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  1. 40-days to my NCL Haven cruise on the Joy. It took two-years, four (4) cancelations three (3) different ships, 125% FCC and 10% off next cruise to get here. Since I am the original OP-ED for this Haven stream, I thought it would be interesting to give some of my preparation for this upcoming cruise. I hope it helps everyone. This preparation is my therapy when cruise was simply not happening. Before I begin, I wanted everyone to know. This will be my two adult children’s first experience in the NCL Haven. We have one of the two (H2) Haven Deluxe Owners Suites with Large Balcony. As some of you know, it is huge with two bedrooms, wrap around balcony, in the Haven Courtyard and can have 6 guests. We are a party of four. My hope is my children will finally give me a complement on a well-done family vacation. My hope is actually a misguided dream. Enjoy this post. Family Journey Document: I used to write very detailed manuals for my clients prior to retirement. They were designed to give a consumers view of their products. I took that experience and do this document for my family. They don’t even think about a cruise or vacation until just a few days before. Then they want all the information instantly and each of them get both demanding and stressed out. This document is done with every single aspect of the vacation. Flights, Dates, Times, Checklists, Pre-Cruise Reservations for Specialty Restaurants/Excursions/Entertainment, Family Rules, and the list goes on. I have it printed professionally and hold it on my desk until the questions start hitting me. Some of the below items are also included in the document. Online Digital Check-In: Literally months before the cruise I do every single bit of online check-in. What I have learned is it forces you to look at thinks like passports dates and requirements. Not to mention the new rules for covid-19 testing and vaccines. As everyone will notice, NCL is not allowing you to the fully check in until 21 days prior to the cruise. At that time, additional information will be needed, and we will all have to watch a safety video. In my family, two passports needed to be renewed. Excel Spreadsheet Calendar: It is a on single page that shows the week plus we are vacationing. All key times and event are listed, color coded and explained. This calendar is not for what you do every minute of every day. This is a cruise and that would be no fun. You need to have flexibility if you want to relax on a vacation. The Calendar does have Flights, Hotels, Ground Transportation, pre/during/ post Dining Reservations, Excursions, Time In/Out of ports and the list goes on. The calendar is also in the above Journey document. Pre-Cruise Hotel: My approach is do this way ahead of time. I always book this hotel the day before the cruise and as close to the port as possible. My next cruise is our of the Port of Miami. We are staying at the Miami Marriott Biscayne Bay. I am a Marriott Titanium Elite member for life. They provide complementary upgrades, drinks, and breakfast. It allows the vacation to start the day before the cruise. Pre-Cruise Dinner: When in Miami, I make a reservation at “The Capital Grille”. I do this for many reasons. Mostly, it is one of my favorite steak places; the place has a fond memory for me; I prefer to have my major beef dinner off the ship because I am not a fan of the ships steakhouse; and many be most importantly, I get a $500.00 American Express Gift Card for the dinner. Airfare: I never use the cruise line airfare unless it is free (nothing is ever free). I want control of my air brand, times, and connections. I am a lifetime 5-Million Mile Platinum Elite member with Delta. My wife and I are upgrading to Delta Comfort right away and usually 1st Class for most domestic flights. We have American Express Platinum Cards which provides us with complementary entry to the Delta Sky Club with if you have ever been stranded at the airport is a gift. My elite status also allows for higher weight limits for our bags. Finally, I print out our boarding passes. Every member of my family has a TSA pre-check approval so it avoids the lines at security. Letter to Butler: I learned a long time ago that Butlers were Hit/Miss. Until I realized they don’t have a crystal ball. I began writing them a letter that I give them the moment I meet them onboard. I have written about this before and the public perception of what I do is 50%/50%. The main reason is I give the Butler his full tip/gratuity upfront. Many folks don’t like that however I have found this practice has gotten my family the best service since the practice was started. You do you. A couple of other hints are if you Butler does not find you day one, you find them. The letter talks about each family member. Their likes