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  1. I feel like you should re-read what I wrote, and probably some of the other comments to understand why I wrote tyranny in quotes. I've also used the word tyranny exactly once (excluding this comment) and it was in response to the person that actually claimed an election, at the most granular level of US government, is "tyranny of the majority".
  2. The Senate is an example of why states need to have individual rights - which they do - because that is an example where "tyranny of the majority" can actually exist. That is a majority at a national level over-ruling a majority at a state level. Individual residents directly voting on a referendum for their own town is at the most granular level available (and probably the most pure form of democracy there is). The only additional level would be to somehow limit the vote to residents who benefit from (or are harmed by) cruise traffic. I see is as wildly unfair to say "you get a vo
  3. Lot of that going round lately. So who, in place of the majority, should "rule"?
  4. Do you have a source for your statistics? I could not the 92% of revenue and hotel occupancy is closer to mid 80s according to this (see page 6): https://www.keywestchamber.org/wp-content/themes/divi-child/pdf/demographics_and_economy_update_2020.pdf If the 92% stat is accurate, and we'll need to source to confirm that - that means 27% of visitors are only contributing 8% to revenue. If this is actually true, then it makes all the sense in the world to limit cruisers.
  5. I have been to Key west many times and I have been to destinations that aren't a cruise destination many times. To suggest that there non cruise destinations, by overwhelming majority are busy successful and more attractive is simply not true. Some are in fact busy and successful and more attractive, some are only 2 of 3, some are none of 3. It also ignores the fact that such destinations have developed their supply based on the demand of available tourists - none of which arrive by ship. I don't know the specifics of what the net daily passenger change may be when large ships no longer
  6. And replace them with what? I'm not sure the demand is there for 50 high end boutiques instead. It's hard to imagine that most of them will be anything but a closed up shop.
  7. Assuming this makes through all legal hurdles, will be interesting to see the effect on Duval street (and all adjacent shopping areas). The demand necessary to support 50 Tshirt shops all selling the same shirts is gonna dry up.
  8. It's entirely relevant. It shows that anyone can "sign the document" however they choose, and that's not the important part. The important part is the declaration is just that - a declaration. It is a series of assertions with no supporting documentation. If I am to be compelled to believe that masks and social distancing aren't necessary, then someone needs to come up with data supporting it because every practically country in the world is publishing daily data that refutes it. Countries and areas of countries that don't follow any guidelines have cases that go up. When they start foll
  9. That is not what confirmation bias means. I am under no obligation to verify the signatories of the declaration - I'm not the one attempting to claim its legitimacy. The fact that it includes such notable experts as: Mr Banana Rama Dr Johnny Fartpants Dr Person Fakename Professor Notaf Uckingclue Prof Cominic Dummings Tells me all I need to know about the validity of any name on the list. Your final question warrants no response. If you'd like to present data, feel free to do so. Otherwise it's a dramatic statement based on nothing.
  10. Except it isn't "The declaration was authored by Sunetra Gupta of the University of Oxford, Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford University, and Martin Kulldorff of Harvard University. It was sponsored by the American Institute for Economic Research, a libertarian think tank that is part of a Koch-funded network of organizations associated with climate change denial. " Dr Gupta is an epidemiologist, the other 2 are not. Their position is contrary to who knows how many other experts around the world. What, besides your confirmation bias, makes the opinion of these 3 valid an the res
  11. This was maybe rhetorical, but if not, the reason is simple - confirmation bias. People want to believe they don't have to do anything and the pandemic will just go away. They ignore giant piles of evidence for the effectiveness mask use and social distancing and temporary lockdowns because it doesn't agree with their feeling that they shouldn't have to do anything to help minimize the outbreak. In the US this is of course compounded by the fact that the use of masks has been successfully politicized and wearing one is somehow unpatriotic. They hear or read about Sweden and "herd immunity"
  12. Sweden doesn't even claim Sweden was successful Some stats I compiled for some other post somewhere that was also trying to sell the falsehood that "Sweden did well" Sweden’s cases have been going up since then end of August. Sweden has twice the population of Norway. Sweden has 7 times the total cases of Norway Sweden has 20 times the number of deaths of Norway Sweden has 250 covid deaths since the end of June Norway had 25 for the same time period Any argument that Sweden was successful is effect
  13. Taxi to the airport - yes Drive the 7 miles bridge - yes there's technically time, but it's about an hour each way in the best of conditions - which are uncommon. Being the only road in and out of the Keys, one accident anywhere can shut the whole thing down for a while. You have to go all the way back to yesterday, 7/13, for the last traffic problem which was an accident on the 7 mile bridge, fortunately it was only alternating traffic (I assume they closed down 1 lane) - you have to go back to last Tuesday for a full road closure due to an acident. Even without an accident, tra
  14. Here's the official map with stops and some points of interest (along with a downloadable PDF) https://www.cityofkeywest-fl.gov/egov/apps/document/center.egov?view=item;id=18310
  15. This is just an assumption, but I don't think the United States cares what you bring back on the ship. That is up to the cruiseline to decide
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