DrFUN

That would be great. Any friend of Yosuke's is a friend of mine. :)

Love it!

:D

Mary Lou,

I am so glad you enjoyed Yosuke. He is such a sweet person and excellent guide. We also feel like he is a friend and will hopeefully be able to return some day to Japan to be with him again. Japan is quite a special place. Such lovely polite people. Thanks for letting us know your experiences.

Thanks, Mike!

We hope to sail with YOU two one day--or at least perhaps connect in person next time we're in the Boynton area. :)

Warmest wishes,

Mary-Lou

DH Dave and I are back from our fabulous 31-day Japan trip (one week in Tokyo and one week in Osaka before boarding the Volendam at Kobe for the 17-day Japan and trans-Pacific crossing to Vancouver) with countless happy memories and photos.

DH Dave and I loved the people and places of Japan--and cannot wait to return! One of the reasons we had such a marvelous time is thanks to Yosuke of Discover Japan Tours.

Major THANKS again to MVPinBoynton Mike and BowieMeMe Barbara for suggesting him on several threads of this forum!! :)

As Mike and Barbara have reported, he is marvelous--and so gracious and generous.

On the "Things to do in Tokyo" thread in this forum, I've provided details of our customized touring with Yosuke last month.

I'm happy to answer any questions about our time in Japan and our cruise.

Mary-Lou

DH Dave and I are back from our fabulous 31-day Japan trip (one week in Tokyo and one week in Osaka before boarding the Volendam at Kobe for the 17-day Japan and trans-Pacific crossing to Vancouver) with countless happy memories and photos.

DH Dave and I loved the people and places of Japan--and cannot wait to return! One of the reasons we had such a marvelous time is thanks to Yosuke of Discover Japan Tours (and thanks again to Barbara--BowieMeMe, above) for suggesting a few months ago and all her tremendously helpful emails!).

On the "Things to do in Tokyo" thread in this forum, I've provided details of our customized touring with Yosuke last month.

TOKYO HOTEL RECOMMENDATION:

We stayed at the Tokyo Hilton in Shinjuku--conveniently near the Shinjuku train station (busiest in the world!) but in a quiet business district with great views and a peaceful park but without huge crowds. This elegant high-rise hotel has gracious and helpful staff members at every point: front door, front desk, restaurants (several specialty restaurants plus main restaurant), executive-level and gold lounges. We would definitely stay there on our next trip, which we hope will be in the near future. :)

Mary-Lou

Tokyo, Japan

Yosuke Yokokura of Discover Japan Tours was our very personable guide to the huge city of Tokyo. He is full of suggestions of what to see and do BUT listens well and plans what you want to do (we were a little templed out and we were very tired on the 31st day of the trip) and help you see what interests you. Huge city and day and 1/2 but we felt like we saw as much as possible. email at office@discover-japan-tours.com

 

All of these guides were polite, spoke English well, drove safely in comfortable clean cars, communicated well by email to work out itineraries and then did what they promised for the price agreed upon. I highly recommend them to you if you are traveling in that part of the world. So much to see and experience. Safe travels.

I second Barbara's commendation of Yosuke (owner of Discover Japan Tours)!

DH Dave and I are back from our fabulous 31-day Japan trip (one week in Tokyo and one week in Osaka before boarding the Volendam at Kobe for the 17-day Japan and trans-Pacific crossing to Vancouver) with countless happy memories and photos--and want to again thank Barbara (and others on other threads) for telling us about Yosuke!

DH Dave and I loved the people and places of Japan--and cannot wait to return! One of the reasons we had such a marvelous time is thanks to Yosuke.

He took care of our private limo transfer from Tokyo's Narita Airport to our Tokyo hotel and personally conducted several outstanding customized day-tours for us: highlights of Tokyo one day using public transportation and another day in his comfortable van to Nikko to see the amazing temple/shrine and shogun tomb as well as the surrounding mountains, lakes, and waterfalls. I also booked him for six of us from our Cruise Critic roll call via his van to Kamakura (to see the world's largest outdoor Buddha in a gorgeous mountain setting) from our Tokyo port all--and everyone was thrilled with his expertise, graciousness, and friendliness, too. (His senior year of high school was in Colorado, and his English is perfect.)

