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  1. Your correct, the email from Ontario Health for my second dose does says I got Pfizer but also says I received 2 doses and doesn't specify the 1st dose.
  2. The document I received from the Ontario Government only states "You have received 2 valid dose(s)" , I wouldn't worry about this.
  3. With new, possibly vaccine resistant , variants arising I wouldn't expect international cruising to return for quite a while. The world needs to be vaccinated, not just the western world, or variants will continue to develop and world cruising likely won't return until then. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/south-africa-suspends-astrazeneca-vaccine-drive-1.5299360
  4. At least in Canada in provinces the majority of deaths were in Long Term Care facilities. I would guess health care workers and then police/fire department would be first on the list. I guess the bad thing with that, if the vaccine turns us into zombies because they rushed it, we would lose the most important first.....😃 I also suspect some companies will try to acquire doses for their employees so they can ramp up. I agree (not a senior yet btw) that those who are employed and have to take public transit to work, for example, should get priority over a healthy senior. We need to get our downtowns working again. Also, if we want to relate this to cruising, how long will it take for cruise lines to get all their employees vaccinated, most don't live in North America? I would guess the cruise industry will on the shelf longer than other tourism industries. PS When you compare Canada, US and European rates of infection/deaths to places like Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam etc. I wonder how they get it so right and we keep getting it so wrong?
  5. Dunno, but it sure is a pale comparison to the "real" Paris. Couldn't find their version of the Louvre either...😄.
  6. Agree, I am on a Staycation, which when you were already working from home sucks even more (I know, a first world problem). We did however make it to Paris......Ontario......
  7. I agree, I don't get it. You have to wonder would these same people have objected as vigorously to wearing a seat belt in a car or helmet while riding a motorcycle, do they not buckle up in turbulence while flying?? Wearing a mask while in a store or other indoor place seems like a small price to pay for keeping each other safe because thats the primary purpose of a mask, keeping others safe from the mask wearer.
  8. This would clearly help, in fact a quick test would probably be one of the best ways to control the virus and stomp it out someday. However, not sure I want to spend all that money and get turned back at the gate because I had unknowingly contract Covid a day or two before. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-australian-researchers-invent-20-minute-coronavirus-blood-test-2/
  9. We don't want Americans in Canada either (nothing personal), we are looking at your infection rates with concern, ours have dropped substantially and are still dropping.
  10. No offence I've been to Epcot, the people who go there and actually think it is like going to Europe are probably the ones who are too ignorant or stubborn to wear a mask. 😃
  11. Same here, I fly (flew?) a lot for business and invariably I would get sick a few days after flying at least a couple of times a year. Problem for the cruise industry is the airline industry's problems are tacked on. For the cruise industry to recover, people will need to feel comfortable flying again as well.
  12. Actually I trust the kitchens of cruise ships much more than my local restaurant. They know that they have to practice good hygiene in the ship's galleys or they could have a wide spread infection impacting hundreds or thousands of passengers. I trust the employees much more than my fellow passengers.
  13. Yeah, I want to get in a fight with a stranger in a public washroom, (pretty sure I could have taken him...😄 )but who wants to get into a tussle with a stranger with you know what on his hands. We will always have slobs, nothing will change that. PS when I said no buffets I meant no more self serve, I get the logistics.
  14. Back when Celebrity had the big brunch on the last sea day, a woman was at the chocolate fondu, took a bite out of here fruit skewer and double dipped it back into the fondu....I saw it with my own eyes...gross. No wonder I border on germophobia....
  15. I always hated buffets on the ships, especially the time I was washing my hands in the washroom right outside the Oceanview cafe and a guy walked right out of the stall past the sinks. Witnessed him spooning food on his plate, infected everything he touched with his dirty hands. When cruising starts up again the buffets need to be removed permanently. https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/japanese-experiment-showcases-how-quickly-viruses-can-spread-at-buffets
  16. Regardless how the cruise lines restructure financially everything is dependant on customers returning and as you state countries actually allowing cruise ships to dock. You won't get the former without the latter. I have been reading a lot of articles on the cruise industry since Covid and there seems to be a substantial percentage of the population that loathe the industry for various reasons (pollution, crew member wages, avoiding taxation, etc). The more I read the more I believe that the industry that appears post Covid will be substantially different and be significantly smaller than it currently is. I have never personally liked the fact that ships were getting bigger and bigger. Other changes, for example Celebrity's newest ship class greatly expanding the sq footage for suite customers at the expense of everyone else is another negative industry trend. Covid has really exposed the fundamental problems with the industry. There is a serious reckoning coming and I have come to the conclusion that to place any of your money at risk for even a nominal deposit does not make any sense at this time.
