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  1. We'll only be waiting until restrictions on travel are lifted, rolling lockdowns are a thing of the past and we can vacation without masks by the pool or a ban on dining with people outside your 'bubble'. That applies to any vacationing, not just cruising, but at soon as going away is possible and actually likely to be fun, we'll be on the first plane or ship. Currently that feels like it might be a way off yet when even visiting a shop or having a meal out is a miserable experience .. but that will eventually change.
  2. Just look here https://www.seabourn.com/en_US/news/pause-global-cruise-operations.html to see the current state of cancellations. Different ships are subject to different cancellation schedules and currently the cruise you're talking about is the first one Quest is due to sail (its pause finishes November 6th). Until international travel returns to some kind of normal, which means quarantines are lifted, planes start flying regularly and you don't need to sit on a 20 hour fight wearing a face mask (only to then spend 2 weeks on a ship not wearing one), we're staying home and supporting any local restaurants which actually are still around to re-open here after what will be more than 3 months shut.
  3. Perhaps domestic flights are less affected but international travel has all but stopped. Examples, our flag carrier, Singapore Air has 96% of flights cancelled, Emirates was down below 2% flying last I looked, BA, all flights from Gatwick cancelled until further notice and most other routes flying once a week, EasyJet, none flying, RyanAir, none flying. Many countries currently have quarantines on returning residents and absolute bans on non-residents. I can't actually think of the nearest country to here I could fly to at all, not Malaysia, not Indonesia, Thailand, Australia or NZ. Even if I found one I could go to, I'd face 2 weeks quarantine at a government facility at my own expense when I returned. My sister-in-law just returned from Sweden, it took her nearly 2 weeks before she found a flight which wasn't cancelled before it took off and that ended up going via Doha, 6 people on the plane to Doha, 4 from there to Singapore. There is a skeleton service flying to bring residents home worldwide with a couple of flights a week but for the most part international flights are completely suspended because there are vanishingly few people who can enter many countries right now.
  4. in normal times you can have them refunded. I had one refunded when it was coming close to expiration and it was clear we wouldn't be use it before it did. These days .. I have no idea how long it would take to get one back.
  5. Well while getting on a plane, especially for a flight longer than a couple of hours, requires the passenger to don a mask I'm sure that I and many other people will be staying home. The last flight I took was 22 hours home from NY and had I been required to wear a sweaty face covering for the duration, I'd have swum home. Flying will get back to normal when and only when people are able, and feel safe, to gather together in numbers for an extended period without such measures. That may be a vaccine, it may be herd immunity, it may be people just deciding en-masse that enough is enough, I have no idea, but until then, I shall confine myself to the 721.5sq.km of Singapore. It is fortunate that we flew and cruised and travelled as much as we did the past 20 years, if I have to take a break from travelling, I can live with it. Forward staycation (and no need to board the cats!).
  6. You can read it on seabourn’s own site https://www.seabourn.com/en_US/news/pause-global-cruise-operations.html yours is already cancelled.
  7. we were on the next cruise afterwards and the CD and ACDs didn't change between those two cruises. The allegation in that complaint is completely impossible.
  8. I did read carefully before I posted yesterday and did not see refund mentioned. Either I am starting to have senior moments, or the wording was updated. Certainly agree it says it now.
  9. I read it but .. can they? I'm sure they can offer FCC, they can even prefer FCC however I would have thought, at least in many jurisdictions around the world, that if you buy something and the seller says they cannot deliver it and cancels it, refund of your purchase price must be an option.
  10. We loved it too, much preferred it to the TK grill concept. There were to be fair lots of complaints about how stale the concept was at the time but I think a lot of that falls at the feet of Seabourn who left the same sequence of menus to rotate, let the decor get a little dated and rested on their laurels. I find it odd that a business which relies on repeat customers rolls out a concept and then doesn't continue to change it to keep the experience fresh. R2 was certainly popular, we were always happy to take a cancellation or an early table to get in an extra reservation and there were many cruises that pretty much never happened. So their eventual response, instead of inventing a new concept and rolling it out, was to partner with a celeb, spend vast amounts converting the space and kitchens and roll out a restaurant with a fixed menu. I think they'd have done better refreshing R2 and holding onto at least the name, which harkened back to the little sisters, and if they wanted to have a celeb chef name, limit it to a daily special in the MDR, one preferably done somewhat better than the occasional TK special they now seem to be giving up on. Personally I've never had a problem with the food dreamed up by Seabourn's chefs, either on land or in the galley and find the whole celebrity idea a total distraction.
  11. https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/5322/?et_cid=3328640&et_rid=16714348&et_referrer=June 2008_Boards Mailing no letter required.
  12. I think the Australian one is based on the one they released here in Singapore a month ago. However the take up here hasn’t been more than 20% as far as I have read so far and the estimate is you need about 80% to be effective. I’m assuming that if we ever get to the point the lockdown here is relaxed having a running contact tracing app on your phone is going to be mandatory before you’re allowed to enter a mall or anywhere else you may find other people. edited to note that if this is based on the current Singapore app, iPhone restrictions on background apps mean it’s not that useful unless the app is the front foreground app ie you switch back to it after using any other app. im waiting for the joint Apple and google framework which they are rushing out which should work much better on all devices and has pretty good privacy built in.
  13. I think it's a lot different actually. I expect that the staff who laid the table have been taught proper hygiene techniques as were the staff who touched the cutlery beforehand. I certainly trust that a lot more than the handle of a spoon which has been grabbed by 50 passengers before me as they ladled out food. No guarantees in life, however I feel that being served food by trained staff is something not to be that concerned about however the shared implements used in buffets are a very easy vector for things to spread between passengers whose standards of hygiene differ. Since SARS a few years ago we have taken to carrying a spray bottle of alcohol-based sanitiser when we travel. I cannot claim I always remember to use it after heading to the breakfast buffet many hotels we go to have or getting back on the coach after a visit, but I certainly try to.
  14. I certainly hope nobody's thong has ever slipped into the salad 😄, neither the British nor Australian version. I don't see a lot of people picking food out of the salad with their fingers, that would not be nice. However I am always surprised to see people carefully picking up bread and rolls with the tongs, tongs which many others have touched, and then sitting down, picking up the roll and eating it with the same fingers they were handling the tongs with. Basically if you are serving yourself from a buffet with shared serving spoons in the mashed potato, shared tongs in the salad, orange juice from a jug which everyone has picked up etc, your hands are now contaminated with whatever everyone else had on their hands so keep them away from your mouth, away from your face or spritz them with alcohol solution before you eat. This is why I prefer to have my food served to me. I come to the dining room with clean hands and there are far fewer opportunities for them to become contaminated.
  15. I re-read the start of that thread a couple of weeks ago. It's interesting to see how many divergent opinions there were at the start, unsurprising, there was very little information and I think everyone was weary and wary of another WHO-inspired panic, overhyped by the echo chamber which is the world's media which then rapidly fizzled out. Regrettably this one turned out to be real and containment failed. It sure does feel longer than 3 months, and that disconnect between perceived time and the real world grows ever greater every day we spend in lockdown. I look forward to the time we're back to arguing about the quality of the toilet paper, counting the shrimp in the cocktails and whining about The Retreat (which could perhaps be turned into an isolation ward for any passenger who gets sick on future cruises .. ok I'm just joking).
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