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Stealthdog

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  1. Sadly we are rebooking everything again for next year. Coming up to final payment for a Dec cruise and we are going to punt. We dont want to pay thousands of dollars and not have the cruise experience we expect. I applaud everyone going - your efforts will definately help pave the way for normal cruising hopefully in the near future.
  2. Looking at the celebrity release (i assume it mirrors its parent), indivuduals who dont show proof of vaccine will also have to pay an extra $175ish per person to cover the mandatory testing they will have over the cruise, and there will be designated dining and casino areas only for individuals who have provided proof. I guess they will have some kind of wristband that identifies who is who?
  3. I’d be careful with any cruise out of Italy (I don’t think NCL will be resuming there this year anyways). The Italian government has been enforcing quarantines and restriction of movement for large periods of the year. Even if the cruise happens, you could be stuck in quarantine prior to sailing - they just enforced a 5 day quarantine for non-Italian EU citizens during Easter.
  4. https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/5988/?et_cid=3417200&et_rid=251694853&et_referrer=Boards%20-%20CC-US I don’t think anyone, including CDC knows what is going on at this point. CDC: “Blame Department of Transportation. They are part of the deciding body to continue to halt cruises.” DoT: “No we aren’t.” Cant make this up.....
  5. I’m with you. Already cancelled my NCL transatlantic in Dec and am booking a RCL Caribbean cruise out of Barbados instead.
  6. And? Businesses are back open, restaurants are open, hotels are open, resorts are open. Sporting events are going to begin to allow fans to attend, both outdoor and indoor. I don’t see a correlation between 75,000 new cases and 1,260 new deaths to allowing cruise lines to safely begin cruises again with mandatory proof of vaccination for passengers and crew, proof of negative tests prior to sailing, partial capacity sailings, and allowing only US citizens to board ships embarking/disembarking from US ports. As I was driving through DC yesterday, I’d estimate roughly 1/3 of the people walking around were not wearing masks. We are going to continue to have new cases and deaths, but it seems like the cruise industry is the only industry shut down.
  7. Celebrity just announced today they are commencing 7 day Caribbean cruises out of St Maarten in June, becoming the 2nd line now to start cruises this summer. Celebrity’s email says adults with vaccines but children under 18 only need negative test. It’s just a matter of time before the rest of the cruise lines follow.
  8. Crystal Cruises just announced they are going to do a Bahamas only cruise itinerary starting in July. Partner already has both vaccine shots, I’m getting my second the end of this month. Looks like I’ll be cruising this summer. https://www.luxurytraveladvisor.com/cruises/crystal-cruises-launches-bahamas-escapes-beginning-july-2021
  9. I don’t know. My uninformed thoughts are if there won’t be a season there, the ships won’t stay and will preposition to the next season location. Of course I know nothing of ship operations, maintenance, or just about anything else other than where the bars are located on it. 😎
  10. I’m booked on the Getaway in December. My worries are similar to yours - I’m just not sure NCL will have a summer-fall season in Europe and the ships won’t even be there to come back. If that happens, I’ll rebook a Dec Caribbean cruise instead.
  11. These are all really good points. I don’t have much to say on 1 and 2 - other than hope. What I am hearing from medical people here is the vaccine might be combined with flu and given annually if it doesn’t last long. I hope not, but we might be getting this yearly at the start of flu season. I do think 3 and 4 will eventually be worked out, and am more worried about the first 2. Cruise lines are losing hundreds of millions of $ and who knows how much tourism revenue some of these ports or are losing. I don’t think cruise lines will let crew vaccinations stop them from starting up again - they are losing too much monthly. They will either figure out how to get vaccines for current crew or get and train new crew who are vaccinated.
  12. Right - a little over 10% in about the first two months. There were projected ramp-ups already and two more vaccines waiting for approval. Assuming retaining 1-1.5M per day which is what we have been seeing most of the year, and that’s another 150M - 225M does given by July. I get there is a big world out there, but this is big money. I’m willing to bet the cruise lines start up Caribbean and Mexican cruises this summer if the vast majority of Americans have been vaccinated. Depending on the status is Europe, wouldn’t surprise me if ships were not repositioned there this year if Europe lags behind the US (which seems to be the case so far).
  13. Almost 40 million Americans have received at least one dose of the vaccine so far, and I think I read more than 10 million have received both. At this rate and with J&J likely to be approved soon, I don’t see why everyone that wants a vaccine won’t have it by early-mid Summer. Why do people think cruising will still be shut down into 2022?