  17. Agree with you, the small Caribbean countries will not allow cruise ships to dock if there is anyone on a cruise ship with even a runny nose. I don't blame them. BTW an unnecessary resurgence from opening up too early will cause substantial grief in much more than just the cruise line industry.
  18. Good points. The fact they state that they have 12 months of liquidity is a positive, from NCL “This strengthens the company’s financial position and ensures it is well positioned to withstand well over 12 months of voyage suspensions in a potential downside scenario.” If they have liquidity for 12 months that is a good thing. However as you state, consumer confidence in booking future cruises and providing deposits is going to be a problem until they start sailing again. Maybe they need to go to a no deposit or very low deposit business model for a while. Also, this kind of news isn't just going to impact NCL it will impact the outlook on the entire industry. It surprises me that the US government isn't assisting cruise lines even just for the number of head office positions that they have in the US. NCL's headquarters are in Miami.
  19. Common shareholders would suffer a substantial devaluation in their investment under a restructure, there are less risky investments out there. One of the biggest issues here will be consumer confidence in the company, who is going to book a cruise with NCL now? I guess those who don't follow the news will still do so. This is sort of like what happened to the domestic car manufacturers (GM and Chrysler) they did go bankrupt in the US and sales dropped precipitously but obviously recovered. The difference is they received substantial support from the US and Canadian governments. NCL will be hard pressed to survive without some direct government support.
  20. You must get your non fake news from Twitter. Geez, get a grip, this is reality.
  21. Part of the problem cruise passengers will face is they will likely be sailing on ships that should have been refurbished but due to the economic calamity caused by the virus the cruise lines simply don't have the capital to spend in the near term. Airlines will defer purchases of new planes as well, some of the damage to business travel with people realizing they can do a lot remotely will be permanent. This will impact airfares as us business travellers, tend to book late and pay more, really subsidize vacation travellers who book months in advance. So getting to the cruise ship will cost more at least in the medium term. Every way you slice it the tourism industry is in for a rough ride.
  22. Good points. Guess we are in the traveler camp, we did a land tour of Vietnam last fall (feels like a decade ago now...) which was favourite vacation to date. We really like cruising too, but find that now that we cruise without our kids (not on school holidays), the cruises we go on lately cater to a much older demographic, especially the entertainment. Although we will endure it for the right itinerary. Bottom line, there is much uncertainty in the tourism industry right now so I don't think anyone can predict how quickly we will get our of this.
  23. Not sure about consolidation, for some time period there will be excess capacity in the industry so not sure a bigger cruise line is what would make sense. I would guess older ships would get decommissioned rather than refurbished. With liquidity an issue, you will also see longer periods before a ship is refurbished. This will all be dependant on whether or not we completely stamp out the virus.
  24. Yes, its a little surreal to me that anyone would even risk their deposit money at this point. The cruise, airline and general tourism industries resurgence is more closely tied to a cure/vaccine for COVID than all others. Who wants to get on a plane to go somewhere right now? How many of us have been on planes where someone was coughing up a lung, sneezing, sniffling, remember how that made you feel? Imagine how that would make you feel now? Most of us need to fly to get to our cruise. Some of the lines, specifically Princess will be suffering class action lawsuits over their handling of the outbreaks on the ships. Not normally something that would take down a cruise company but things are anything but normal right now.
  25. This quote in the article struck me...."Norwegian continues to receive new customer deposits and final payments on future bookings for 2020, 2021 and 2022." Not sure how much they are receiving in final payments but seems to me anyone making a final payment could be putting themselves in place as an unsecured creditor if NCL doesn't make it through this. Clearly the cruise industry, even in a best case scenario, won't return to some sort of normalcy until well into 2021. Firstly people are going to have to get comfortable getting on a plane, which will take a while itself.
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