We'd also booked a day for the two of us with him to Mt. Fuji on the last day at our Tokyo hotel--but there were heavy rains and he actually contacted us early that morning to tell us we'd not get to see much of anything AND, therefore, he immediately refunded our entire payment! This rarely happens in the tour business, and we were deeply impressed by his honesty and thoughtfulness.

Prior to our arrival, my husband and I had Skyped and emailed with him to customize our tours and get advice about many things (including the best way to maximize our JR Green Car Pass)--and he always followed up quickly and thoroughly (and patiently).

We feel as we now have a delightful friend as well as first-rate guide in Japan!

Let me know if you have any questions about our time in Japan or our cruise.

Mary-Lou

I second Mike's commendation of Yosuke (owner of Discover Japan Tours)!

DH Dave and I are back from our fabulous 31-day Japan trip (one week in Tokyo and one week in Osaka before boarding the Volendam at Kobe for the 17-day Japan and trans-Pacific crossing to Vancouver) with countless happy memories and photos--and want to again thank Mike (and others on other threads) for telling us about Yosuke!

DH Dave and I loved the people and places of Japan--and cannot wait to return! One of the reasons we had such a marvelous time is thanks to Yosuke.

He took care of our private limo transfer from Tokyo's Narita Airport to our Tokyo hotel and personally conducted several outstanding customized day-tours for us: highlights of Tokyo one day using public transportation and another day in his comfortable van to Nikko to see the amazing temple/shrine and shogun tomb as well as the surrounding mountains, lakes, and waterfalls. I also booked him for six of us from our Cruise Critic roll call via his van to Kamakura (to see the world's largest outdoor Buddha in a gorgeous mountain setting) from our Tokyo port all--and everyone was thrilled with his expertise, graciousness, and friendliness, too. (His senior year of high school was in Colorado, and his English is perfect.)

We'd also booked a third day for the two of us with him to Mt. Fuji on the last day at our Tokyo hotel--but there were heavy rains and he actually contacted us early that morning to tell us we'd not get to see much of anything AND, therefore, he immediately refunded our entire payment! This rarely happens in the tour business, and we were deeply impressed by his honesty and thoughtfulness.

Prior to our arrival, my husband and I had Skyped and emailed with him to customize our tours and get advice about many things (including the best way to maximize our JR Green Car Pass)--and he always followed up quickly and thoroughly (and patiently).

We feel as we now have a delightful friend as well as first-rate guide in Japan!

Let me know if you have any questions about our time in Japan or our cruise.

Mary-Lou

As noted in my post right above this one, DH Dave and I took a day-trip to Kyoto from Osaka (where we stayed at the St. Regis for a week prior to our trans-Pacific cruise from Kobe to Vancouver).

We had a 7-day JR Pass for the first-class Green Car (well worth it!), so we took the subway (from the major station conveniently located in the same block as our Osaka hotel) to Shin-Osaka to get our reserved Green Car seats and board the bullet train to Kyoto, to join another couple from our roll call who'd arranged a day of private touring with a Tours By Locals guide. (BTW: These guides are not the free/volunteers; they are licensed independent contractors with this interesting Canadian company that offers tours world-wide. I'd not heard about them until our roll call friends booked this day-tour for the four of us. It's an interesting concept, as you get to pick your tours and your guides, but you pay the company in your local currency.)

Our Kyoto tour guide was excellent--and as our friends had already spent several days in Kyoto (and also visited a few years ago also)--AND DH Dave and I had been touring for nearly two weeks, we opted for enjoying a leisurely day with longer visits at fewer venues. ;)

We spend a lovely morning at Kyoto's Tenryu-ji Temple--enjoying the grounds, which were in full bloom on this bright and sunny day. Loved the "silent waterfall" (leaves) at the tranquil lake and the walkways and flowers and bamboo path. Then the five of us had a magnificent ZEN vegan multi-course lunch at the temple's Shigetsu. We each had our own little table with very short legs and matching chairs with very short legs. (I am total vegan, so it was a fabulous delicious treat for me!) After lunch, we took the trolley to Ryoan-ji Temple to tour the peaceful grounds and study the famous zen rock garden. Before returning to our Osaka hotel, we explored the stunning modern architecture of the Kyoto JR station (with soaring glass ceilings) and had drinks with our friends near the top with great city views. Then we hopped the bullet train for the short ride back to Osaka.