and dislikes. Special requests like extra lounge chairs on veranda, Haven Robes/Slippers for each guest in the suite, only Haven Restaurant Food for room service and the list goes on. Unless I am in the (H2) Haven Deluxe Owners Suite where the bar, mixers and waters are all complementary; I ask for all “for sale” items to be removed from the suite. Lots more but everyone has different wants and needs. Luggage Tags: I print my own which become available after your documents are released. That is usually a few weeks prior to the cruise leaving. I purchased from Amazon those clear plastic Luggage Tag Holders with the metal clips. In the past the fancy luggage tags send by the cruise brand have been ripped off . I almost did not have luggage one trip. Lesson learned. Excursions: I will be straight; I really am not a fan of any mainstream cruise companies’ excursions offering. They are usually expensive and do not live up to the hype. However, I have a huge fan of the “Beach Villa’s” on the private island, “The Cabana Beach” in Cozumel, Catamaran/Snorkel/Lunch adventures (Jolly Rancher), and the All-Inclusive Over the Water Bungalow. Some of those items get sold out and I have missed them in the past. Now I book them as soon as they are available which means they are paid in full. This then shows up on the Excel Calendar and in the Journey Document. Most of these choices got the $50.00 off perk and the cabana’s/Villa’s are buy one and it accommodates four (my family). Specialty Restaurant Reservations: Haven guest can reserve your specialty restaurant days/times 130 days prior to cruising. All other guests are at 120. Now you see why I do the Excel Calendar. I want to have specific restaurants on specific nights to coordinate with what we do for excursions that day. I also want to have a variety of foods so we mix the Specialty Restaurants with the Haven Restaurant since the Haven Restaurant menu never changes. My times coordinate with normal times for the evening shows. I like to have a pre-dinner drink; not be rushed during dinner and time for an after-dinner drink prior to the show time. Pre-Paid Gratuities: I always do the pre-paid gratuities. This way, the expense is paid prior to the cruise giving me the feeling this is an All-Inclusive vacation. The only exception is the Haven Butler which I tip in the letter given to them on day one. See Haven Butler Letter above. Family Slot Pull: A family tradition since everyone is over 21 is the Casino Slot pull. It is $25.00 per person, and we never win. However, we always enjoy the event. Every cruise we produce another approach to come in on the money. Just fun stuff that can be reserved and prepaid prior to getting on the cruise. Purchase of Cruise Travel Insurance: Up to just a few years ago, I never did Cruise Travel Insurance. Now, when you are on Medicare you are not covered outside of the United States. The forced me to buy the insurance initially. Earlier this year I went on a cruise that was fully vaccinated. My wife got break through covid-19, 8-days before we left. Unlike NCL, this cruise brand had a cancellation fee of 50%. The Insurance company paid me back with the money in my account withing 13 business days. I am now a believer. I make the Insurance Companies printable Insurance Card a part of my Journey Document. Pre-Print My Boarding Documents: The key to these documents is the barcode. The way NCL does this now, they register the bar code, and you are good to go. I put the barcode in the Journey document. You will also notice the NCL has new asked all of us for uploaded pictures, so they don’t have to take on at the terminal. It saves time and that is good since we all need a Covid-19 test at the terminal. Haven Pre-Cruise Online Desk: I send an email to these fine folks with pillow menu items, special requests, etc. This cruise we are in the (H2) Haven Deluxe Owners Suite with Large Balcony. It comes with a few extra amenities, so I make those request online. After so many cancellations and the fact this cruise was supposed to for my 40th Wedding anniversary; I figured make it an epic trip. If you got this far, you may be saying. “Gary, you do too much work. You should just go with the flow.” That is the normal response to me on these types of postings. What everyone does not understand is, once I have done these actions items, I am DONE. Completely DONE. I leave my house for the airport in an Uber, and I don’t have a care in the world. When my family is completely stressed out about the details, I just refer them to the Journey Document I gave them. Things still go wrong because that is the nature of a cruise vacation. Yet the thing I can handle, I do handle. Makes everything else so much less stressful. Well, there you have it. Let me know if you have any questions. Happy to help. Cruise well everyone.
