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Barrycat

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  1. There goes Wripro as usual with a smart a.... comment, never adding anything to the discussion, but always effectively lowering the quality of the discourse. My guess a jeans at dinner defender there. I must admit that I am amazed at the number of people on this thread who are in effect voting that’s it’s ok to selectively violate the Windstar policies that are not important to them. More alarmingly they fail to realize that this attitude may some day impact a policy that they favor. Slippery slope.
  2. Sorry, not my style Wripro, obviously yours. I’d rather try to get it right, not give up. if you sign on to a Windstar Cruise, or any other for that matter, you are implicitly agreeing to follow the cruise lines policies. I guess you feel it’s ok to pick and choose what policies don’t apply to you.. That’s the attitude that resulted in jeans and tee shirts in Amphora. Im amazed that some don’t see the danger of slipping standards, but my guess is they are the ones causing the slippage.
  3. It’s a guideline for those that don’t care about maintaining some pretty reasonable standards, many of which keep us coming back to Windstar. For those that DO CARE, consider it a rule
  4. DRIP, DRIP, DRIP 💧 I can hear the erosion of standards all of the way from here. It’s not really a question of if someone is bothered by violation of the published standards, the crucial question is what standards are allowed to be violated and where does it stop. Obviously some people don’t care, I do.
  5. I’m glad that I brought up this subject originally and I found interesting the very different points of view by the many respondents. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, the most recent posts have spent more time questioning each other’s opinion rather than focusing on the original subject of my post. I have not been blameless in this situation by my snarky replies to others. As Rodney Kingg said “cant we all just get along”? In that spirit I suggest that future posts be limited more to comments on the subject and less on each other’s opinions.
  6. To those that are having a problem with my use of the word PROBLEM in describing the erosion of dress code standards in Amphora, let me suggest CONCERN as a more appropriate description. However, whichever term is used, they are both relative to a persons standards. If you have what I would consider high standards, I think you might be CONCERNED that Windstar has chosen not to enforce minimum published standards for appropriate dress in Amphora at dinner. As I said earlier, a Windstar Cruise is a total experience made up of many parts. Once you let any of those experiential elements slip it indicates a casual attitude toward maintaining the standards that make us keep coming back. I don’t want to see that trend start a Windstar. To those who think that this subject is silly, there are plenty of cruise lines where your jeans, flip flops and tee shirts will be welcome at the prime dining room, except of course for that one night you drag out your rented tux. Why not give them the pleasure of your business.
  7. My understanding is that a more relaxed dress code on the first night has been the policy for the reason mentioned. It’s the other nights that are a problem
  8. WHAT A RESPONSE Of all of the posts I started on CC this has gotten the most enthusiastic response. An un scientific tally indicated a slight, but slight, leaning towards agreeing with my original point to enforce the published dress policy. Any cruise in my mind is a package. The itinerary, the condition of the ship, the quality of the food,the level of staff services and others determine the total quality of this package.The Windstar experience is somewhere near but not at the upper end of this scale. There are some cruise lines higher on the cost and luxury scale and many below that scale. To those that suggest that maintaining a dress code in Amphora is unimportant, I disagree. A reasonable dress code is part of that “package” and like all other factors impact the total experience. It may not be important to the Carnival cruiser that suggested we “get a life”, but some part of that package that is immaterial to me may be important to him/her. A standard, whatever it is, must be maintained or changed. Otherwise the drip, drip of decreasing the quality of the total experience is inevitable.
