanxx (Post 55851859)
According to the code I cannot wear blue denim anywhere in the ship after 6pm but I can wear non ripped jeans in the golden lion,the buffet and certain lounges.......can anyone make sense of that ??

Yes, that's an obvious contradiction and no I can't explain it other than to say the wording that states "Please note that after 6:00pm, shorts and blue or worn denim (for men and women); sandals and sleeveless tops (for men) are not considered appropriate within the ship." was part of the previous dress code. My view is that Cunard simply altered parts of the previous dress code statement to revise the definitions for "Informal" and "Formal" into "Smart Attire" and "Gala Evenings" while leaving other parts intact that should have been removed or revised.

Another problem in my view is that Cunard has retained this statement from the old dress code as well.

"The main restaurants require a casual wear dress code for breakfast and lunch, however you may wear shorts in either the Kings Court (Queen Mary 2) or Lido Restaurant (Queen Victoria & Queen Elizabeth)."

That statement would seem to contradict the statement "During the day, feel free to relax and dress as you please in all areas of the ship." by implying that shorts are not allowed in the main dining rooms for breakfast and lunch, but as has been discussed, shorts are actually allowed for breakfast and lunch even under the previous dress code.

So, yes in my view Cunard really ought to take another look at their dress code statement and clear up some of these areas that are cause for some confusion.

Happyholidayer April 16th, 2018 12:49 PM

The changes don't bother me enough to change cruise lines, I'll continue to sail.

This one had my vote. I only sailed last November and will again this December.

I found it all great value for money.

Suits me just fine.

axelskater April 16th, 2018 01:08 PM

I answered I will never sail again, though I did not say that on the other thread. I was ready to give it a chance until my husband showed me the new pics of what Cunard considers "Smart" and "Gala". No.

I don't sail Cunard to go on a "cruise" and I don't sail the QM2 as transport. I sail them to step back in time. If that is gone, I am gone. I just want to be on the ship. If I happen to like the itinerary, all the better. The ambience and dress code were a huge part of the ship. Anyway I guess Cunard does not mind losing us. My Grills cabin to Alaska next year was a small fortune but I was completely okay with the hard work it takes to afford Cunard. Since we are still fairly young, we both still work, and heck most of the reason I work is just to go on vacation. Since my voyage is next summer I don't have to do anything yet, but if this is the future, Alaska is being cancelled, and I will just use my OBC and my future cruise which I was using for that voyage, to take a short hop on July 4th instead, and thereafter end my dalliance with Cunard. It just won't be worth it to me anymore. It's too bad, since we probably would have had another 3 decades of sailing. When I visited the original Queen Mary a few years back, the saddest thing for me was the loss of the ambience which must have made her spectacular in her day.

Ray66 April 16th, 2018 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by axelskater (Post 55852402)
I answered I will never sail again, though I did not say that on the other thread. I was ready to give it a chance until my husband showed me the new pics of what Cunard considers "Smart" and "Gala". No.

I don't sail Cunard to go on a "cruise" and I don't sail the QM2 as transport. I sail them to step back in time. If that is gone, I am gone. I just want to be on the ship. If I happen to like the itinerary, all the better. The ambience and dress code were a huge part of the ship. Anyway I guess Cunard does not mind losing us. My Grills cabin to Alaska next year was a small fortune but I was completely okay with the hard work it takes to afford Cunard. Since we are still fairly young, we both still work, and heck most of the reason I work is just to go on vacation. Since my voyage is next summer I don't have to do anything yet, but if this is the future, Alaska is being cancelled, and I will just use my OBC and my future cruise which I was using for that voyage, to take a short hop on July 4th instead, and thereafter end my dalliance with Cunard. It just won't be worth it to me anymore. It's too bad, since we probably would have had another 3 decades of sailing. When I visited the original Queen Mary a few years back, the saddest thing for me was the loss of the ambience which must have made her spectacular in her day.

If the short cruise is only for 5 days, you need to be aware that OBC given through a Future Cruise Deposit can only be used on cruises of 6 days or more.

Aspidestra99 April 16th, 2018 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by buchhalm (Post 55851659)
Boycotting even this forum

I can't see a link to the poll? Not having seen a poll on cruisecritic I'm not sure what to look for. I access the site from the phone app. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Sent from my SM-G950F using Forums mobile app

Host Hattie April 16th, 2018 02:11 PM

You will need to view the thread via your web browser rather than the app.

bluemarble April 16th, 2018 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray66 (Post 55852875)
If the short cruise is only for 5 days, you need to be aware that OBC given through a Future Cruise Deposit can only be used on cruises of 6 days or more.

I think axelskater will be ok with her contingency plans since it sounds like she is talking about 2019. The QM2 "Independence Day Celebration" cruise next year has been extended to seven days (June 30-July 7, 2019).

ponstad April 16th, 2018 02:35 PM

As someone who is eagerly awaiting our first cruise on the QM2 this fall, it was difficult for me to find a poll choice that fit. I am happily anticipating dressing up. We are looking forward to the itinerary, ballroom dancing, bridge and interesting conversations with those we may meet on the cruise. It will be fun to dress more formally than we used to, but my future cruising decisions will not be based on attire.


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