  2. Sailing in the Haven for the first time in January and I’m still just struggling so much to understand the limits of what is acceptable to ask for. I don’t want to look like a fool or ask for something that is just not the norm and then be embarrassed. Like for example I see people on here referencing that their butler will serve them breakfast in their stateroom. What exactly is acceptable to ask for? Are we talking a carafe of coffee and some pastries? Or can I have a full hot breakfast like eggs benedict delivered to my room? From Sthrngary: As recommended, when you meet your butler, make sure they know to always (when it is open) provide your food choices from the Haven Restaurant. The Room Service food is less then spectacular. This now answers your question about what you can order. Just get a copy of the Haven Restaurant Breakfast Menu. I would recommend asking for the French press coffee. Remember, in the Haven, your butler is your room service server. The secret to butlers is to rally let them know how much you appreciate their service. The really want to please. Another example, afternoon canapés, can I go so far as to ask for some shrimp cocktail, or am I limited to something more basic? I also like meats,cheese,veggies,hummus etc for enjoying on the balcony when sailing away from ports during the cruise. Is that an acceptable request? From Sthrngary: The offering is usually the same for each Haven Suite. However, you can ask your butler for some other items as you indicated. Most of what you asked for should be more then acceptable. Communications is the key. A word of advice. The first few days those afternoon snacks are great. Then all the quality and quantity of food kind of gets to you. I have so far as asked our butler to stop delivering those snacks because the took my hunger away from dinner. You do you. I would love for someone to write a “Haven for dummies” thread to explain some of these and give real examples of what is acceptable and where the limit is. From Sthrngary: That is the post #1 that I did some years ago. Just go back and read it. The full version of that post was attached in one of the previous postings for download. Just know, there are no bad questions. I get what you are attempting to accomplish. Reach out to me anytime.
  3. All me to comment. I love watching prices mostly Haven Prices. I kind of have to much time on my hands so I do little informal studies. When a price on one of my cruises goes up, I look at how many of that category Haven Suites are available. I also find it very interesting to do comparisons between different ship sizes and the newest ships. I told you I had to much time on my hands. So here is my "unofficial" conclusion. Holiday times are just nuts in a Haven Suite. Just look at the week of Thanksgiving vs. the week after Thanksgiving on the Joy. Look at the Haven 2-Bedroom family Villas. The price discrepancy is insane. Normally I could see this because NCL does that 3-4th person free promotion so you really average out the cost by 4 vs. 2. Thanksgiving is a family cruise because the kids are off of school. This year, not so much with the NCL policy on Vaccination Only so many family are not booking until after January 1, 2021. Still huge difference. Then you go to other ships, same suites (Haven Penthouse not Family Villa) and the Haven prices are down. Finally you go to the Prima and the prices are over the top. I think this stream is more about getting a reasonable Haven fare vs. how really high they are so I will address that. The inexact science but seems to be working well for me is, cruise lines do the same thing as hotels for room/cabin prices. If they have to many, they reduce the price. Then cruise lines have another strategy, they offer bidding for Haven Suites like priceline. On a recent Encore sailing, there were a lot of Haven Suites left. The price was going down after the full payment was required. Still a lot were available. Then when NCL sent out their bid for a Haven Suite went out, they were all gone. Remember that when doing your planning. If you want a good deal on a Haven Room, book early and not on the newest ship like the Prima. That is why I did the Joy. Not enough difference from the Bliss or Encore to justify the costs. Second, take a risk. I have never won a bid for a Haven Suite. That is because I don't offer much. However if I want in with a strategy to win, I would know what the Haven Suite fare was, compared to what my stateroom actually is, then be aggressive with my up bid still getting a bargain. Do your due diligence. Remember you might come up empty handed that is why it is a risk. Third, book late close to the cruise if you can and have flexible plans. Just remember, prices on all staterooms are weird now due to covid and 60% to 70% reduced occupancy. Don't be upset with prices, just have some fun with them. Be flexible and do it as a kind of hobby. If cruising is fun which it is, so should shopping for a cruise. Cruise well everyone.
  4. Well, interesting turn of events. Allow me to kick in so thoughts. Remember, thoughts are just that, a person's experiences plus opinions. I also LOVE the Haven for its concept, quality, personalized service and the experience it gives me. Some of you might know me as the "Haven" guy that wrote the op-ed on the "Secrets to the Haven VIP Experience". If you have read the posts above this one, it is clear that shopping for Haven Suites is a very good idea. I watch the prices every single day on the sailings I am either on or would like to go on. Some one above made mention of a Regent Seven Seas voyage for less then a Haven. They said something about less bells and whistles on RSSC. I just have to address that. RSSC is without a doubt one of the best cruise experiences one can every have. It is as close to all inclusive as you can get. It is a Luxury Cruise, on smaller ships, that are port intensive with some of the very best personalized service on the sea. You simply don't go on these ships if you want waterslides or go carts. It is a completely different animal. I recently went on a Crystal Cruises for seven days to the Bahamas. If was less then the least expensive Haven cruise in my past. Crystal like RSSC is a luxury cruise experience. No comparison on any level to the Haven. These luxury cruises are the entire ship being the Haven on steroids. Until you try one, you will never know what I am saying. Yet, I still prefer the Haven. Did you think I was going this way???? I love the ability to go from energy, water slides, go carts, Broadway shows back to private, classy and secluded. I want the best of both worlds. Would I pay more for a Haven suite then a luxury cruise line like RSSC. Not for the same itinerary. I would do luxury. However lets remember, this luxury cruise comparisons are not apples to apples. They provide different experiences. So here is my advice. The prices for Haven suites on certain ships and itineraries are going down. On their newest ships maybe not quite yet. Evaluate the market has to offer, then remember to cruise they way you want and get what will make your cruise the best it can be. All that matters is we cruise, relax, make new friends and have great memories. Cruise well everyone.
