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  1. Just for confusion -- the Queen Anne architectural style came forward towards the end of Queen Victoria's era, and long after Queen Anne the monarch had passed from this mortal coil. Queen Anne was closer in time to Shakespeare's era than Queen Victoria's reign.
  2. if the Argentine officials used sampling, they don't necessarily need to check everyone's temperature. If the protocol was to check temps on X passengers and Y crew and based on the results either decide to sample more or not continue to sample, that would make sense. (For example, if you measured temps on 200 passengers and all with within limits...would it really be essential to continue taking temps on the rest?) Or, it could have been that they were out-of-time or ready for a coffee break. We might not ever know...but I can hypothesize why it might be reasonable not to check everyone.
  3. The "leave our waters now" courtesy? https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/1892590/australia-tells-virus-stricken-cruise-ships-to-go-home 😞
  4. Hopefully this gives the remaining ships a blueprint for their returns.
  5. That is a very detailed plan in terms of getting folks out of Florida. It is not nearly so clear as to what happens to folks once they arrive at the airport where the charter flights land. I hope the passengers continue to wear the masks they are being provided.
  6. Say someone is exposed and catches it March 1 or 2nd. (I think that was about the date passengers or crew last interacted in person with anyone on shore.) With about a quarter of the people who are infected not having symptoms they may notice, it is reasonably possible that it was transmitted to someone else who didn't show symptoms or who didn't notice mild symptoms or who didn't report mild symptoms. Then someone gets infected who does manifest significant symptoms. Time in quarantine is a good but not perfect measure. There are no perfect measures.
  7. Someone who was infected but without symptoms boarded. (About 25% or more of folks who are positive for the virus do not have symptoms.) That person, while not showing symptoms, infects someone else who does show symptoms.
  8. HAL's rep said yesterday that "a couple" people on Rotterdam had flu-type symptoms. (The link is back a bunch of pages.)
  9. That article does not say. Perhaps there is more in the San Diego Union? I hope your friends continue to be fine.
  10. HAL acknowledging that "a couple" of folks on Rotterdam have flu-type symptoms is the reason I'd like to see a plan where all passengers are quarantined. I'd also like to see those that need hospitalization get it promptly even if they have to be medevac'd over to Orlando or some other less hard hit area. In the long run, some things need to change with the cruise industry. That time is not now.
  11. As of Tuesday, according to Carnival’s chief maritime officer William Burke, there were “a couple” passengers on Rotterdam with flu-like symptoms. Including crew, there are 1,048 people on Zaandam and 1,442 on Rotterdam. https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2020/03/31/zaandam-cruise-ship-still-has-no-guaranteed-port-its-sick-passengers-florida-officials-balk/?itid=sf_travel
  12. "News of the three crew members testing positive was announced by county officials later in the day. Dr. Eric McDonald, the county's medical director of epidemiology said the passenger was medically evacuated on Monday morning with cardiac and respiratory complaints. He said the patient was transported using precautions for spreading COVID-19 and later tested positive. McDonald said as of Wednesday the patient remained hospitalized in serious condition. McDonald said three crew members who had been isolated on the ship with respiratory symptoms were tested positive for the virus. .
  13. And this, for me, is the crux of the problem: "And we need confirmation from a port that is willing to extend the same compassion and grace that Panama did, and allow us to come in so our guests can go straight to the airport for flights home." They do need a port, and very soon. However, I sincerely hope that comes with either quarantine or the requirement that people have a negative test before they're sent out into the airport to stream across the world.
  14. I'm glad your brother is doing well. Someday, I hope there is an explanation for the drapes closed requirement while they were passing through the canal. That is...weird.
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