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  1. Initially it's going to be a bit of a nightmare, but that's how it is when something new is being implemented.  Eventually they'll get the kinks worked out and they'll have a system set in place.


    Right now I'm not concerned about it.  My wife and I plan on getting vaccinated.  We plan on going on our cruise in a year.  We hope the cruise lines all have plans in place to make sure all the crew and passengers are vaccinated.  Regardless, we'll do what need to be done in order to cruise.  We won't complain if it means keeping everyone safe.


    Cruising/travelling is not a right, it's a privilege.  They makes the rules and we need to follow them.

  2. 4 hours ago, CRUISEFAN0001 said:

    "Normalcy" will be new safety procedures in place and all crew & passengers vaccinated.


    That has become pretty obvious based on communications to crew members being told they cannot return to work without vaccination documentation, as well as many countries mandating vaccination prior to acceptance at ports and airports.


    Despite the moaning and whining by some...the sooner people get used to that reality and conform, the sooner "normalcy" in cruising will happen.



    And you deserve this as well:



  3. 23 hours ago, deadzone1003 said:

    Unless they are planning not to approve the J&J vaccine, it will be a almost total waste of money.  Delivering and distributing the Pfizer vaccine will be a nightmare during the June/July.  I hope the purchase allows for switching adult vaccines to children's vaccines.  Before this latest vaccine purchase and if J&J vaccine gets approved, we will already have purchased enough vaccine for 300,000,000 adults in the USA.  The entire adult population who are willing to be vaccinated will likely to be vaccinated before this new order starts getting delivered.  Like I said, unless they are not approving the J&J vaccine, a total waste of money.


    22 hours ago, nocl said:

    Not much difference delivering and distributing the vaccine in June and July than there is in the winter.  The shippers work equally well, the freezers at the end points will still work.  Really no more issues in the summer than in the winter


    Exactly what nocl said.  Besides, at least here in Illinois, they're amping up the ability to get vaccinated at local pharmacies.  I still think my dates will be fairly accurate.

  4. 10 minutes ago, TeeRick said:

    Not so sure that I agree with you on this point.  I think the cruise industry will develop a solution working with maybe multiple government programs.  Having the crew fully vaccinated will go along with a return to safe cruising for passengers, crew, and ports.  I personally would feel horrible to cruise as a vaccinated passenger while the poor hardworking crew members remain at risk.  Even if vaccinated I would not cruise a line or ship that does not take care to protect its crew first.



  5. By August every adult in the US could easily be vaccinated.  Not everyone will, of course, 'cause stupidity, but the crew members can certainly be vaccinated by then.  So my guess is by July-ish cruises start up again slowly, with full implementation by October.  

  6. 1 hour ago, phoenix_dream said:

    Getting vaccine versus administering it is the key.  As a fellow Chicagoland person I'm surprised you don't share my skepticism about our ability to administer it effectively.  We are currently WAY near the bottom of the list with states and their efficiency.  Hopefully we will improve!


    Right now?  You're correct.  In the next couple of months, I think it'll be a heck of a lot easier.  I know that Walgreens will be getting up and running for distributing the vaccine soon.  


    Here's a good article on the subject of pharmacies giving vaccinations:  LINK

  7. Well, with the news yesterday that the US government is buying an additional 200 million doses of Moderna & Pfizer (LINK), there is absolutely zero excuse for 100 % of the adult population (18+) to not be vaccinated by August.  There will actually be an excess of dosages, so that means teens can then be vaccinated, assuming there's no risk.  (So far it appears there is no risk.)


    It appears there is light at the end of the tunnel, and it's not an oncoming train!

  8. 20 hours ago, D C said:

    I'm amused by the people who deny being anti-vax but are.


    "I won't get the flu shot"

    So you're anti-vax?

    "No, I got all of my regular shots, but I won't get the flu shot"

    You know it's effective, right"

    "Yeah, but I won't get it"

    You admit it works, yet won't get it?  So you're selectively anti-vax?


    Then why won't you get it?

    "I just....I've never had it and never had the flu"

    So you won't get a vaccine just because you feel lucky?


    So you're anti-vax?



    Well, I can't get a flu shot as it makes me violently ill.  That won't stop me from getting a Covid vaccine though.

  9. 24 minutes ago, grandgeezer said:

    With 360 million people in the U.S., that's not near enough to even get more than a mention.


    Tourism in Alaska accounts for nearly $2.2 billion.  A large chunk of that is cruising.  


    You may want to reconsider.

  10. I got into a... heated disagreement with someone yesterday about getting vaccinated.  They said they won't because they're allergic.  I pointed out there there will many varieties of vaccines coming out, not all with be mRNA vaccines like Pfizer or Moderna.  And I actually had a list to show them, but they cut me off by saying, "Well, I heard...."


    I just shook my head and tuned them out then.  I seriously do not understand the reluctance.

  11. On 1/27/2021 at 3:54 PM, grandgeezer said:

    What market wants it besides the cruising industry? That's just a small percentage of the overall picture. The tail won't wag the dog.


    Well, there are several cities in Alaska that would want it.  Many ports in the US.  Not just the cruising industry is affected by this.