  5. Well folks, I think this topic has been well answered. It has all the flavors of a great ice cream shop in the recommendations, advice and answers it has given. It was in a true sense the reason why folks come to CruiseCritic.com for due diligence. Congrats to all whom participated. I am in the final days of my upcoming cruise. This is were I look at all the crazy, insane, over the top and worthless preparation I have done four time previously for four cancelled cruises. Then I put it into a multi-page document digitally to give to my family. THEY do no planning at all. THEY pay no attention to details. THEY complain when things are not right. and THEY start asking obvious questions like when is our cruise, about NOW!. I give them the PDF copy of the book I compile and say, "Time to read it and if you try to change something, feel free to go on your own cruise!" Sound a bit harsh, well. My opinion is simple. Know how to approach your cruise and do what ever planning your past cruise experience has taught you that you needed now. Approach a cruise as if it is an All-Inclusive Vacation so what ever you can pay for, PAY IT. The moment your Uber Driver picks you up to go to the airport, state these words and mean it. "I am on vacation. I will not make any more decisions. If you don't like something, maybe you should have participated in the decision making process. Read the book I did for you and see you at the end of our journey. Hope you join me, I will be having a BALL!!!!" I will now leave this tread to the many whom are better at it then I. Enjoy which ever cabin you have. Cruise well.
  6. You are killing me. I look so forward to my upcoming cruise. Thank you for being so kind with your time and your picturesYou are killing me. I look so forward to my upcoming cruise. Thank you for being so kind with your time and your pictures
  7. I do not agree, I prefer first class on Delta. Lol. This thread was Destin to have opinions on both sides. I think everyone has expressed themselves very well. My little entry earlier told everyone how my daughter felt. She thought I was being bougie. She was right, and I like being bougie. Let’s see how she feels after she cruises in the haven at the end of November. I will report back. We all work hard and we can spend our money anyway we want. I will not travel on any cruise line if I am not in the haven type area. My choice, I never said it was the financially correct choice. I also like air-conditioned seats in my car which were absolutely not necessary. I just said after working so many years, I’m going to do what makes me happy.
  8. Those were the days for sure. However, the current Broadway Style shows with shows like Kinky Boots are pretty darn good. NCL seems to be my favorite entertainment ships. But yes, those were the days.
  9. I remember when my Butler, "Engin" (My nick name for him was Mr. Wonderful) asked if we would like a Fruit bowl. We both said no. Then he asked if we would honor him by accepting this candy box you posted. "Honor Him", "YES PLEASE". My wife was thrilled. Yes it was endless but we only did one. I maybe had just one. All I wanted was my wife to enjoy that one chocolate a night she gave herself (and the 1.5 bottles of wine of course). Little things make a difference on Crystal. Two hairdryers, afternoon teas in your suite or in the Palm Court, afternoon snacks, great coffee & snacks in the Bistro. I am on another board now with a huge debate on if the money for there "VIP" section is worth it. The answer there is it is up to the person. HOWEVER, take it from me, hearing about the Crystal Cruises Personalized Service, Food Quality, Shipboard Treatment and Amenities only truly makes sense when you experience it. I felt so fortunate to take my first Luxury Cruise on a Crystal Ship. It set the bar for future voyages. This thread it about Suites. All I have to say is, suite or stateroom, "Life is quite fine on a Crystal Voyage". Hope to see you all some day in Europe. Cruise well everyone.