We chose Osaka as our base for our second week, because we had a local friend there with whom we spent two glorious days AND we'd planned several day-trips to other cities, including a full-day customized tour of Hiroshima and Miyajima (also using a Tours by Locals guide--Mie T., who was excellent) AND my husband wanted to try Kobe beef (now he is spoiled forever). Please feel free to ask me for any info about our Osaka stay (or our Tokyo stay or our cruise).

Mary-Lou

Back from our fabulous 31-day Japan trip (one week in Tokyo and one week in Osaka before boarding the Volendam at Kobe for the 17-day Japan and trans-Pacific crossing to Vancouver) with countless happy memories and photos--and want to again thank everyone on this thread for sharing great suggestions!

DH Dave and I loved the people and places of Japan--and cannot wait to return!

One of the reasons we had such a marvelous time is thanks to THIS THREAD, where I learned about Yosuke of Discover Japan Tours--so my thanks to the posters above, some of whom I've emailed already! :D

He took care of our private limo transfer from Tokyo's Narita Airport to our Tokyo hotel and personally conducted several outstanding customized day-tours for us in Tokyo by public transportation and to surrounding areas in his lovely van (which I've detailed on the "Things to do in Tokyo thread).

We'd also booked a day-tour with him to Mt. Fuji--but there were heavy rains and he actually contacted us early that morning to tell us we'd not get to see much of anything AND, therefore, he immediately refunded our entire payment! This rarely happens in the tour business, and we were deeply impressed by his honesty and thoughtfulness.

Prior to our arrival, my husband and I had Skyped and emailed with him to customize our tours and get advice about many things (including the best way to maximize our JR Green Car Pass)--and he always followed up quickly and thoroughly (and patiently).

We feel as we now have a delightful friend as well as first-rate guide in Japan! (He also conducts tours in Kyoto, but he was already booked for our Osaka week when we learned about him.)

Let me know if you have any questions about our time in Japan or our cruise. (Below, I've added a separate post about our day trip from Osaka to Kyoto.)

Mary-Lou

Back from our fabulous 31-day Japan trip (one week in Tokyo and one week in Osaka before boarding the Volendam at Kobe for the 17-day Japan and trans-Pacific crossing to Vancouver) with countless happy memories and photos--and want to again thank everyone on this thread for sharing great suggestions!

DH Dave and I loved the people and places of Japan--and cannot wait to return!

One of the reasons we had such a marvelous time is that (on another Cruise Critic thread) I learned about Yosuke of Discover Japan Tours! He took care of our private limo transfer from Tokyo's Narita Airport to our Tokyo hotel and personally conducted several outstanding customized day-tours for us: highlights of Tokyo one day using public transportation and another day in his comfortable van to Nikko to see the amazing temple/shrine and shogun tomb as well as the surrounding mountains, lakes, and waterfalls. I also booked him for six of us from our Cruise Critic roll call via his van to Kamakura (to see the world's largest outdoor Buddha in a gorgeous mountain setting) from our Tokyo port all--and everyone was thrilled with his expertise, graciousness, and friendliness, too. (His senior year of high school was in Colorado, and his English is perfect.)

We'd also booked third day for the two of us with him to Mt. Fuji on the last day at our Tokyo hotel--but there were heavy rains and he actually contacted us early that morning to tell us we'd not get to see much of anything AND, therefore, he immediately refunded our entire payment! This rarely happens in the tour business, and we were deeply impressed by his honesty and thoughtfulness.

Prior to our arrival, my husband and I had Skyped and emailed with him to customize our tours and get advice about many things (including the best way to maximize our JR Green Car Pass)--and he always followed up quickly and thoroughly (and patiently).

We feel as we now have a delightful friend as well as first-rate guide in Japan!

Let me know if you have any questions about our time in Japan or our cruise.

Mary-Lou

DrFun I sent you 10 emails yesterday please let me know if you didn't receive them. Lots of reading for you.

I also thought of takayama its rather nice in the mountains not far from the Nagano winter Olympics site.

 

hiroshima miyajima kyoto and nara are definates if I was doing your trip. All of japan is beautiful enjoy every minute.

Yes indeed, dear Tara Jane: I am thrilled by your generosity in sharing all those wonderful memories and marvelous descriptions with me! :D

I've saved them all to my trip folder--and will definitely include a great deal of your excellent suggestions and tips in our itinerary planning.

