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plettza

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    Kiama, New South Wales
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    Carnival
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  1. Me too. Ben and David recorded their account, whilst edited, almost immediately after the incident occurred. MSC, it took them three days for a response. Again, if this was simply a privacy issue stemming from a complaint, I doubt, by B&D's account, they would've been yelled at. I just think some manager onboard saw the previous MSC video and flipped out.
  2. I don't think it's that clear cut. I read MSC policies here in Australia and they state their rules and arbitration is that of the state of New South Wales. There's no mention of Panama law prevailing on their ships in and out of Australia. It'd be interesting to know which jurisdiction's laws and regulations prevailed on Europa on this cruise.
  3. I'm not talking about just annoyances on cruise ships; as I said life is full of annoyances. So if someone leaves a fart in the elevator just as you get in, who will you point it out to? To me, that'd be an annoyance of life. I bet you you won't report that annoyance to anyone; you'd simply go about your day a little annoyed. If someone buys the last salt and vinegar packet of chips from the supermarket and that was the flavour you desired, you'd point that out too? If they don't serve Johnnie Walker scotch at a bar you've stumbled upon but serves Dewars instead, would you then point that out too or just adapt and overcome? Of course, you're free to express your opinion but that is different to pointing out a complaint.
  4. I'm not talking about just annoyances on cruise ships; as I said life is full of annoyances. So if someone leaves a fart in the elevator just as you get in, who will you point it out to? To me, that'd be an annoyance of life. I bet you you won't report that annoyance to anyone; you'd simply go about your day a little annoyed. If someone buys the last salt and vinegar packet of chips from the supermarket and that was the flavour you desired, you'd point that out too? If they don't serve Johnnie Walker scotch at a bar you've stumbled upon but serves Dewars instead, would you then point that out too or just adapt and overcome? Of course, you're free to express your opinion but that is different to pointing out a complaint.
  5. From my standpoint... I have never sailed MSC and being in Australia and am not really in a position to boycott them or sail them as they have virtually no presence here. I really have no skin in the game. I just think MSC didn't like Ben and David's video from the other year. Once they worked out who B&D are, they got butt hurt.
  6. That you stated "this time" proves this was an arbitrary call by MSC. I think most people would agree, the way MSC "did something' is the issue. You don't simply yell at your suite guests and insist they are no longer permitted to memorialise their cruise in any form.
  7. Someone, somewhere posted this link yesterday: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Country_specific_consent_requirements In Japan, you need permission to snap someone's pic from what I'm reading here so I guess if you don't have that permission, you can blur their identity out. The blurring of one's face may not be entirely out of courtesy but one of law. At the end of the day, MSC had no idea about how the video would be edited, what it would show and what it wouldn't. My feeling is they just assumed Ben and David were out to do a hit piece and over-reacted. Anyone who thinks the genesis of this ban is solely about some random person's privacy is delusional.
  8. And again, this begs the question. How would MSC know if Ben and David would or would not blur faces during post production? MSC only found them filming in Yacht Club and demanded they cease. Blurring of faces, etc. is handled in post. MSC had no way of knowing how the final video would be outputted. On this, MSC presumptiously canned Ben and David from capturing raw footage.
  9. There are a lot of things in life that annoying. Deal with it. If you want to minimise annoyances, buy or hire a private yacht and then you've all the privacy you desire.
  10. So the issue isn't being filmed as such but rather the purpose of the filming. That's a completely different proposition. People are whinging about being filmed as opposed to being on a YouTube video.
  11. And this is a point. How did/could MSC staff know that Ben and David woudn't have blurred faces in post production? They didn't know.
  12. Get a seat in parliament and table a private member's bill to change the law.
  13. I'm not appying any standards here. Every cruise ship I've been on has CCTV cameras on it. That's a fact. They don't need your consent to operate those cameras. Stay at home if you don't wanna be seen in public.
  14. You might be quite upset to learn there are cameras all 'round the ship that record 7/24 and they don't need your "consent". If you're that concerned about privacy, stay in your own dwelling where you have an absolute right to privacy.
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