  10. (Forgive my spelling and grammar. Focus on my message if interested.) 42 years ago, my lovely bride and I went on our first cruise. It was on the Norwegian SS Norway. I did not tell my wife we were cruising because she would have said "NO". You know the normal excuses like, "We don't have enough money.", or "I have to lose weight", or "I don't have enough clothes." On the Tuesday before the cruise, I told her and she was very upset with me. She did not talk to me until she was in the bus and finally saw "The Largest Cruise Ship" at the time. We sleep in a inside stateroom with bunk beds. Perfect for a Honeymoon. We thought this cruise was the most luxurious cruise in the world and the best vacation we have ever had. That was because we had never gone on a cruise or been on a vacation in our lives until then. Sure we drove hours to see relatives for events. We used to call that a vacation. Not the same as the SS Norway. We ate in the later dining time, 07:30 PM. No flexible timing back then. We had a relationship with our servers because was had them every night. We waved at them when they did the ridiculous Baked Alaska march on the formal night. We sat at a dining table with 8 other strangers. At the end of the week they were our best friends. We could only have one or two drinks a night because we had no money. After all, our stateroom cost $600.00 (That was the total for both of us). We went on one excursion, the party boat. This boat would go out with all you could drink rum punch. We did it because it was the cheapest excursion at the time. We got off the ship at every port and just walked. It did not cost to walk. We sat in lounge chairs way back from the pool because 42 years ago there were "chair hogs". The shows were fun and great. We never complained. We saw the "Four Tops", "The Fifth Dimension". and other older bands of the day. We ever say, "Red Buttons" a very old comedian. To us at the time and the five more times we cruised the Norway, now with our very young children. We thought it was the "Haven" on steroids but we did not know what the "Haven" was because it did not exist yet. As time went on, my wife and I started to do better financially in life. We got a stateroom with a window, then very small balcony, this was followed by a mini-suite, a suite and then a very large suite. We attempted to find a way simply to improve our cruising experience. Our taste changed and we want some additional luxuries and amenities. We wanted better service, food and less crowding. We wanted to have a relationship with our servers again because most cruise did not have a seating anymore. We wanted to get a drink by the pool without having to feel like we were on a line at Disney world for Magic Mountain. We wanted a piece of Prime Rib or Roast Beef that not only looked great but did not taste like rubber. We wanted to sit closer to the pool on a sea day and not have to ask a person on a empty row who was saving the entire row for their family (that never showed up) if we could sit in that row for a show. We still loved all a cruise had to offer. We were not millionaires or rich in anyway other they two folks that worked hard, raised their kids and tried to save some money here and their. We just wanted more from that one week a year we took a vacation. Not to much to ask for one week a year to feel like a "Rock Star". It was a dream we knew but we would try. Then we found late in our lives (late means in our late 50's) the Haven on NCL. The Haven scratched the itch we were looking for. We could have all those amenities that we were hoping for and access to the huge ship or so many other activities. The first Haven like many was a very good value. It was expensive but not to crazy. So, I said lets take a chance. We liked it and it was what we were looking for. Not for everyone, just for us. Our next Haven Trip will be in November 2021 on the NCL Joy. It should have happened almost two years ago for my wife and my 40th wedding anniversary. Covid-19 made that an impossibility. We were taking my entire family with my three adult children. It would be their first time in the Haven. So we leveraged all the benefits or refunds, bonuses, money off and booking well in advance. By accident on purpose, I was able to book the (H2) Deluxe Owners Suite with Large Balcony. Only two on the ship, 1500 sf. Two bedroom and 2.5 bathroom. We never had a wedding, we had a judger and sandwiches. We raised our children whom turned out ok with no college loans. We pay our bills and to rack up credit card debt. We just figured, 40 years was worth the major splurge. Just our story. Now we are debating the finer points of the Haven experience. "Is it worth it?" Every single person attempts so say it is relative to the wants, needs and motives of the person considering it. Many have never stayed in the Haven and want to judge it. Many have stayed and promote it. Many want to stay and looking for a reasonable upgrade opportunities. Some would not stay in the Haven for any reason. We want everyone to under stand our reasons so justify our decision. I personally have my reasons. I don't care if anyone agrees or disagrees. If you are on my cruise and you are in a inside cabin with no windows; I highly recommend it. I have been there and done that. If you are in any other stateroom or suite, you will have a great time. Say hello to me on the waterslide and the go cart track. If you are in the Haven, I am sure you have your reasons as I do. Enjoy it however never forget where we have all come from. Vacationing and cruising is a gift of memories. Make the most of it. Cruise well everyone.