And I will email you again this weekend--as I'm out-of-pocket today and Friday.

Again, please know how tremendously appreciative I am of your incredible wealth of info! Your reports make everything so visually clear that I feel as if I'm right there with you--and I love your sense of humor. ;)

A million thanks,

Mary-Lou (& Dave, too)

No worries, happy to help, I am not a great record keeper but somewhere I will have the itinerary as last trip I did with my sisters and one of them is so over the top in regard to organizing.

By the way, those prices quoted by Bowie me me, were they correct? I also found them unbelievably cheap. I wondered if there was a 0 missing from each of them.

To get into places in Japan, the entry fee is either dirt cheap or free, so unlike other countries.

You can eat either very expensive or very cheaply depending on your own wishes. There are many 7-11 stores on street corners, who unlike aussie 7-11 stores are very reasonably priced. It is possible to buy a meal, heat it in their microwave and sit at the table and chairs to enjoy. Not many big supermarkets as we know them. Have you booked your hotels yet?

THANKS A MILLION for your marvelous emails, dear Tara Jane! :D

I'm responding via email--but please white-list my email address, as it sometimes get trapped in spam filters....

BTW: As you and I suspected, Barbara confirmed that a zero was missing from the quote.

Mary-Lou

Thanks, Tara Jane, for your generous and most helpful tips! :D

When you have a few moments, would you share your thoughts about the following?

Thanks again for your helpful posting and for any additional ideas.

Appreciatively,

Mary-Lou (& DH Dave)

Mary Lou if you email me then I can send you a copy of the emails I have used. Somehow your address will not come up on this computer.:p

You've got mail, dear Barbara! :D

Please "white-list" me--DrFUN at RealisticRomance dot com--as my email address sometimes winds up in spam filters. Let me know if you don't get it....

Thanks a million,

Mary-Lou

Please remind me how to email you. You can email me btrafton@verizon.net then I will reply.

 

 

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Thanks, Barbara!

You can always email me at the link below in my signature line – but you are traveling, so I will email you. :-)

Talk soon,

Mary-Lou

Mary Lou I am finally getting back to you but I have the best of excuses. My granddaughter Johanna Ruth, was born on the 28th of Jan. We are still in Va for 2 more days and then I will look up Taki's price information and I will be glad to tell you of our experiences after we get back. I can say that the before experience on email has been excellent😊

Congratulations on the arrival of Johanna Ruth! :D

If you have a moment when you get home later this week, I'd be grateful for your Tokyo and Osaka/Kyoto guides' names/addresses and prices--as we have to plan now.

If you prefer, just email me.

Thanks,

Mary-Lou

Going to be in Japan March of 2015. We arrive in Osaka on the Quest Mar 3 and have 4th on ship before disembarkation on 5th. We have engaged a tour guide with car for the 3 of us for 4 days of sightseeing in Kyoto. In Japan a guide must have license for guiding and a commercial driver's permit. There are also the problem of a long drive from pier to Kyoto (over an hour) with a heavy toll for the faster bridge so this adds to the cost. Our guide is suggesting 1 day for west Kyoto and 1 day for east Kyoto and a day for Nara. Basically he will take us where we want to go. We will then taxi to train station and bullet train to Tokyo. We have another guide for 2 days in Tokyo who will show us around in car and the 2nd day drop us to the airport so transfers are included and makes the most of our limited time.

 

Some of the prices: $131.22 US for Kyoto to Shinagawa reserved seat on fastest train. one way. buy with guide help in Kyoto. 22,320 JPY for 3 days of guide and car in Kyoto region including transfers to and from ship and transfer to hotel on 2nd day with luggage (5,580 JPY per hour for car/guide)

8,500 JPY for the Tokyo tour (Discover Japan Tours) car and guide.

We find that with limited time to visit a place and my getting to be limited ability to walk long distances that it is well worth the extra cost for drop off at the door (or at least close) tour. It is private, it is flexible, somebody keeps you from making bad turns and you get to rest while being transported to the next thing to see (sometimes I pray for traffic jam to get more rest time!:D) plus there is a place for suitcases or your necessary stuff for the day. It has been working for us the last few years and really is not that expensive for the value you get.