  9. We just returned from a wonderful 23 day cruise aboard the Legend from Hong Kong to Singapore. There were the same old minor complains that are to be expected on a ship of the Legends age but they in no way affect he overall positive experience. We did however see an obvious and negative change In Windstar’s definition of “casual elegance” as the clothing standard in Amphora fir dinner. Jeans, tee shirts, and flip flops are specifically outlined in all Windstar literature as unacceptable dinner attire. Unfortunately, all were allowed without comment on the Legend. After twelve Windstar Cruises, this is the first time we noticed more than an occasional dress code violation, and it became more obvious as the trip progressed. I expressed my concern to both the hotel manager and captain and they kind of blew it off as a wider cruise industry problem and did not express any plans to enforce the code. This is a cop out and should be of concern to both the company and customers. Once you stop standing by the standards that make Windstar Windstar it diminishes the experience that makes us want to return. if future cruisers notice this trend on their ship and you share my concern, speak up. This is the only way to reverse this trend
  10. IN AN ATTEMPT TO DEVELOP SOME OPTIONS TO THE VIETNAM AND BANGKOK EXCURSIONS OFFERED ON THESE SAILINGS BY WINDSTAR, WE CONTACTED A HIGHLY RECOMMENDED VIETNAM BASED TOUR COMPANY WHICH HAS BEEN USED SUCCESSFULLY BY PAST WINDSTAR CRUISERS. THE RESULT IS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF POSSIBLE EXCURSIONS IN HALONG BAY, HANOI, HOI AN, HUE, MEKONG DELTA, HCM CITY AND BANGKOK. THESE EXCURSIONS OFFER, IN SOME CASES ITINERARIES NOT PRESENTED BY WINDSTAR, OR SIMILAR ITINERARIES AT A LOWER COST WITH SMALLER GROUPS. IM JUST A FELLOW PASSENGER ON OUR THIRTEENTH WINDSTAR CRUISE AND I AM WILLING TO SHARE WHAT I HAVE FOUND. SO FAR WE HAVE FOUR COUPLES SIGNING UP FOR VARIOUS COMBINATIONS OF THE OFFERINGS FROM THIS COMPANY. WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO FILL A BUS, QUITE THE CONTRARY, BUT WOULD BE HAPPY IF A FEW FELLOW PASENGERS WOULD LIKE TO JOIN US ON ONE OR MORE OF THESE TOURS. IF YOU WANT FURTHER INFORMATION PLEASE BE AS SPECIFIC AS POSSIBLE AND EMAIL ME AT DWROBINSO3@aol.com. BARRYCAT
  11. Scott This is what Windstar has been saying for awhile and what Dave and Pat did. I’m sure it is correct since Windstar has been to Vietnam a couple of times in the past. Before this specific explanation came out from Windstar added to some misinformation that they gave us regarding visas on a previous cruise,I did the suspenders and belt thing and got the $135 multiple entry visa from the consulate. Probably not necessary but It’s done and I’m sleeping well.
  12. Scott Send me your email at dwrobinso3@aol.com and I will send you some information on what me and Dave of Dave and Pat have come up with so far regarding Vietnam excursions. Barrycat
  13. i have contacted a very highly recommended tour company in Vietnam to compare what they offer as an option to the excursions offered by Windstar. The company came initially recommended on Cruise Critic by a previous Windstar Vietnam visitor. I then checked reviews of the company on Trip Advisor, they were almost universally very positive. I sent our Vietnam itinerary to the suggested contact and he responded with two or more options at each stop. Generally speaking the quoted prices, which depend on the number of participants, are somewhat lower than Windstar’s. In addition the excursion details are sometimes similar to Windstar’s in some cases, Hanoi, and quite different, an eight hour Halong Bay Cruise vs four hours on Windstar, in other cases. At this point I’m primarily interested in Halong Bay and a couple of options at DaNang, but I want to explore further with the company. My purpose in this post is to give a heads up to any other cruisers that might want to CONSIDER non Windstar excursions as we always do. I’ve compared both Windstar and non Windstar offerings for this cruise and we wil do a mix. I can’t post the name of the tour company on Cruise Critic but if you want to send me an email dwrobinso3@aol.com I’ll send you the company contact and you can follow up with them. If I get enough interest we may be able to put together a group which reduces individual costs. Barrycat Twelve time Windstar cruiser
  14. Amazing!!!! What priorities guide people to worry about playing a Facebook game, laying in bed next to their partner late at night, rather than going up on deck, looking at the stars as enjoying the experience. I think it’s time for some to reassess priorities. Glad that’s not me.
  15. Unfortunately I can beat J&MSails story. We were on a great 34 day cruise on the Legend from Athens to Singapore. Visas were required for Egypt, Jordan, India, Sri Lanka. The information from Windstar changed with every new email and ended up never being right. Almost every cruiser on board was upset with the confusion and to make matters worse, the on board crew knew nothing of the problem before we informed them, inexcusable. We ended up taking the safe approach and spent over $1200 on visas and services, and as it turned out some were not required. My guess is we will end up buying the more expensive multiple entry visas since we cannot trust the Windstar “guidance”. Steve, we are on the January 27 cruise as well, staying on to Singapore
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