  12. On 1/26/2021 at 11:39 PM, Arizona Wildcat said:

    Won't happen.  There is no need as cruising is not an essential activity.  Would ask hypothetically if you could run "cruises to nowhere" or between only US ports where would that be?

    On the West Coast all ports from San Diego to Seattle have huge COVID numbers.  Same on the East Coast unless you can cruise from Maine.

    What is essential is having US flagged ships to move fuel and other goods between ports.  Do we want to depend on other countries?  Not likely as There are almost 41000 Jones Act vessels with thousands of US employees.  Many of those jobs would be lost to non US workers.

     It may not be essential, but if that law affects the economy in a highly negative way (which it currently does) it should be changed.  Don't forget, because of the Jones Act, vital assistance to Puerto Rico was delayed until the US government issued a waiver of the law temporarily.  The same can be done for PSVA until they ultimately change it.

  13. On 1/26/2021 at 10:47 PM, JRG said:


    That argument fell apart like a new cheap suit.   Here is why:


    You don't need to repeal it.    As soon as you say that some posters blow their smokestack because they can't differentiate between modification and repeal.


    Think in terms of making the necessary adjustments to the law so that the cruises from North America are not adversely affected by this steamship period law.      


    The need to change is there and its just a matter of time before the market gets what it wants.





    Exactly.  The law can be changed and it would infinitely help the cruise lines.  Imagine a 2 week cruise leaving Seattle, going to Alaska then to Hawaii and then back to Seattle with no stops in Canada.  Zero need for a passport (though to fly you'd need it).  That would affect Canada negatively, but there could be many cruises leaving from the west coast going back and forth to Hawaii with no foreign ports needed.

  14. 3 hours ago, Ken the cruiser said:

    My curiosity is when are the pharmacies going to be allowed to play a more active roll, as shot giving is one of their day-to-day business practices? I've been hearing Wal-Mart, Walgreens, Publix (in 3 states) and CVS as well as a few other locally based pharmacies are ready. Is it up to the state to include them in the their distribution process or does each company negotiate with the feds/pharmaceutical companies to get on their distribution list? I've got the feeling it's a whole different process when it comes to getting the annual flu shots distributed to your local pharmacy?


    In the Chicago area you can add in the grocery stores of Mariano's and Jewel/Osco (Osco is the "drug store/pharmacy" part of the store).  To date, however, if you don't already have one there's no way anyone new is getting an appointment.  Everything is booked solid.

  15. 20 hours ago, Wine-O said:

    If it's the Pfizer vaccine, how are they going to keep it at -70 degrees?  I just got my first Pfizer injection last week.  The nurse giving it reached back behind her and picked one of the 5-6 syringes laying there to inject me.  🍷 

     The shingles vaccine is kept at -50° and it's never been a problem.  So what's the issue...?

  16. 18 hours ago, Ken the cruiser said:

    More Than 26 Million Shots Given: Covid-19 Vaccine Tracker (bloomberg.com)


    Don't get me wrong, I truly appreciate all that everyone has done up to this point. However, it's time to get the show on the road, especially when folks are saying there is plenty of vaccine in the supply chain out there. In my state's case, we have been allotted 283,000+ doses and have only given 57,000+ shots up to this point since Dec 14th.


    I just want to focus on the part I bolded.


    I understand the frustration, but there's only so many medical professionals available to give the shots.  I know there was a call for retired nurses, doctors, etc., to assist in Illinois in order to alleviate the demand.  IMO, they need to pull out some medical students, those who are capable and can safely give shots of course, in order to help.


    This is a state-level failure which compounds the federal-level failure.  Right now, my wife and I are looking at the end of March, it we're lucky, before we can think about getting our shots.  We're both in phase 1C.  Early on the guess, according to state officials, was February. At this rate, I'm thinking end of April.  Fingers crossed.


    Edit to add:


    I can't quote your comment concerning the vaccine rollout (comment above this one), but this is good news! That means my wife can get her shot.  Fingers are still crossed!

  17. On 1/2/2021 at 6:27 PM, Lastdance said:

    I have Galapagos booked for the end of June, with 11 nights on Flora.  Right now I give it a 50/50 chance.  However, I will cancel it before the 90 days and be a little upset, but understanding that I have no control over what is happening.  My vaccine should be this month because I am an essential worker, but I would not wager a bet on it.  Next cruises are in October, b2b/TA to FLL. Then, April 17, TP from Sydney etc and I feel pretty confident about that one, along with those that follow.  Furthermore,  I would also like them to extend final payment dates, but understand that is not a possibility at this point in time.





    I think, under the circumstances, all cruise lines should allow people to cancel 30 days out and get back 100%.  At least until things are back to semi-normal.

  18. Getting back to the question of the thread:  Will vaccines now be required?


    Here's what Dr. Fauci says about it:




    So take that for what it's worth. He also says it's, and I quote, "unlikely to be required from a federal-government perspective".  But if he thinks it's possible to be required for travelling, we better get prepared for it to happen. 

  19. IMO, a lot is determined by how the vaccinations are going by, say, the end of March.  If they feel they can get enough people vaccinated by the time cruising season is set to open for Alaska, then I can see a nearly full season.  Pure guess, but I'd say it'll start in June.  Granted, this is me being extremely hopeful, but it's just how I am seeing it.  Fingers crossed!

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