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  1. I appreciate your opinion... I have mine agree to disagree.. apologies for going off topic regarding cruising.. Im done with this line of thought. Hopefully cruising starts sooner rather than later with the proper protocols
  2. I dont think they went to try to make it completely and totally bad. They needed people to know it was not the miracle cure others were touting so in order to get to the middle , then needed to stress that NO proven studies proved this medication helped at all. So they kept saying that. if it had not been for them stressing that no scientific study proved any effectiveness , there would have been a shortage of HQC and people who needed it for proven cures (not covid), would now not be able to get it causing more issues and not helping the people with covid even if they took it (Acc
  3. and as I said... if a hospital wanted to prescribe it they should but because of people claiming it was a sure fire cure... many scientists went to the media to stop that rhetoric and had to publicly say that there was no proven studies that was shown any effectiveness. The scientists and the media had to set the record straight once political figures touted it as a sure fire cure. if someone wanted it and the hospital wanted to provide it.. Im sure it was provided and people on this thread said they know it was prescribed many times
  4. The son of a high political figure (the highest), posted a video of someone claiming it was a 'sure-fire cure' and his tweet was 'MUST WATCH'. Twitter and YouTube took it down for false claims these are more than just his opinion
  5. I could be wrong but I don't think anyone banned its use. it was just publicized that there is no approved double blind study (gold standard) that said it showed any improvement whatsoever and there was a few studies done. I assume if a hospital wants to prescribe it, they could have. but I assume no one should feel this will significantly help.. if it does... great there was a political figure that said that HCQ was a miracle drug that could cure everyone and I think most others were trying to do damage control to make sure that mentality was corrected that's ho
  6. I believe hydroxychloroquine was not shown effective in any double blind case studies. I do not believe it had anything to do with the side effects. If you found a documented proved double blind study that shows that its effective, I would certainly want to know because as far as I know, there isn't one. This drug has saved lives for other issues and has helped many people but just not for covid that I have seen so far
  7. Also, this might be happening due to the change in administration coming. The CDC wanted to prolong the cruise ban longer and the current administration put pressure on them to open it up quicker. With the administration changing, maybe the CDC feel comfortable going back to their original thoughts on cruising
  8. thats a slippery slope. for every person that has it... they 'can' infect a person that is elderly or compromised or in some cases healthy people that will need hospitalization. so the more cases... the more likelihood people with compromised immune systems can get it and that will lead to more hospitalizations and more death most states have seen a rise in cases, followed in a few weeks by a rise in hospitalizations followed a few weeks later by a rise in deaths. this is why the percentage of infection at any given time is important
  9. no its not if you are talking percentage which is the only way to judge it 1000 people in a town 100 people tested 10 people test positive 10% of people tested are positive if you test 200 people 20 people are positive 10% of people tested are positive. the percentage is the same and we can start to see that about 10% is the positive case load. no matter how many people you test, the percentage should stay the same if you have a handle on the disease 1000 people in a town 100 people tested
  10. ALL my point was that NY has a high number of test... and a low number of positivity rates.. thats all I was saying and your quote here proves you agree.
  11. no... their decision to close businesses when they did, open them when they did , etc had to do with the economy the testing in and of itself has NOTHING to do with the economy..can you say that today if they stopped testing but kept all the other enforcement's in place the economy would be better? would you say if they doubled the testing the economy would be worse? Nope the amount of testing in and of itself only proves that more testing does NOT mean more cases. thats all
  12. all I was doing was proving the statement "It’s simple the more you test, the more you find. " is 100% false. thanks for agreeing that it is indeed false.. the other part of your statement has NOTHING to do with the point I was making and has nothing to do with the fact that the more you test DOES NOT mean more positive results. the testing ratio in NYC has nothing to do with the economic impact so my point is made.
  13. the how do you explain the current situation in NY that tests more than just about anyone and has one of the least positive rates (less than 1%) if the more you test, the more you find, NY would have one of the most daily positive cases in the country right now
  14. my son is a RD at a college and he was a 'close contact' with someone who tested positive. He was told by the state that he had to quarantine for 14 days because it could take that long to show a positive test result. in that time he was tested 4 times and all 4 times was tested negative but the 14 days is the time they believe a positive test could happen
  15. but would meemaw , after she contracts it from her children after they went on this cruise? (And there would still be breakouts unless you dont think people get the virus under the age of 60. They get it and some show symptoms... they just usually dont die. there would be outbreaks regardless)
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