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  1. 59 minutes ago, terrydtx said:

    That is your choice and most will not have any problem with that.  However,  do not complain when you will have to stay home and not be able to board a cruise ship or fly Internationally for the next few years because of your choice.

     

    I got into a heated discussion about that yesterday.  The other person feels that travel industry shouldn't be able to dictate that people can use their service if vaccinated or not.  My response was it's a private business, so they can make their rules and they need to also keep their employees safe.  That didn't go over well.

     

    Mind you, this person is definitely very pro-mask, etc., but takes umbrage at that.  Personally, whether we can travel or not, I'll get the vaccine.  But if all of the travel industry requires people be vaccinated, I'm behind them 100%.  I'd prefer not to see people stuck in a foreign port on a ship while the virus runs unchecked again...

  2. 3 hours ago, RiotAct said:

     

    That article definitely needs a much better proofreader...

     

    "Shan Soe-Lin, Ph.D., a lecturer in global affairs at Yale University in New Haven, Connecticut, and a trained epidemoioglost who predicted in April 2019 that mask-wearing would continue until at least the spring of 2020, said that she believes the trend will continue as a social norm even as vaccines begin to be distributed."

     

    I think they mean 2020 and 2021 respectively.  But, hey, I won't call them trash or anything like that.  Mistakes happen after all.

     

    :classic_wink:

  3. 12 minutes ago, LGW59 said:

    We are in almost exact situation.  Aug 28th, depart from and return to Barcelona.  Will Spain, Malta, Turkey and Greece let us in??? Hopefully we can have received the vaccine by summer and the rest will play out as needed.

     

    My situation is a tad better with my cruise in October and final payment due the end of July.  I'll only pay if my wife and I are inoculated by then.  I hope you're fortunate and you're able to go.

  4. 21 minutes ago, emmas gran said:

    I read this BBC regarding USA and vaccines

     

    President-elect Joe Biden says Americans won't be forced to take a coronavirus vaccine when one becomes available in the US.

     

    It may be true may not, just quoting what I read

     

    Liz

     

    While I personally feel that they should make it mandatory, I understand the politics in why Biden is saying what he's saying.

     

    One thing to remember here:  If you're 55 and older and you catch this virus, you have a 92% chance of dying from it.  So those of us who are over 55, why wouldn't you get the vaccine then?  Oh, and that's NOT a made up number.  That number comes directly from the CDC (LINK)

  5. While I'm sure this has been posted here before (honestly, I'm not going to search through 1,500+ comments! :classic_laugh:), here's the CDC's recommendation for vaccine allocation:  https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2020-11/COVID-04-Dooling.pdf

     

    It's going to be a bit of a clusterf*** the next 46-90 days in getting things organized, but I strongly suspect by February 1st everything will be firmly in place and people will be getting vaccinated.  And that by June/July the majority of the people who want to be vaccinated will be.  The key to getting back to semi-normal is that at least 70% get vaccinated, but I unfortunately think that only 50% will get inoculated. 

     

    IMO, they need to treat the Covid vaccine roll out like they treated the polio vaccine early on: make it mandatory. Period. At least for 2 years.  Anti-vaxxers can piss & moan as much as they want, the needs of the many, etc., etc., etc.

  6. On 12/2/2020 at 8:48 AM, TeeRick said:

    In the very unlikely event that some cruise lines let passengers board without a vaccine, the ports and country entry points and airlines and airports might in fact require vaccination proof.  We will be living in a very cautious world the next few years.  Let's not fight it- just get vaccinated for all of our sakes!

     

    Agreed.  Hell, there are certain countries that will deny you entrance unless you're vaccinated for various diseases already.  I don't recall too many people crying about their rights being all trampled on.

     

    They really need to adopt your saying:  Let's not fight it- just get vaccinated for all of our sakes!

  7. 7 hours ago, d9704011 said:

    See the section ‘Groups Considered for Early Vaccination if the Supply is Limited’.  The inclusions in some of the groups can be quite broad.

     

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations-process.html

     My wife falls under 2 of those conditions whereas I'm only under one of them:

     

    • People at high risk for severe COVID-19 illness due to underlying medical conditions
    • People 65 years and older

     

    My wife is older than 65 and we both are diabetic.

     

    Be that as it may, our only concern right now is being able to get vaccinated by the end of June, which I believe will be very possible.  Not only to provide us with the potential protection, but, for purely selfish reasons, we have a cruise where the final payment is due on July 29th.  I'll pay it if we're vaccinated by then.  If not, I cancel and move forward with a "back up" cruise that we have booked.  I won't take the position of "well, we might be vaccinated by the cruise..."  The only way we cruise now is with a vaccine being available and we've definitely been inoculated.  What others do is up to them. But I hope people aren't idiots and ignore science.  (Yeah, I know.....)

  8. 6 hours ago, emmas gran said:

    We have a Yellow Fever passport style vaccination card, issued when we had the injection that could be printed ready for the vaccine in any country as proof.

     

    Someone in the UK has suggested that obese people with a BMI of over 40 should also get priority vaccine, this has caused a lot of discussion also.

     

    I was going to bring up the requirement  for a yellow fever vaccine for some countries, the same will need to be applied for any type of travel for a Covid vaccine I'm sure, especially international travel.

     

    My wife and I fully intend on getting vaccinated once we're able to do so.  We're both in the "high risk" area, so we'll be able to get one sooner rather than later.  If it's an annual shot (or shots), so be it.

     

    One final thing, not directed at the above quoted comment, we'll all still be wearing masks for travel for quite a long time, if not forever.  It may not be as strict as it is now, but it'll possibly prevent those 5-15% who aren't helped by the vaccine from getting sick.

  9. 22 hours ago, terrydtx said:

    I can see this being a requirement to get on any cruise ship along with rapid testing before boarding for 2021 and 2022. Additionally I can see,  once a vaccine is available most International airlines and destinations may have the same requirements.

     

    I have absolutely NO problem with that.  IMO, that's the only way to get us cruising again.  

  10. 55 minutes ago, Fouremco said:

    You state that this is "the prioritization list", but the document you've posted only states "How the COVID-19 vaccine could be rationed". Do you know if the list has now been approved as the official US list?

     

    My error.  Should not have used "the" but rather "a".  However, from everything that I've read so far, both in the news and officially (i.e. CDC), that list seems to be accurate and it makes sense.

  11. On 11/13/2020 at 9:42 AM, K.T.B. said:

    This Sunday night on MSNBC, there's a show that might interest people.  It's called On Assignment with Richard Engel.  It's titled "The Race for the Vaccine".  It starts at 10:00 PM EST/9:00 PM CST.

     

    I'm watching this right now.  Amazing how quickly this has moved.  If you can find it replaying, I recommend watching this.

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