  14. I think April is in danger but we are looking better for some types of limiting cruising in the late spring-summer. I know more people now that have received their first vaccination than I know people who got the virus, so we are definitely moving in the right direction.
  15. The best way to get this information is probably through the Chinese government - they pretty much have already stolen almost all personal and medical data about US individuals. Providing health information about US citizens (without their approval) to private businesses would definitely be a violation of national and state laws.
  16. Howl at the Moon is one of our favorites on any cruise line. We will probably spend many nights there. Definitely a selling point on such a long cruise. 😀
  17. @bluesea777 - thanks for the response. We’ll be interested in your thoughts on what to do in Bermuda, especially in December. I spent 5 days there about 10 years ago and had a great time but that was summer time. I did Epic a few years ago - if you have any questions let me know!
  18. Thank you so much for all the responses! We went with the Getaway with a Club Suite on the 14th deck. Hopefully we eventually upgrade to Haven. The Pearl is really one of our favorites, but the 6-7 days at sea pushed us to the Getaway. The variety and options on ship for both the sea days, and 17-18 night cruise, vs the comfort of a smaller ship with fewer passengers just seemed like the right decision for us for this sailing. Thanks again!
  19. Thanks for the photos - you had my partner at clam chowder! We will definitely look to upgrade - it’s just out of our range right now.
  20. We are looking to book our first post-COVID cruise and think we are set on a Dec 2021 transatlantic Rome to Miami. Two different ships leave roughly the same time, with almost identical itineraries, and about the same cost. Looking for some thoughts on Getaway vs Pearl. Thoughts on translatlantic sailings are nice too, but we’ve looked at those boards, so we are most interested in recommendations to help decide ship. We have been on the Pearl, but haven’t been on an Away class yet. We have been on a RCL megaship. This is an off peak, and longer sailing, so we wouldn’t expect large number of children on either ship. Pearl sails Dec 7-23, Getaway Dec 5-22. Only itinerary difference is Pearl has a stop in Alicante Spain, while Getaway goes to Bermuda en route to Miami. We are both early 40s and tend to stay up later, so take advantage of the later night entertainment (karaoke, casino, etc). On either we will initially book club balcony suite as a placeholder. I’m currently leaning towards Getaway because I think there will be more things to do on the ship during sea days and a better chance to bid up or rebook into a Haven suite if prices drop. But the Pearl has been one of our favorite ships. One thing about the Pearl we really liked is the Spa, particularly the Thermal Suites. The Pearl spa has been our favorite on any cruise line and ship. How is the spa and thermal suites on the Getaway? One unique aspect we see that is different is the salt room. We will probably spend a lot of evenings at the casino. How is the casino on the Getaway - imagine it will be much bigger than Pearl given about double capacity. Knowing it will be a different circumstance, but were craps and card tables typically filled on prior sailings? Last question is around food. We almost always have dinner in the specialty dining rooms and never go to the buffet (don’t see this changing post COVID). Big difference I see is Ocean Blue. What has been people’s experience there and is it worth using a dining package on? We will probably have 8 dinners already (Status, AMEX, and Free at Sea). We will use them Bistro and Modeno and do ala cart other nights. Other than Ocean Blue any major differences? And how is main dining generally on Getaway? Appreciate in advance everyone’s thoughts!
  21. I’m not sure if booking directly is the criteria. We have never booked any cruise directly, but its weird because I get most mailings from Royal Caribbean and Oceana. Most of my emails are from Princess and Carnival. Havent been on Oceana yet (though it will probably be one of my first once cruising starts again). I don’t remember the last time I got a mailing or email from NCL.
  22. I think you are missing the consideration that the large majority of cruisers from US ports are Americans. How many of them will pay thousands of dollars to fly to a Caribbean Port to then pay thousands more to go on a cruise? This model will essentially make cruising unaffordable for most of the current clientele. If the cruise lines go back to smaller ships, it might work. The premium lines already do it - but their ships have a fraction of the passengers of the larger lines. I don’t see how the lines would be profitable leaving US ports - they won’t be able to fill their ships.
  23. I’m not booking until prices become reasonable. I’ve done some mock bookings the last few weeks with Norwegian and Celebrity. Prices I am seeing are what I would expect for the premium lines. If I am going to pay premium prices, I’ll got on a premium line instead (Oceana probably). More likely, I likely I will do resort travel once travel is safer and hold off on any cruises until prices normalize again.
  24. Some people may have a lot of disposable income 😀
  25. Just got an email from TA that final payment for my December cruise is coming up in a few weeks. I’m going to cancel (no way I will make full payment at this point). 120 days out in this environment is a little absurd.
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