 

Hope this is helpful in your planning. This might not be the cheapest of options -- (we wanted large car and you might be able to use smaller vehicle or no vehicle just a private guide and public transportation) I will try to get back on after the trip and tell you how our plans worked out as opposed to just contract for services that I have now.

Thanks for posting your itinerary and info! My husband and I are spending a week in Tokyo and a week in Osaka as bases for independent touring this April prior to boarding the Volendam at Kobe (to Vancouver)--and agree with you about the benefits of private driver-guides when time is short and there is much to see and do.

However, I'm not sure I understand your costs:

• "JPY 22,320" (about USD 200) for all 3 days of touring from Osaka to Kyoto and Nara--or even PER DAY for a driver-guide for 3 people? That is AMAZINGLY inexpensive for that area. Am I missing something? Please post or email me (link below) your guide-driver contact info.
  

• "JPY 8500" ($85!) for 2 days of private touring in Tokyo (usually about JPY 40,000 or more per 8-hour day), including and airport transfers to Narita (which seem to run from 35,000 [uSD 350] and up.... I know I've misread this. (If not, I'm ecstatic!) Please help me understand. And, again, please post or email contact info.
  

BTW: I appreciate your always helpful posts over the years! :)

Appreciatively,

Mary-Lou

So glad to see this thread! Thanks, dear CC friends, for always being on the cutting edge and creating such a caring community! :)

After being utterly shocked at this ridiculous design, I phoned HAL--and spend a half hour trying to explain to the very patient rep why I so frustrated (and he kept trying to tell me how to do it on the former system). Finally, he tried a booking from the "customer" side--and realized what I meant. Apologies ensued. I am doubly shocked that HAL didn't bother to inform its own customer reps about this major change! :eek:

Here is a copy of the email I sent to the above-posted social media link:

• Asks what stateroom I want without providing a deck plan.
  
  
• Does not show me the categories within a specific stateroom type (important for those using Amex or other category upgrades).
  
  
• Forces me to type in all kinds of personal info (including table size info!) before showing me a price--and never shows a category.
  
  
• Forces me to start all over again (providing the info for all pax once again--which not only incredibly tedious on a phone but even on a laptop) just to see a different category to which I might want to upgrade myself (from a Vista to a Neptune, for example--or from an SY to and SS) or for multiple friends who like different categories
  
  
• Makes me phone your service rep (a waste of YOUR time, as we use an outside cruise agent)
  
  
• Makes me look at Celebrity.

Seeing the specific category and price breakout (A-AA-B; SY-SS; SA, SB, SC, etc) in one place without having to do a COMPLETE entry of all personal info through several irrelevant screens--EACH TIME--is VERY important to many of us. And we aren't always in a private place where might easily phone a rep (whereas the Internet is always more readily available--even while sitting in a waiting room).

Hoping HAL gets with it!

Thanks again to all above!

Mary-Lou

It really depends on what type of "tourist" you are.

In fact, if you are a traveler instead of a tourist, Tokyo is even better.

 

It's currently the biggest metropolis on earth at 35 million people - with no crime. How do they do that?

 

Are you a foodie?

The city of Tokyo alone has more Michelin Starred restaurants than France, the UK, and the USA combined.

Many of the best 3 Star restaurants in France closed there and moved to Tokyo.

 

Are you a gadget freak?

Today in Tokyo you can buy all the state of the art electronics that will be introduced in Europe and the USA in about 5 years time. Show a foreign passport and they are all tax and duty free.

 

Adventure?

You can climb Mt Fuji in one day and ride back to Tokyo on a Bullet Train.

Or you can go to the top of the world's tallest structure (Tokyo Sky Tree) for a few dollars.

Tokyo Disneyland is far bigger and better than the ones in Europe and USA. If you get bored, Tokyo Disney Sea is right next door.

 

Shopping?

Have you ever been to the world's most amazing Department Store, Takashimaya?

For a bit of international flavor, you can also visit one of the Harrods or Printemps Department Stores.

They used to call Ginza Japan's version of New York's 5th Avenue. Now they call 5th Avenue New York's version of Ginza. There are more high end shops in Ginza than anyplace else on earth. Show your foreign passport and all purchases are tax and duty free.

 

Traveler?