  11. Times two, enjoy every single minute. I LOVE the Encore and Alaska is a dream vacation.
  12. @ChiefMateJRK and @complawyeryou both are some of my favorite online cruise critic teammates. My daughter whom is 31 and definitely a millennial because I was a horrible father and spoiled her said it best. "Daddy, why do we HAVE to do the Haven. We could get two non-Haven Suites with balconies so my significant other and I can have our own suite. Instead we are in a Haven Suite with you and mom." I said, "Because I am paying for this entire family vacation. I want to eat with my family. It will be mom and my celebration for our 42 wedding anniversary. AND, mom and I like the Haven!" The response was from my daughter, "But the Haven is Bougie." I said the following and it should put this entire conversation in perspective. "Then you stay home, don't go on the cruise and take care of the dogs for ALL of us. I will go on my so called Bougie cruise with mom and save a ton of money because you and your partner will not join." Result, My family of 5 will be on the Owners Suite on our upcoming NCL joy Cruise. Why, because I had four cancelled cruises, 125% future cruise credits, 10% off on our next cruise, booked it a year ago and NCL offered 3-4 guest free. I basically worked ever aspect of the deal to the best of my ability. By doing so, we can do my "Bucket list Suite" which I never in a million years thought I could ever do. My daughter got the point. My money, my choice, my vacation, my anniversay, and I get to do what I want to do because, "YES I LIKE to be Bougie for one week a year." I think that says it all. Cruise well my Bougie friends. You do you and just enjoy the experience. If you don't enjoy it, do something else the next time.
  13. Please allow me to add to this conversation. I booked the standard cabin with a veranda on my 7-day Bahamas cruise. My cruise was August 23, 2021. I did my due diligence on what was included and not included on a Penthouse or above. At face value, the reality is everyone once they leave their stateroom are treated the same. However, when you actually cruise, it is not face value. I was a first time crystal cruiser. I usually go in the VIP sections of the mainstream cruise brands like NCL - Haven, Celebrity - Retreat and MSC - Yacht Club. I have had many butlers. After my cruise which I was in a Penthouse Suite, the Butler is a "Game Changer". Nothing every comes close. The ability to have unlimited Specialty Restaurants is GREAT. The suite size makes a different. But the Butler is over the top. My advise, you do you, is to do a penthouse or above. Especially if you are doing over a week. Others will be very politically correct with their answers. I say, the butler made my cruise. Cruise well.
  14. Ok, just like in the MMA, I am tapping out. I am going to spend my time on the “Which Excursion is the best one” tread. I love the simple fact we all just love cruising. Life is good.
  15. Life is way to short my good friend. Might as well live it. The alternative is my Frenchbull dog lives in luxury when I am gone.
  16. I disagree. Apples and Tomato. I say Tomato, you say Apple.
  17. Please compare the Yacht Club to the Haven from your personal experience. Consider in your comparison to be "If both cost the same." Thank you in advance!
  18. I used to live in one of the Town Houses across the street from the Market in Ohio City. I loved Cleveland, the people and all it had to offer. I remember the Cleveland Airport well. You have chosen a GREAT ship for Alaska in the Encore. It was made for this voyage. Sure it will be cold, however if I remember correctly, Cleveland had a bit of chill in the air also. All kidding aside, this will be a much different cruise due to the weather for sure. However, universally, folks love it just for that reason. I love your blog and hope you keep it up. Enjoy every minute and please provide pictures from the observation deck. Cruise well.
  19. @HeymarcoAs someone whom has traveled for business for decades, I am forced to disagree. It is obvious that you have a very strong opinion. I respect it, I do. However, it is also quite clear you have never cruised in a Haven Suite. So allow me to assist your perception. I have cruised on a luxury brand. The suites were not quite as nice as a Haven Suite. I have cruised on almost all the Main Stream Brands. Both in normal staterooms and their equal to the NCL Haven. Very nice, not much better or worse. Just different. Maybe, just may be; one day you will find a bargain for a Haven Suite; maybe you will be able to upgrade at a bargain price. That is what got me stated. It may or may not change your mind. What is will do is allow you to reevaluate Best Western's.
  20. I could not agree more. Some days I feel my age and most days I feel so much younger. Kind of one of the reasons I like to cruise larger ships. The ability to do things that simply make you feel younger.
  21. LOL, I am actually 64 going to be 65. You are not older then me, you are wiser then me. Yes, I would really enjoy a visit on a cruise one day. CruiseCritic and the many folks we meet as well as interact with provide a once unavailable friend pool. Especially when the post well as you have always done.
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