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BarbarianPaul

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    Celebrity, Crystal, Regent
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    Mediterranean

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  1. Even if immunity isn’t permanent, its not the end of the world if it becomes a once a year flu shot kind of thing. In terms of long term effects/dangers, I think there’s going to be at least some form of leap of faith involved, unless you want to wait years. And of course that strategy involves risk as well.
  2. Good point! So, back to this Bermuda thing. If the port wasn’t big enough, but the capacity stayed reduced, they could always ferry passengers out for embarkation. Supplies as well if necessary.
  3. I think if the cruise lines tried any harebrained scheme to somehow bypass CDC restrictions, like trying to sail out of Bermuda (which we all know will never happen anyway), they’d find themselves in a heap o’ trouble. The CDC would just reaffirm their recommendation that cruising was unsafe, that US citizens would be putting themselves at risk by cruising. Not all of us would listen, but I would bet a good enough percentage would, enough to make the scheme unprofitable. There was just a study released that you are twice as likely to contract what we don’t want to contract by dinin
  4. I think you’re right. The cruise lines are now practically begging the CDC to let them open up, even though the protocols are still basically untested. And I think the CDC has not forgotten how many lines continued to sail at the start of the outbreak. Granted, it’s debatable whether or not they should have stopped earlier, but there are arguments that fall both ways. And the fact that the cruise lines have been skirting US labor laws for years and years probably doesn’t help them either. The other issue is that I fear when cruising ultimately resumes the protocols will initially b
  5. With all due respect, you don’t appear to be a professional virologist. Of course, neither am I, but having read more than that Washington Post article I am aware of additional information regarding these matters. 1) The virus doesn’t appear to be mutating rapidly. 2) No one knows what the effectiveness percentages of the vaccines in development will be. But the general thinking is that if they surpass 50%, it could very well be enough to promote herd immunity. 3) True, a lot of folks forego the flu shot...at their own risk. Say what you will, it’s effective in controlling outbreaks. My i
  6. Great history! A couple was thrown off our New Zealand/Australia cruise last fall for breaking quarantine when diagnosed with Norovirus, but, alas, they left behind a massive outbreak and a ship in code red for the next 12 days. I think it will be quite a while before the CDC allows any cruising. They’d get blamed for subsequent outbreaks, which are bound to happen, there’d be another shutdown, and the industry would be in an even worse position than it is now.
  7. The problem is that one repercussion would be to throw said passenger off the ship. But I doubt if any cruise line would do that after one instance. So it would probably have to be a multiple offender who has already had time to possibly spread anything he or she already has throughout all the public areas.
  8. Totally agreed. But does anyone think that they won’t see a single person walking down a corridor not wearing a mask? That every single passenger will adhere, without fail, 100% of the time, 24 hours a day, to very strict but absolutely necessary protocols?
  9. It’s hard to gauge the effectiveness of these protocols when we read about them not working. That said, the German cruises to nowhere have not yet had any issues, so that’s a good sign. One other thing worries me, though. There are quite a few folks out there not willing to put on a mask, and we all know that’s a major contributor to the current resurgence. So how do we make sure the protocols, still unproven, are respected and followed? All it takes is one bad apple, and we’ve all seen arrogant, inappropriate behavior from passengers who feel entitled. We faced a norovirus outbreak
  10. There have now been four ships with COVID cases. https://www.travelagewest.com/Travel/Cruise/Make-That-Four-Steps-Back-for-Cruising-Now?utm_source=eNewsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=eltrBreakingNews&oly_enc_id=8231D5712201H5C Innacurate, and misguidedly dismissive, to say that the protocols were not strict enough or not enforced. Apparently on one of the ships all passengers tested negative, but upon retesting one of them did indeed test positive. That’s troublesome. Perhaps there’s another lesson here: the protocols aren’t yet ready for prime time.
  11. Personally, I absolutely love cruising, but I think we’re kidding ourselves if we think social distancing can be an effective deterrent, even with reduced capacity, on a cruise ship. All it takes is one cough or sneeze, from one passenger, maybe in a dining room, and the entire ship is in jeopardy. At this point, why would anyone willingly head into such a confined environment? I do believe there will be an effective vaccine, and sooner than we think. Heaven knows I’m now sitting on a fortune of FCCs, and I look forward to using them. But certainly not now, or any time soon. I thin
  12. Rather than having their ships sit idle for the next year, I’m wondering if cruise lines will move their ships overseas and sail out of international ports only, away from the CDC’s supervision. That said, not sure that strategy would be beneficial in the long run if it engendered the CDC’s ire.
  13. My wife and I were aboard for 33 days, and never heard it once! I thought it was just a prop. And for the most part we like it better than the newer ships. But the cabins could still use a refresh, and I wonder, as many have remarked, if it’s days are numbered.
  14. I don’t like the organ either, but if they ever updated the cabins and showed the ship a little love, I’d totally cruise on it again. I love the smaller size and cozy vibe.
  15. Re the Zandaam’s organ, I understand those who think it’s quirky and charming in its own way. But I don’t agree. I think it’s creepy and funereal, and looks like some left over prop from a roadshow of The Phantom Of The Opera. And it’s not some great example of old world craftsmanship either, since it’s made of cheap plaster! It also communicates a message that the cruise line is old, stodgy, and completely out of step with the times. My wife and I, though, have really fond memories of the ship, and quite enjoyed our 33 days on it a few years ago, on both an Antarctic and Brazil cru
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