Using Tokyo as a base, you can buy a multi-day JR Pass for peanuts. This allows unlimited travel on any Japan Rail train. You board a bullet train at Tokyo Station every morning, and you can be in nearly any distant Japanese city by noon. Have lunch, do a bit of sightseeing or shopping, jump back on the bullet train, and you can be back in your Tokyo hotel for dinner.

 

Sports fan?

Japanese are baseball fanatics - and they play pro baseball 12 months a year. The baseball stadiums are state of the art.

Go to a Japanese Baseball game and you may not want to go back to an American one.

Sumo? One of the oldest sports on earth. There are 5 tournaments per year; three are in Tokyo.

Marvelous ideas thanks 1 million for sharing this wonderful post.

Mary-Lou

Hi, Jennie!

I'd be grateful to hear anything that you learn about private tour guides – as DH Dave and I will be spending a week in Tokyo and a week in Kyoto before our April 2015 cruise from Kobe to Vancouver.

Thanks,

Mary-Lou

Hi Jennie

Don't know how you're doing with your quest, but in case it's of interest I made this from a few hours at Nara

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We had a guide as part of our overall holiday but most of the time was spent looking around so if you can get there on your own you could do a very decent job armed with a good guide book. All the best, Tony

Fabulous video! What month were you there? Will be there in April 2015… Thanks again for posting this beautiful visit!

Mary-Lou

Hey instead of flying from Tokyo to Osaka why not do the bullet train? Not that expensive I've been told and you get to look at Mt. Fuji on the way. This is something DH really wants to do so that is another experience plus added.

Great idea--but for us (with a month's worth of luggage) the flight makes more sense. However, we ARE looking forward to the bullet train for several different day-excursions that we have planned, including to Mount Fuji and to Hiroshima.

That's great. We are still looking for Feb. 2015 Bali to Osaka. How did you book the KIX (Osaka) leg? One way as after a stopover and part of the PHX booking. Also if you are using a tour guide in Osaka, please let us know what you are doing. Your 2 weeks before your cruise are going to be fabulous.

AIR: Osaka was our original destination (for several nights pre-cruise from Kobe), so when AA couldn't get us all the way on the first open day we were going to try for the next day...but then decided to keep the two legs (without the third) and spend time in Tokyo. For Tokyo to Osaka we'll just book a separate one-way via points or pay, as the fare for the one-hour flight is reasonable. And we'll fly into Itami (Osaka International), as it's much closer to the center.

GUIDES: Haven't looked yet, but will research it now that we have our confirmed dates. Please feel free to email me so we can keep each other posted if we learn anything. And we can check and report on the ports forum.

Warmest wishes,

Mary-Lou

Update: Got a great deal using American Airlines points--PHX-LAX/LAX-NRT, a little earlier than we'd planned to go, but we grabbed it! Best part was the seeming bad news that they couldn't get us on the last leg to Osaka, so we decided to spend 5 nights in Tokyo (Hilton points) and then an easy one-hour flight to Osaka for 8 nights (St. Regis points) before boarding so we can truly see a good deal of that part of beautiful Japan. :D

Thanks for the great advice. These boards are the best!

Appreciatively,

Mary-Lou (& Dave)

Just wanted to add that Cathay Pacific, which is in fact based in Hong Kong, has an excellent Premium Economy service for the big flights over the Pacific. We did this from OHare in Feb/March and we were very pleased. It costs something in the range of double an economy fare but it was worth every penny. Their hub is HK, so most flights connect thru there.

THANKS, dear Wendy!

I'll look into that.

Did P/E have leg rests that allowed you to elevate your legs (which is one of my primary concerns)...?

And was the connection in HK smooth?

Appreciatively,

Mary-Lou

About to try for biz class award seats via our USAir or our AA points--from PHX to KIX (Osaka) for our HAL cruise next April (one-way, as the cruise is trans-Pacific to Vancouver)--and do love ITA for ideas (thanks to Greatam, who first advised me about it :) )--but finding that we have very limited choices since the merger (no longer have Star Alliance--only One World).... Not sure I could do such long flights on Hawaiian Air with no real leg rests.

Also debating whether to break the trip in Honolulu for a night or two--or just get it over with a quick connection there--or with Cathay to Hong Kong--or JAL--or--??

Greatly appreciate any advice, as we've not flown this route, though we have done China and OZ/NZ.

Appreciatively,

Mary-Lou (& DH Dave)